Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-06-28 Thread Renato Iannella
> On 28 Jun 2016, at 04:42, David Booth wrote: > > Correct. Again: what harm do you think is caused by that? People’s Privacy is harmed. Quite a big issue in some countries ;-) > Giving people a vocabulary for publishing eHealth records is *not* the same > as publishing those records. It si

Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-06-28 Thread Renato Iannella
> On 29 Jun 2016, at 08:12, David Booth wrote: > I took an action to see if there we could arrange a special teleconference to > better accommodate your timezone. Some proposed times: > 6pm Eastern US > 7am Eastern US > 8am Eastern US > Others on the call indicated willingness to accommodate

Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-06-28 Thread David Booth
Hi Renato, We had some very good discussion on today's call on the background and uses cases that motivated the idea of putting the FHIR vocabulary on schema.org: https://www.w3.org/2016/06/28-hcls-minutes.html#item05 But we were very much wishing that you could have been on the call also, to

RE: FHIR on schema.org

2016-06-27 Thread Michael Miller
ortantly, with-in a collaboration, health data can be published privately. cheers, michael > -Original Message- > From: David Booth [mailto:da...@dbooth.org] > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 11:43 AM > To: Renato Iannella > Cc: i...@lists.hl7.org; w3c semweb HCLS > Subje

Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-06-27 Thread David Booth
Renato requested through private email that I respond to this message on these lists, so . . . On 06/02/2016 11:52 PM, Renato Iannella wrote: On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:55, David Booth wrote: To my mind, the publication of a *vocabulary* is completely different from the publication of data that i

Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-06-02 Thread Renato Iannella
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:55, David Booth wrote: > > To my mind, the publication of a *vocabulary* is completely different from > the publication of data that is expressed using that vocabulary. I am not > understanding why you are concerned about the publication of a *vocabulary*. > What harm d

Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-06-01 Thread David Booth
Hi Renato, On 05/30/2016 01:43 AM, Renato Iannella wrote: On 28 May 2016, at 00:56, David Booth wrote: It seems to me that privacy needs to be addressed at the level of protocols and policies. What are you suggesting relevant to vocabularies, such as schema.org? I am raising the concern t

Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-05-29 Thread Renato Iannella
> On 28 May 2016, at 00:56, David Booth wrote: > > It seems to me that privacy needs to be addressed at the level of protocols > and policies. What are you suggesting relevant to vocabularies, such as > schema.org? I am raising the concern that the FHIR vocabulary includes personal/private

Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-05-29 Thread Renato Iannella
> On 27 May 2016, at 17:31, Marc Twagirumukiza > wrote: > > Some of your thoughts need a deep discussions. Can you attend one of ScheMed > or FHIR RDF group meetings and raise such points? This will allow to > associate other's views as well. Timezones are usually the problem. Great if you

Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-05-27 Thread Grahame Grieve
> > > It seems to me that privacy needs to be addressed at the level of > protocols and policies. What are you suggesting relevant to > vocabularies, such as schema.org? > well, the vocabularies often need to support this. The most relevant thing is to tag the information with consent to share in

Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-05-27 Thread David Booth
On 05/27/2016 03:10 AM, Renato Iannella wrote: On 27 May 2016, at 11:09, David Booth wrote: I think it is important to distinguish two separate and orthogonal concerns: >> 1. What data should be shared or exchanged? >> 2. What does the data mean? >> Security and privacy are all about #1 --

Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-05-27 Thread Marc Twagirumukiza
Physician+ https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/1114 etc.. Kind Regards, Marc Twagirumukiza From: Renato Iannella To: "i...@lists.hl7.org" , w3c semweb HCLS Date: 27/05/2016 09:13 Subject: Re: FHIR on schema.org > On 27 May 2016, at 11:09, David Booth w

Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-05-27 Thread Renato Iannella
> On 27 May 2016, at 11:09, David Booth wrote: > I think it is important to distinguish two separate and orthogonal concerns: > 1. What data should be shared or exchanged? > 2. What does the data mean? > Security and privacy are all about #1 -- not #2. > Schema.org and healthcare vocabularies

Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-05-26 Thread David Booth
On 05/26/2016 08:16 PM, Renato Iannella wrote: On 26 May 2016, at 17:42, Marc Twagirumukiza mailto:marc.twagirumuk...@agfa.com>> wrote: However it's the responsibility of every one to make its data public or not. This doesn't prevent us to provide a*way of expressing data*(for those who want t

Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-05-26 Thread Renato Iannella
> On 26 May 2016, at 17:42, Marc Twagirumukiza > wrote: > > However it's the responsibility of every one to make its data public or not. > This doesn't prevent us to provide a way of expressing data (for those who > want to do so) with FHIR standard using schema.org I t

Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-05-26 Thread Grahame Grieve
tion and PoC as you will see in > pointers from the minutes. > > Kind Regards, > > * Marc * > > > > From:Grahame Grieve > To:Marc Twagirumukiza/AXPZC/AGFA@AGFA > Cc: r...@iannel.la, "i...@lists.hl7.org" , w3c >

Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-05-26 Thread Marc Twagirumukiza
ot; , w3c semweb HCLS Date: 26/05/2016 10:16 Subject:Re: FHIR on schema.org Sent by:graha...@gmail.com people are already trying to use FHIR as a standard for sharing their healthcare data for research. While organizations can't share other people's data in public

Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-05-26 Thread Grahame Grieve
people are already trying to use FHIR as a standard for sharing their healthcare data for research. While organizations can't share other people's data in public, there's plenty of anecdotal evidence that the people will do it themselves. So the use case isn't impossible, it's only a policy questio

Re: FHIR on schema.org

2016-05-26 Thread Marc Twagirumukiza
Hi Renato, I quite understand your concern. We need to discuss deeply this esp. wrt the requirements of the W3C Privacy review (understand and implications) . However it's the responsibility of every one to make its data public or not. This doesn't prevent us to provide a way of expressing dat