Re: More about Facebook Linked Data

2011-10-26 Thread adasal
OF FB LINKED DATA These are just some of the features of the Facebook Graph API Linked Data. I have been told that Facebook Linked Data is considered experimental and that continued support depends on the degree of use by developers. I hope this was helpful, and I am happy to attempt

Re: More about Facebook Linked Data

2011-10-26 Thread Gannon Dick
...@gmail.comith regards To: Gannon Dick gannon_d...@yahoo.com Cc: Juan Sequeda juanfeder...@gmail.com; semantic-...@w3.org Web semantic-...@w3.org; public-lod@w3.org public-lod@w3.org Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 7:41 AM Subject: Re: More about Facebook Linked Data The only question is what part

Re: More about Facebook Linked Data

2011-10-14 Thread Gannon Dick
Weaver weav...@rpi.edu Cc: semantic-...@w3.org Web semantic-...@w3.org; public-lod@w3.org Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:24 PM Subject: Re: More about Facebook Linked Data Really cool Jesse! Now imagine linking this data to the ISWC 2011 metadata for the Linked Data-a-thon :) http://iswc2011

Re: More about Facebook Linked Data

2011-10-12 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 10/11/11 5:35 PM, Jesse Weaver wrote: STATUS OF FB LINKED DATA These are just some of the features of the Facebook Graph API Linked Data. I have been told that Facebook Linked Data is considered experimental and that continued support depends on the degree of use by developers. I

More about Facebook Linked Data

2011-10-11 Thread Jesse Weaver
understand that the Graph API and the Open Graph are NOT the same thing. STATUS OF FB LINKED DATA These are just some of the features of the Facebook Graph API Linked Data. I have been told that Facebook Linked Data is considered experimental and that continued support depends

Re: More about Facebook Linked Data

2011-10-11 Thread Juan Sequeda
are NOT the same thing. STATUS OF FB LINKED DATA These are just some of the features of the Facebook Graph API Linked Data. I have been told that Facebook Linked Data is considered experimental and that continued support depends on the degree of use by developers. I hope this was helpful, and I

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-10-03 Thread Sebastian Schaffert
Dear Norman, Sorry for replying late, I was a bit busy with other things ... Am 28.09.2011 um 19:13 schrieb Norman Gray: Sebastian, hello. On 27 Sep 2011, at 13:43, Sebastian Schaffert wrote: I think you're disappointed because your expectations may be wrong. My expectations are my

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-28 Thread Toby Inkster
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:04:13 -0400 Tim rdf tim...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for pointing out that it might be a foaf:Account and not foaf:Person. I need to dig into their semantics before I run around misusing them! You could even do: http://purl.org/twc/id/person/TimLebo

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-28 Thread Patrick Logan
Question: would be be reasonable to include more than one of those choices? On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Toby Inkster t...@g5n.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:04:13 -0400 Tim rdf tim...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for pointing out that it might be a foaf:Account and not foaf:Person. I

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-28 Thread Norman Gray
Sebastian, hello. On 27 Sep 2011, at 13:43, Sebastian Schaffert wrote: I think you're disappointed because your expectations may be wrong. My expectations are my expectations. But I accept that the world maybe does not satisfy them ;-) I often have the same feeling -- *sigh* -- I've come

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-27 Thread Sebastian Schaffert
Dear Patrick and all, Am 27.09.2011 um 00:47 schrieb Patrick Logan: The distinction is impractical, especially if you compare it with the simplicity of the alternative JSON-based Open Graph representation. That may be a matter of one's experience and what one wishes to do with the

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-27 Thread Henry Story
On 27 Sep 2011, at 09:01, Sebastian Schaffert wrote: - I ask for http://graph.facebook.com/sebastian.schaffert and I get http://graph.facebook.com/561666514# - I ask for http://graph.facebook.com/561666514 and I get http://graph.facebook.com/561666514# - I ask for

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-27 Thread Fumihiro Kato
Hi, My curl command works fine with the hash URI. It may be a version issue. % curl -V curl 7.21.6 (x86_64-apple-darwin10.7.0) libcurl/7.21.6 OpenSSL/1.0.0d zlib/1.2.5 libidn/1.22 Protocols: dict file ftp ftps gopher http https imap imaps pop3 pop3s rtsp smtp smtps telnet tftp Features: IDN IPv6

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-27 Thread Fumihiro Kato
According to the changelog, this issue has been fixed in 7.20.0. http://curl.haxx.se/changes.html#7_20_0 - fragment part of URLs are no longer sent to the server Fumi On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Fumihiro Kato f...@fumi.me wrote: Hi, My curl command works fine with the hash URI. It may

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-27 Thread Norman Gray
On 27 Sep 2011, at 08:44, Norman Gray wrote: Because the browser (according to the standard) removes the trailing #. But if you send a GET request manually (telnet etc) and including the # you will get a 404. Well, what did you expect? As you say, the client is supposed to remove the

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-27 Thread Sebastian Schaffert
Am 27.09.2011 um 09:44 schrieb Norman Gray: I am disappointed because I asked for data about http://graph.facebook.com/561666514 and got back data about http://graph.facebook.com/561666514# - this is my main concern. Maybe I should ask for http://graph.facebook.com/561666514# in the

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-27 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 9/27/11 7:43 AM, Sebastian Schaffert wrote: Am 27.09.2011 um 09:44 schrieb Norman Gray: I am disappointed because I asked for data about http://graph.facebook.com/561666514 and got back data about http://graph.facebook.com/561666514# - this is my main concern. Maybe I should ask for

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-27 Thread Patrick Logan
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Sebastian Schaffert sebastian.schaff...@salzburgresearch.at wrote: Ok, let me be a bit more precise: I can stick with REST, JSON, and human readable service descriptions for each service that define for me how to call the REST webservice and how the JSON (or

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-27 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:11:29 -0400 Tim rdf tim...@gmail.com wrote: http://purl.org/twc/id/person/TimLebo a foaf:Person; owl:sameAs http://graph.facebook.com/24407945# Personally, I'd say: http://purl.org/twc/id/person/TimLebo a foaf:Person ; foaf:account

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-27 Thread Tim rdf
Toby, Thanks for pointing out that it might be a foaf:Account and not foaf:Person. I need to dig into their semantics before I run around misusing them! Regards, Tim Lebo On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Toby Inkster t...@g5n.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:11:29 -0400 Tim rdf

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-27 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 9/27/11 2:53 PM, Toby Inkster wrote: On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:11:29 -0400 Tim rdftim...@gmail.com wrote: http://purl.org/twc/id/person/TimLebo a foaf:Person; owl:sameAs http://graph.facebook.com/24407945# Personally, I'd say: http://purl.org/twc/id/person/TimLebo

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-27 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 9/27/11 3:04 PM, Tim rdf wrote: Toby, Thanks for pointing out that it might be a foaf:Account and not foaf:Person. I need to dig into their semantics before I run around misusing them! But you can make a linked data graph based on your own world view and its associated semantics, as per

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-26 Thread Sebastian Schaffert
Dear Jesse, Thanks for the effort! I am just experimenting with this. If I request my own Vanity URL http://graph.facebook.com/sebastian.schaffert The data I get back is: @prefix rdf: http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-df-syntax-ns# . @prefix rdfs: http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema# . @prefix

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-26 Thread Alvaro Graves
Hi Sebastian, AFAIK it's not a bug, but a feature :). This is done to comply with the httpRange-14 issue (i.e., you can't retrieve a person through HTTP but you can retrieve a document _about_ a person through HTTP). Since a person and a document about a person are different entities, they should

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-26 Thread Sebastian Schaffert
But then I would say the server should at least reply with a 30x redirect ;-) Greetings, Sebastian Am 26.09.2011 um 17:05 schrieb Alvaro Graves: Hi Sebastian, AFAIK it's not a bug, but a feature :). This is done to comply with the httpRange-14 issue (i.e., you can't retrieve a person

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-26 Thread Barry Norton
Great if an HTTP request for /561666514# 303ed to this document, but /561666514# is not a URI Barry On 26.09.2011 16:05, Alvaro Graves wrote: Hi Sebastian, AFAIK it's not a bug, but a feature :). This is done to comply with the httpRange-14 issue (i.e., you can't retrieve a person

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-26 Thread Alvaro Graves
No, because you are requesting a document Alvaro Graves No, because you are requesting a _document_ (in my case http://graph.facebook.com/672247057) which describes a person ( http://graph.facebook.com/672247057#). When I request a document (and it exists) the expected HTTP code should be

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 9/26/11 11:05 AM, Alvaro Graves wrote: Hi Sebastian, AFAIK it's not a bug, but a feature :). This is done to comply with the httpRange-14 issue (i.e., you can't retrieve a person through HTTP but you can retrieve a document _about_ a person through HTTP). Since a person and a document

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 9/26/11 11:16 AM, Sebastian Schaffert wrote: But then I would say the server should at least reply with a 30x redirect ;-) Not necessarily, they choosen to implement indirection internally, rather than via HTTP response headers. Naturally, doing via HTTP is more flexible and thereby

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 9/26/11 11:24 AM, Alvaro Graves wrote: No, because you are requesting a document Alvaro Graves No, because you are requesting a _document_ (in my case http://graph.facebook.com/672247057) which describes a person (http://graph.facebook.com/672247057#). When I request a document (and

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-26 Thread Alvaro Graves
We don't have to bring httpRange-14 and its timeless imbroglio into every conversation re. Linked Data :-) True :) the only important thing is to make clear that facebook URIs for documents are different from URIs for people. Alvaro Graves On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Kingsley

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 9/26/11 11:37 AM, Alvaro Graves wrote: We don't have to bring httpRange-14 and its timeless imbroglio into every conversation re. Linked Data :-) True :) the only important thing is to make clear that facebook URIs for documents are different from URIs for people. I prefer to

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-26 Thread Jesse Weaver
Hi Sebastian. Please see in-line comments below. On Sep 26, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Sebastian Schaffert wrote: Dear Jesse, Thanks for the effort! I am just experimenting with this. If I request my own Vanity URL http://graph.facebook.com/sebastian.schaffert The data I get back is: @prefix

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-26 Thread Jesse Weaver
Hi Sebastian. See http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-vocab-pub/#recipe1 for how hash URIs are handled. Jesse Weaver Ph.D. Student, Patroon Fellow Tetherless World Constellation Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~weavej3/index.xhtml On Sep 26, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Sebastian

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-26 Thread Sebastian Schaffert
Dear all, the point here is that this philosophical discussion is exactly the reason why Semantic Web/Linked Data is not really popular amongst developers. I am involved in the Semantic Web Community since 2001 and even I find it complex and impractical when it comes to really realising

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-26 Thread Sebastian Schaffert
Dear Jesse, I know how they are handled. I just claim that this way of returning data is a bit impractical ;-) Greetings, Sebastian Am 26.09.2011 um 20:02 schrieb Jesse Weaver: Hi Sebastian. See http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-vocab-pub/#recipe1 for how hash URIs are handled. Jesse

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-26 Thread Patrick Logan
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Sebastian Schaffert sebastian.schaff...@salzburgresearch.at wrote: the point here is that this philosophical discussion... I did not see anything philosophical in the discussion. I am confused by that statement. When I request a Linked Data resource, I expect

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-26 Thread Sebastian Schaffert
Am 26.09.2011 um 23:37 schrieb Patrick Logan: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Sebastian Schaffert sebastian.schaff...@salzburgresearch.at wrote: the point here is that this philosophical discussion... I did not see anything philosophical in the discussion. I am confused by that

Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-23 Thread Jesse Weaver
APOLOGIES FOR CROSS-POSTING I would like to bring to subscribers' attention that Facebook now supports RDF with Linked Data URIs from its Graph API. The RDF is in Turtle syntax, and all of the HTTP(S) URIs in the RDF are dereferenceable in accordance with httpRange-14. Please take some time to

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-23 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 23 September 2011 14:09, Jesse Weaver weav...@rpi.edu wrote: APOLOGIES FOR CROSS-POSTING I would like to bring to subscribers' attention that Facebook now supports RDF with Linked Data URIs from its Graph API.  The RDF is in Turtle syntax, and all of the HTTP(S) URIs in the RDF are

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-23 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 9/23/11 8:09 AM, Jesse Weaver wrote: APOLOGIES FOR CROSS-POSTING I would like to bring to subscribers' attention that Facebook now supports RDF with Linked Data URIs from its Graph API. The RDF is in Turtle syntax, and all of the HTTP(S) URIs in the RDF are dereferenceable in accordance

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-23 Thread Tim rdf
Jesse, Which URI should I put in my foaf file [1][2]? http://purl.org/twc/id/person/TimLebo a foaf:Person; owl:sameAs http://graph.facebook.com/24407945#, # - Facebook's URI for me! http://graph.facebook.com/24407945; # - Or should I omit the hash?

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-23 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 9/23/11 10:11 AM, Tim rdf wrote: Jesse, Which URI should I put in my foaf file [1][2]? http://purl.org/twc/id/person/TimLebo a foaf:Person; owl:sameAs http://graph.facebook.com/24407945#, #- Facebook's URI for me!

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-23 Thread Richard Cyganiak
On 23 Sep 2011, at 15:11, Tim rdf wrote: Why does http://graph.facebook.com/24407945# not resolve to anything, bash-3.2$ curl -H 'Accept: text/turtle' http://graph.facebook.com/24407945# Hash URIs are resolved by stripping the hash off the URI first. The hash and anything behind it is never

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-23 Thread Tim rdf
Thanks, Kingsley. But I'm still at a loss for having my facebook URI being part of Linked Data... (see within) On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 9/23/11 10:11 AM, Tim rdf wrote: Which URI should I put in my foaf file [1][2]?

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-23 Thread Tim rdf
Thanks Richard! On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Richard Cyganiak rich...@cyganiak.de wrote: On 23 Sep 2011, at 15:11, Tim rdf wrote: Why does http://graph.facebook.com/24407945# not resolve to anything, bash-3.2$ curl -H 'Accept: text/turtle' http://graph.facebook.com/24407945# Hash URIs

RE: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-23 Thread Søren Roug
Weaver || Sent: 23 September 2011 14:10 || To: semantic-...@w3.org; public-lod@w3.org || Subject: Facebook Linked Data || || APOLOGIES FOR CROSS-POSTING || || I would like to bring to subscribers' attention that Facebook now || supports RDF with Linked Data URIs from its Graph API. The RDF

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-23 Thread Jesse Weaver
] On || Behalf Of Jesse Weaver || Sent: 23 September 2011 14:10 || To: semantic-...@w3.org; public-lod@w3.org || Subject: Facebook Linked Data || || APOLOGIES FOR CROSS-POSTING || || I would like to bring to subscribers' attention that Facebook now || supports RDF with Linked Data URIs from its

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-23 Thread Bob Ferris
-requ...@w3.org] On || Behalf Of Jesse Weaver || Sent: 23 September 2011 14:10 || To: semantic-...@w3.org; public-lod@w3.org || Subject: Facebook Linked Data || || APOLOGIES FOR CROSS-POSTING || || I would like to bring to subscribers' attention that Facebook now || supports RDF with Linked Data URIs

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-23 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 9/23/11 11:00 AM, Tim rdf wrote: Thanks, Kingsley. But I'm still at a loss for having my facebook URI being part of Linked Data... I am writing a long post for G+ that explains how Facebook as just added a major salvo to Linked Data bootstrap, at InterWeb scale. Give me = 30 mins :-) --

Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-23 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 9/23/11 2:48 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 9/23/11 11:00 AM, Tim rdf wrote: Thanks, Kingsley. But I'm still at a loss for having my facebook URI being part of Linked Data... I am writing a long post for G+ that explains how Facebook as just added a major salvo to Linked Data bootstrap, at

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-23 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 9/23/11 3:51 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 9/23/11 2:48 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 9/23/11 11:00 AM, Tim rdf wrote: Thanks, Kingsley. But I'm still at a loss for having my facebook URI being part of Linked Data... I am writing a long post for G+ that explains how Facebook as just

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-23 Thread Jesse Weaver
|| To: semantic-...@w3.org; public-lod@w3.org || Subject: Facebook Linked Data || || APOLOGIES FOR CROSS-POSTING || || I would like to bring to subscribers' attention that Facebook now || supports RDF with Linked Data URIs from its Graph API. The RDF is in || Turtle syntax, and all

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-23 Thread Jesse Weaver
|| To: semantic-...@w3.org; public-lod@w3.org || Subject: Facebook Linked Data || || APOLOGIES FOR CROSS-POSTING || || I would like to bring to subscribers' attention that Facebook now || supports RDF with Linked Data URIs from its Graph API. �The RDF is in || Turtle syntax, and all of the HTTP(S