Hi all,
I have not applied all suggestions sent my people on the list, but
wanted to give a short update. So, no RDF document pointing to all
molecules with non-trivial RDF statements, and no RDF-based
definitions of the properties used. Apologies for that.
On 8/2/07, Egon Willighagen <[EMAIL PR
Hi Eric,
On 8/21/07, Eric Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My question (without knowing the true scale of what you had) was simply to
> see if a mechanism existed that told me "which molecules at OpenMolecules
> are URI-resolvable as RDF?".
There is no such list yet, but will put creating on
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From: Egon Willighagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 8/21/2007 3:40 AM
To: Eric Neumann
Cc: public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
Subject: Re: RDF for molecules, using InChI
Eric,
On 8/18/07, Egon Willighagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/17/07, Eric Neumann <[EMAIL PR
Eric,
On 8/18/07, Egon Willighagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/17/07, Eric Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks for the pointer-- is there a list of all the molecules you store
> > something about?
>
> Not at this moment. That would be a rather lengthy RDF doc. The number
> of mol
Hi Eric,
On 8/17/07, Eric Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the pointer-- is there a list of all the molecules you store
> something about?
Not at this moment. That would be a rather lengthy RDF doc. The number
of molecules of which something is know is currently in the order of
1
15 AM
To: public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
Subject: Re: RDF for molecules, using InChI
Hi all,
On 8/2/07, Egon Willighagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1.http://cb.openmolecules.net/rdf/?InChI=1/CH4/h1H4
a quick update, rdf.openmolecules.net is now online, so the above URL
Hi all,
On 8/2/07, Egon Willighagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1.http://cb.openmolecules.net/rdf/?InChI=1/CH4/h1H4
a quick update, rdf.openmolecules.net is now online, so the above URL becomes:
http://rdf.openmolecules.net/?InChI=1/CH4/h1H4
Egon
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Alan Ruttenberg wrote:
I'm not a fan of frag ids because the establish anarchic behavior
seems impossible to change, and even with the use of it, at least
insofar as the practice of having a single document being returned for
multiple fragids and then having to fish out the relevant portion
g
Alan Ruttenberg wrote:
The W3C use of "representation" doesn't make sense to me. So it's hard
for me to get past a sentence that uses that concept.
I tend to think that:
Thing = what is referenced by a URI, let's labeled it like T(uri)
representation = what is returned when a URI is dereferenc
On Aug 7, 2007, at 7:29 AM, Xiaoshu Wang wrote:
Alan,
I'm still waiting for an example that *can't* be solved using a
HTTP scheme. Do you have any? So far the best I have is that LSIDS
point to two "forks", the data and the metadata (meaning of these
not clear, btw). However I've already
On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 14:59 -0400, Booth, David (HP Software - Boston)
> What has caused this thinking to shift more recently is the realization
> that: (1) HTTP URIs can be used as globally unambiguous names (or
> "identifiers") of things other than web pages (or "information
> resources"); and
> From: Chimezie Ogbuji
> [ . . . ]
> Well, it's one thing to be neutral wrt schemes and another to
> make a statement about the use of certain schemes (HTTP) as
> preferred for authors who are in the business of minting URIs.
> I'll just echo Michel's sentiments about not alienating
> communities
Chimezie Ogbuji wrote:
The HTTP scheme:
http_URL = "http:" "//" host [ ":" port ] [ abs_path [ "?" query ]]
Does not have any formal components for identify management (dates and
versions). A person (or group) who may not have control over webspace
but has a coherent theory they wish to expre
On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 17:20 -0400, Alan Ruttenberg wrote:
> Second, the view offered was my own and was perhaps too strongly
> stated. But I made it because I saw that recommendations were being
> made about decisions related to URIs and because I felt that given
> that we have an ongoing ac
Alan,
I'm still waiting for an example that *can't* be solved using a HTTP
scheme. Do you have any? So far the best I have is that LSIDS point to
two "forks", the data and the metadata (meaning of these not clear,
btw). However I've already given an existence proof, in the way of a
proposed i
Summary: Recapping some issues for Chimezie - may not be of interest
to those who have been following the discussion already.
Bottom line: If you are interested in URI issues, please talk to
Jonathan Rees who is responsible for editing the recommendations
documents that we (HCLS) have agre
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> Michel_Dumontier; Jonathan A Rees
> S
Chimezie Ogbuji wrote:
On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 01:25 -0400, Alan Ruttenberg wrote:
I don't think it is likely that the HCLS recommendations will suggest
using INFO uri's.
Is the 'recommendation' of a particular URI scheme over others on the
agenda? I would hope not. I've yet to under
On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 01:25 -0400, Alan Ruttenberg wrote:
> I don't think it is likely that the HCLS recommendations will suggest
> using INFO uri's.
Is the 'recommendation' of a particular URI scheme over others on the
agenda? I would hope not. I've yet to understand the motivation for
consi
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> From: Egon Willighagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 6:15 AM
> To: Michel_Dumontier
Hi Egon,
A minor point:
You've created URIs such as http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/#297 and
http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/#cid
Generally, it is considered better to mint URIs in a namespace you
control or with which you have an agreement. Have you worked with
Pubchem and do they sanc
> From: Michel_Dumontier
>
> I support the use of InChI as URI. Of course, the use of such
> a URI will annoy those that want URL resolvable URIs... another
> reason to relate the URI and the resolvable URL with an
> owl:sameAs predicate.
Can you clarify? I see that an HTTP GET on
http://cb.
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Subject: RE: RDF for molecules, using InChI
Certainly url-encoding solves this format problem, but it would indeed
be nice to eventually settle on a format not requiring encoding so that
its wysiwyg for the human...
-Eric
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From: Michel_Dumontier [mailto
Neumann; Michel_Dumontier; Egon Willighagen;
public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
Subject: RE: RDF for molecules, using InChI
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think InCHI is URI compliant [1]
(=, /) so we'll have to escape or use some encoding scheme.
-=Michel=-
[1] http://www.i
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 4:08 PM
To: Michel_Dumontier; Egon Willighagen; public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
Subject: RE: RDF for molecules, using InChI
Michel,
For clarity sake, can you give an example of your InChi URI ? urn??
Eric
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From: Michel_Dumontier
Michel,
For clarity sake, can you give an example of your InChi URI ? urn??
Eric
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From: Michel_Dumontier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 8/2/2007 3:59 PM
To: Eric Neumann; Egon Willighagen; public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
Subject: RE: RDF for molecules, using InChI
; public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
Subject: RE: RDF for molecules, using InChI
Egon,
I commend you on two fronts: 1) developing a chem data model that
utilizes InChi as part of the URI, and 2) demonstrating how something as
simle as an XSLT can be used to organize viewable html ( I also see your
O
Egon,
I commend you on two fronts: 1) developing a chem data model that utilizes
InChi as part of the URI, and 2) demonstrating how something as simle as an
XSLT can be used to organize viewable html ( I also see your OpenMolecules page
supports the use of RDFa-- great job!).
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