Re: I read a challenge. was, Re: [gofriends] GO ontology in OWL format

2007-09-14 Thread Chris Mungall
On Sep 14, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: Seen on the gofriends list: On Sep 12, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Chris Mungall wrote: Let me also give you some information on the results of our experiments using OWL and Sesame, as part of a different project outside GO. Triplestores such as

RE: I read a challenge. was, Re: [gofriends] GO ontology in OWL format

2007-09-14 Thread Booth, David (HP Software - Boston)
FYI, this paper and talk from Jim Melton of Oracle may be of interest: http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/paper/119 http://www.w3.org/2006/Talks/0301-melton-query-langs.pdf In the paper he mentions: [[ SPARQL syntax makes virtually all join operations implicit, while SQL syntax usually makes th

Re: [BIONT-DSE] Inclusion versus exclusion criteria

2007-09-14 Thread Bijan Parsia
On 14 Sep 2007, at 14:12, Chimezie Ogbuji wrote: [snip] But I don't know of a way (at least a standard way) to go from first order horn (without function symbols) to Datalog under LP semantics for beyond ground entailments. My intuition sez it'd be pretty bad. I would agree about this being p

Re: [BIONT-DSE] Inclusion versus exclusion criteria

2007-09-14 Thread Chimezie Ogbuji
On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 21:54 +0100, Bijan Parsia wrote: > Yes. It's not a mapping from DL to LP. But from DL to Horn Logic. (restricted) DL -> definite Horn -> definite Logic Programming (ground, fact-forming entailments only) > > It is defined as a function whose input are DL expressions > > (an

Re: I read a challenge. was, Re: [gofriends] GO ontology in OWL format

2007-09-14 Thread Chimezie Ogbuji
On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 05:04 -0400, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: > > In my opinion SQL (with entailments pre-computed) still turns out > > to be a far superior choice to existing semantic web technology - > > I'd be interested to see the SPARQL equivalents of the following > > queries: > > http://w

Re: I read a challenge. was, Re: [gofriends] GO ontology in OWL format

2007-09-14 Thread Bijan Parsia
On 14 Sep 2007, at 10:04, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: Seen on the gofriends list: On Sep 12, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Chris Mungall wrote: Let me also give you some information on the results of our experiments using OWL and Sesame, as part of a different project outside GO. Triplestores such as Sesa

Re: I read a challenge. was, Re: [gofriends] GO ontology in OWL format

2007-09-14 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
On Sep 14, 2007, at 5:04 AM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: Get it as RDF Swine mail application. Get it as RDF => http://tinyurl.com/3yyepz -Alan

I read a challenge. was, Re: [gofriends] GO ontology in OWL format

2007-09-14 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
Seen on the gofriends list: On Sep 12, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Chris Mungall wrote: Let me also give you some information on the results of our experiments using OWL and Sesame, as part of a different project outside GO. Triplestores such as Sesame seem to work best when you are storing instanc

Re: [hcls] User interfaces for writing / querying RDF: Leeet

2007-09-14 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
Maybe. You could use the examples on the macros page I pointed to to test your theory. -Alan On Sep 14, 2007, at 3:31 AM, Matthias Samwald wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 23:53 -0400, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: http://code.google.com/p/owl1-1/wiki/MacrosAndSyntax In other words, instead of comin

Re: [hcls] User interfaces for writing / querying RDF: Leeet

2007-09-14 Thread Matthias Samwald
On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 23:53 -0400, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: > http://code.google.com/p/owl1-1/wiki/MacrosAndSyntax > > In other words, instead of coming up with a single way of saying some > subset of OWL DL in simpler triples, define a language for creating > such mappings. If the main motiva