RE: Access to localhost to be outlawed?

2015-03-17 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
I agree. Using the browser to access local-exposed HTTP resources is an important way to bridge the native/mobile gap. User permission (pre-arranged, persistent, or session-based) can be explicitly required if needed, but blanket prohibition on intra-device communication via HTTP is too blunt-fo

RE: [Push] one or many

2014-10-09 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
This is one of those semantics rabbit-holes that I request we avoid. The term webapp is well-known (>5m hits on google in the common forms “webapp” “web app”, etc). In comparison, “web page” is probably a more amorphous and anachronistic term and provides less valuable context for the user/devel

RE: [Webpush] IETF proposes new "Web-Based Push Notifications" Working Group

2014-09-26 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
I agree. I'll help get this out the door asap, likely next week. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan | Service Standards | AT&T -Original Message- From: Arthur Barstow [mailto:art.bars...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 5:44 AM To: Michael van Ouwerkerk; Bryan Sullivan; EDUARDO FULLEA CAR

[April2014Meeting] New PushAPI ED uploaded

2014-04-09 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Hi all, I have updated the PushAPI ED for a variety of recent discussions including many of the TAG review comments. The new ED is at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/push/raw-file/tip/index.html. This ED will be the basis for discussions at the F2F, which I will be dialing into. Here is a summary of th

RE: [April2014Meeting] Seeking status and plans from Editors not attending meeting; deadline April 9

2014-04-02 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
I will attend the meeting remotely. I assume there will be remote participation support. Re the Push API, we are working on an ED for TAG feedback and other input from browser vendors. An updated ED will be provided before the meeting. -Original Message- From: Arthur Barstow [mailto:art

Re: [push-api] Dependency on "System Messages"

2014-03-13 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
One of the other changes in progress is to include service workers on the design of the API. I don't know if that replaces system messages in total but the necessary changes will be considered when a new draft is submitted. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:40 PM, "Arthur Barstow"

Re: [push] Consider renaming "push notification" to "push message" in the Push API spec

2014-03-13 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Sure, but this is only a reflection of the semantic space of the English language. Many things can be source of confusion. Understanding context is the responsibility of the reader. We will do what we can to provide clarifying guidance on the use of terms, but "Push Message" is a well-establishe

Re: [push] Consider renaming "push notification" to "push message" in the Push API spec

2014-03-13 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Sure, we will look out for additional potentially confusing term overlap as suggested. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan On Mar 11, 2014, at 12:38 PM, "Michael van Ouwerkerk" mailto:mvanouwerk...@google.com>> wrote: I think that's a great suggestion Jeffrey. Specifically, I would like to avoid confusing

Re: [push] Consider renaming "push notification" to "push message" in the Push API spec

2014-03-13 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
I agree, Push Message is the term that is used in other standards e.g. OMA Push. The use of the term notification was a reflection of the current simplified API design which provides only a trigger to the application, as a "notification" that some data is available at the server. As we consider

RE: [push-api] No clear mention of privacy implication of sending data through push service

2014-02-17 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Thanks for the comments, Tobie. I will provide an update draft proposal soon to address them. Note also that I'm preparing a proposal to actually include a message body, and other enhancements to the current API to broaden support among browsers. I should have a draft for review in the next coup

[PUSH API] Request for CFC on publication of new WD

2013-07-11 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Hi Webapps, Eduardo and I have uploaded a new ED of the Push API at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/push/raw-file/tip/index.html. This incorporates a variety of changes based upon comments received since the last ED. See https://github.com/telefonicaid/WebAPISpecs/commits/develop/Push for details on th

RE: Files on IndexedDB

2013-06-11 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Update: my comments were referring to the File API, not the IndexedDB API - I mistook the context of this thread (somehow) to be about the File API... nevermind! -Original Message- From: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:18 AM To: Jonas Sicking; Arthur Barstow Cc

RE: Files on IndexedDB

2013-06-11 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Comments below. -Original Message- From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:jo...@sicking.cc] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 8:56 AM To: Arthur Barstow Cc: pira...@gmail.com; Webapps WG Subject: Re: Files on IndexedDB Hi Art, Actually, the response in [2] says that we should clarify in the spec that

RE: [PUSH API] Scope of the specification

2013-06-03 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Thanks for starting this thread, Arnaud. I have some responses below, and look forward to discussions on these topics. Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: arnaud.br...@orange.com [mailto:arnaud.br...@orange.com] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 9:05 AM To: public-webapps@w3.org Subject:

RE: Filesystem events

2013-05-29 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
-Original Message- From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:jo...@sicking.cc] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 3:44 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L Cc: Charles Pritchard; pira...@gmail.com; public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: Filesystem events On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:34 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote

RE: Filesystem events

2013-05-29 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
-Original Message- From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:jo...@sicking.cc] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 3:25 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L Cc: Charles Pritchard; pira...@gmail.com; public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: Filesystem events On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:17 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote: > F

RE: Filesystem events

2013-05-29 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
From: Charles Pritchard [mailto:ch...@jumis.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 3:08 PM To: pira...@gmail.com Cc: public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: Filesystem events We didn't come to much of a resolution. It was suggested that the current behavior in browsers was incorrect; that the File should

RE: CfC - working on manifest

2013-05-14 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Thanks for the clarifications - we support it. And I will try to do less multitasking at F2F's! Thanks, Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: Charles McCathie Nevile [mailto:cha...@yandex-team.ru] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:47 AM To: public-webapps WG; SULLIVAN, BRYAN L Su

RE: CfC - working on manifest

2013-05-14 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Chaals, Overall, I think we support this proposal but have some questions I would like to get clarifications on: Maybe I don't recall but is SysApps asking Webapps to take the manifest aspect? Or is this something Webapps thinks is its right because of the prior focus on Widgets packaging? I d

RE: [IndexedDB] How to recover data from IndexedDB if the origin domain don't exist anymore?

2013-01-09 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Perhaps this problem indicates a real limitation in the same-origin policy as root for browser data. In a somewhat related point at TPAC for example I pointed out that the value of using IndexedDB for media storage - e.g. GBs of music or videos - will be severely limited if I can't switch my web

RE: FileSystem compromise spec

2012-11-30 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
> -Original Message- > From: Arthur Barstow [mailto:art.bars...@nokia.com] > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 6:46 AM > To: ext Eric U; Doug Schepers > Cc: Web Applications Working Group WG > Subject: Re: FileSystem compromise spec > > On 11/15/12 7:39 PM, ext Eric U wrote: > > As discussed

RE: CfC: publish FPWD of Push API; deadline October 12

2012-10-15 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
; To: public-weba...@w3c.org; SULLIVAN, BRYAN L; EDUARDO FULLEA CARRERA > Subject: Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Push API; deadline October 12 > > On 10/5/12 7:38 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: > > The Push API Editors would like to publish a First Public Working > > Draft of their spec

RE: Moving File API: Directories and System API to Note track?

2012-10-04 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
> -Original Message- > From: Olli Pettay [mailto:olli.pet...@helsinki.fi] > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 3:48 AM > To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L > Cc: Maciej Stachowiak; Glenn Maynard; Eric U; public-webapps@w3.org > Subject: Re: Moving File API: Directories and System

RE: [push-api] Moving Push API to FPWD [Was: Re: [admin] Publishing specs before TPAC: CfC start deadline is Oct 15]

2012-09-26 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
t; Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:59 AM > To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L > Cc: public-weba...@w3c.org > Subject: [push-api] Moving Push API to FPWD [Was: Re: [admin] Publishing > specs before TPAC: CfC start deadline is Oct 15] > > On 9/26/12 1:49 PM, ext SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote:

RE: [admin] Publishing specs before TPAC: CfC start deadline is Oct 15

2012-09-26 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Hi Art, We've previously called for any comments to the current Push API draft [1], and would like to promote it to FPWD before TPAC. We haven't received any substantive comments as far as I know, which tells me that it could be in good shape for publication. With the addition of Telefonica (Ed

RE: Moving File API: Directories and System API to Note track?

2012-09-25 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
From: Maciej Stachowiak [mailto:m...@apple.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:59 PM To: Glenn Maynard Cc: Eric U; o...@pettay.fi; public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: Moving File API: Directories and System API to Note track? Hi Glenn, I read over your points. But I don't think they would ch

Re: Moving File API: Directories and System API to Note track?

2012-09-18 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
What are the other proposals that handle the same use cases? Thanks, Bryan Sullivan On Sep 18, 2012, at 6:07 PM, "Olli Pettay" wrote: Hi all, I think we should discuss about moving File API: Directories and System API from Recommendation track to Note. Mainly because the API hasn't been widel

Re: Moving File API: Directories and System API to Note track?

2012-09-18 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
For the use cases of media storage for offline use perhaps (an important use case), but there are broader use cases necessary for the growth of Webapps which need to manage their own arbitrary storage resources outside the browser-managed space. Until this is supported, the web will remain a thi

Re: Push API draft update

2012-08-27 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Hi Art, Can you update the Webapps Publication Status page to add Eduardo as co-editor of the Push API draft? We are looking forward to feedback on this update, with the goal of getting to FPWD by TPAC if possible. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan + From: EDUARDO FULLEA CARRERA Date: Wed, 22 Aug

RE: Push API draft uploaded

2012-06-06 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Comment inline. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: Tobie Langel [mailto:to...@fb.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 12:28 PM To: Mounir Lamouri; public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: Push API draft uploaded On 6/5/12 4:00 PM, "Mounir Lamouri" wrote: >On 05/31/2012 03:28 PM,

RE: [admin] Mail List Policy, Usage, Etiquette, etc. & Top-posting

2012-06-01 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Response inline. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: Tobie Langel [mailto:to...@fb.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:06 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L; ife...@google.com; Karl Dubost Cc: WebApps WG Subject: Re: [admin] Mail List Policy, Usage, Etiquette, etc. & Top-posting

RE: Push API draft uploaded

2012-06-01 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Responses inline. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: Tobie Langel [mailto:to...@fb.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:29 AM To: public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: Push API draft uploaded On 5/30/12 11:14 AM, "Mounir Lamouri" wrote: >>> * I guess the idea of |onmessage|

RE: Push API draft uploaded

2012-05-31 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Responses inline. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: Mounir Lamouri [mailto:mou...@lamouri.fr] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:15 AM To: public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: Push API draft uploaded On 05/29/2012 06:13 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote: >> * I wonder if

RE: [admin] Mail List Policy, Usage, Etiquette, etc. & Top-posting

2012-05-31 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Comment inline. From: Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) [mailto:ife...@google.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:42 AM To: Karl Dubost Cc: WebApps WG Subject: Re: [admin] Mail List Policy, Usage, Etiquette, etc. & Top-posting On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Karl Dubost wrote: Le 29 mai 2012 à 12:59, Ia

RE: Is Quota Management API ready for First Public Working Draft?

2012-05-31 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
I support the FPWD publication. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: Arthur Barstow [mailto:art.bars...@nokia.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:40 AM To: ext Kinuko Yasuda; WebApps WG Subject: Is Quota Management API ready for First Public Working Draft? Hi Kinuko, All - wh

RE: Push API draft uploaded

2012-05-29 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Responses inline. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: Mounir Lamouri [mailto:mou...@lamouri.fr] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 3:06 AM To: public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: Push API draft uploaded On 05/26/2012 05:06 AM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote: > * As far as I understand

RE: Push API draft uploaded

2012-05-29 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
04:00 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote: > [...] I am following the Mozilla lead on registering the intent to receive > messages, [...]. I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean the proposal on the wiki page is proposing to use intents? -- Mounir

RE: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-27 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
ent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 5:12 AM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L Cc: Anant Narayanan; public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs On 27/05/2012 12:36, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote: > Re "At install time or when I am brow

RE: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-27 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
rayanan Cc: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L; public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs On 26 May 2012, at 18:32, Anant Narayanan wrote: > On 05/25/2012 09:25 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote: >> >> >> On Friday, Ma

RE: Push API draft uploaded

2012-05-25 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Thanks for the comments. Some responses added as Thanks, Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: Mounir Lamouri [mailto:mou...@lamouri.fr] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 3:17 PM To: public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: Push API draft uploaded On 05/24/2012 09:14 AM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote

RE: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-25 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
il...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 12:59 PM To: Marcos Caceres Cc: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L; Anant Narayanan; public-webapps WG; public-webappst...@w3.org Subject: Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs On 25 May 2012, at 17:25, Marcos Cac

RE: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-25 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Marcos, Re "I thought we had stopped the whole designing for particular screen sizes, etc. a long time ago.", that may be the still-closely-held goal, but the reality is that designing for multiple screen sizes (and pixel densities) is still far from simple. Even with all the tools that have b

RE: Push API draft uploaded

2012-05-25 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
age is received, the user agent must deliver the message data via the onmessage handler, if possible. If delivery is not possible, the user agent may discard the message, or may queue it for later delivery." Thanks, Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: JOSE MANUEL CANTERA FONSECA [

Re: Push API draft uploaded

2012-05-24 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
rly not as simple as the Mozilla proposal). Service lifecycle management, of which registration is a facet, can hopefully be layered above the API for the most part. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan On May 24, 2012, at 9:33 AM, "Charles Pritchard" wrote: > On 5/24/2012 7:08 AM, SULLIVAN,

RE: Push API draft uploaded

2012-05-24 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
n't have a strong opinion either way. Latest version is at http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/push/raw-file/default/index.html Thanks, Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: Ms2ger [mailto:ms2...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:37 AM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L Cc: public-webapps Subjec

RE: Push API draft uploaded

2012-05-24 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Sorry, cut & paste error: the spec is at: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/push/raw-file/default/index.html Thanks, Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:02 AM To: 'Ms2ger' Cc: public-webapps Subject: RE: Push API draft uploaded

RE: Push API draft uploaded

2012-05-24 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
27;s a function I borrowed from EventSource. Latest version is at http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/push/raw-file/default/index.htm Thanks, Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: Ms2ger [mailto:ms2...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:33 AM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L Cc: public-webapps Subjec

Push API draft uploaded

2012-05-24 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Thanks to the inestimable help of the W3C staff I am now plugged into the mercurial mainline and have uploaded the first stab at the Push API http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/push/raw-file/default/index.html I incorporated Mozilla's client API ideas in https://wiki.mozilla.org/Services/Notifications/Push/A

Re: App Manifest & API Proposal

2012-05-13 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
hanks, Bryan Sullivan On May 13, 2012, at 7:04 PM, "Anant Narayanan" wrote: > Hi Sullivan, > > Thanks for your comments, some responses inline: > > On 5/13/2012 1:11 AM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote: >> 1) Re "version: A string that represents the version of t

RE: App Manifest & API Proposal

2012-05-13 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Hi Anant, Thanks for the proposal. It's good to see this moving forward, following the workshop we had last year after TPAC. Some initial comments: 1) Re "version: A string that represents the version of this manifest. The User-Agent does not interpret this value in any way and is opaque to e

RE: App Manifest & API Proposal

2012-05-13 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
At least in the widget model, the manifest (including feature elements) provides a means of disclosure to the user about the APIs that the app wants to access. Of course if one assumes that users are brainless click-happy automatons then such disclosures are useless, but at that end of the extre

Re: Offline Web Applications status

2012-05-04 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
I like the idea. This would be useful for various things, especially if we could integrate the discovery and selection of this feature (the local proxy Web service) through Web Intents. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan On May 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, "Tab Atkins Jr." wrote: > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:12 A

RE: [admin] A Method for Writing Testable Conformance Requirements

2012-05-03 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Marcos, I think it would be great to update the document. While in the Webapps F2F there were some good ideas also floated on supplemental metadata systems (e.g. as used in WHATWG for HTML5) that don't require editors to do anything, IMO we should also consider tooling that helps editors add in

ReSpec biblio

2012-05-02 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Hi Robin, I'm starting to edit the Push API spec per the Webapps meeting in progress: http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/May2012F2FMeeting ("Server-Sent Events "extended to work with other push notification schemes such as Push SMS""). Some questions on the ReSpec biblio: * Do you have

RE: publish LCWD of Server-sent Events; deadline April 23

2012-04-22 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
I support the LCWD publication. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: Arthur Barstow [mailto:art.bars...@nokia.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 4:44 AM To: public-webapps Subject: CfC: publish LCWD of Server-sent Events; deadline April 23 The Server-sent Events spec has thre

RE: publish Proposed Recommendation of Widget Interface; deadline April 26

2012-04-22 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Art, I support the publication as PR. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: Arthur Barstow [mailto:art.bars...@nokia.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 6:50 AM To: public-webapps Subject: CfC: publish Proposed Recommendation of Widget Interface; deadline April 26 Now that t

RE: publish Candidate Recommendation of Web Workers; deadline April 11

2012-04-04 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
I support the publication as a CR. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan From: Arthur Barstow [mailto:art.bars...@nokia.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 6:45 AM To: public-webapps Subject: CfC: publish Candidate Recommendation of Web Workers; deadline April 11 During the comment period for the March 13 LCW

RE: publish Candidate Recommendation of HTML5 Web Messaging; deadline April 11

2012-04-04 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
I support the publication as a CR. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan From: Arthur Barstow [mailto:art.bars...@nokia.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:07 AM To: public-webapps Subject: CfC: publish Candidate Recommendation of HTML5 Web Messaging; deadline April 11 During the comment period for the Mar

RE: Regarding app notification and wake up

2012-03-12 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
ackground I think we have a good foundation to resolve the questions you noted. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: Karl Dubost [mailto:ka...@opera.com] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 2:04 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L Cc: Ian Hickson; Stefan Hakansson LK; public-webapps@w3.org S

RE: Regarding app notification and wake up

2012-03-09 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
the Webapp *is* running, it's within the scope of what we have discussed earlier as SSE extensions (and not technically a "wakeup"). Thanks, Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: Ian Hickson [mailto:i...@hixie.ch] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 4:39 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L C

RE: Regarding app notification and wake up

2012-03-09 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Ian, Stefan may respond with more detail, but the use cases we submitted for WebRTC consideration describe this as the ability to invoke an application and pass an event to it, whether it is running (or not) at the time of the event reception by the device. By running I mean that the app, or it

RE: Regarding app notification and wake up

2012-03-09 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
What WebRTC needs is related to the use cases I submitted for the Webapps charter update, for a Push API (based upon the concept presented at TPAC). Without presuming any implementation details at this point (even whether EventSource as it stands will fulfill this), we need the ability of Webap

RE: ACTION-568: Create an alternative mechanism for openURL andsend it to the mail list (Web Applications Working Group)

2010-08-10 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
c...@opera.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:30 AM To: gaut...@opera.com; SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: Web Applications Working Group WG Subject: Re: ACTION-568: Create an alternative mechanism for openURL andsend it to the mail list (Web Applications Working Group) On 8/10/10

RE: [XHR] Status Update

2010-08-09 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
urposes it is supported. Thanks for the clarification. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan | AT&T -Original Message- From: Anne van Kesteren [mailto:ann...@opera.com] Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 9:51 PM To: Jonas Sicking; SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: WebApps WG Subject: Re: [XHR] Status

RE: [XHR] Status Update

2010-08-09 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
document.getElementById("text").innerHTML = "loadFile: " + url + "File should appear below"; extref.setAttribute('src', encurl); } } Thanks, Bryan Sullivan | AT&T -Original Message- From: Jonas

RE: [XHR] Status Update

2010-08-09 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
van Kesteren [mailto:ann...@opera.com] Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 2:49 PM To: Jonas Sicking; SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: WebApps WG Subject: Re: [XHR] Status Update On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 23:37:25 +0200, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) wrote: > Are you saying that it should not be possible no

RE: ACTION-568: Create an alternative mechanism for openURL andsend it to the mail list (Web Applications Working Group)

2010-08-09 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
--- From: marc...@opera.com [mailto:marc...@opera.com] Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 2:51 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: Web Applications Working Group WG Subject: RE: ACTION-568: Create an alternative mechanism for openURL andsend it to the mail list (Web Applications Working Group) Quoting

RE: [XHR] Status Update

2010-08-09 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
Anne, Are you saying that it should not be possible now (with XHR L1) to receive HTML files via XHR ("Receiving HTML documents would indeed be a newish feature ") ? This does actually work for me in XHR L1, so I'm unclear about what you mean below. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan | AT&T -Original

RE: ACTION-568: Create an alternative mechanism for openURL and send it to the mail list (Web Applications Working Group)

2010-08-09 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
Marcos, That method works for well-know URI schemes except for http:// and https://. The openURL() method would have launched the browser for those schemes, and we still need a method to do that. I was not able to attend the last week's call and was not aware there was a plan to remove the ope

RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-18 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
ivan | AT&T -Original Message- From: Eric Uhrhane [mailto:er...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 4:42 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: a...@mozilla.com; Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org; Ian Fette; Web Applications Working Group WG Subject: Re: Transferring File* t

RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-15 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
ryFilesystem are quite useful also, and may support the majority of use cases anyway. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan | AT&T From: Mike Clement [mailto:mi...@google.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:40 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: a...@mozilla.com; Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w

RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-15 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
T From: Mike Clement [mailto:mi...@google.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:42 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: a...@mozilla.com; Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org; Ian Fette; Web Applications Working Group WG Subject: Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux Hi, Am I corre

RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-15 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
ly secure models for Web application access to device resources will be defined as APIs. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan | AT&T -Original Message- From: Arun Ranganathan [mailto:a...@mozilla.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:53 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: Robin Berjon; public-d

RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-15 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
cking.cc] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:48 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: a...@mozilla.com; Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org; Ian Fette; Web Applications Working Group WG Subject: Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:24 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW

RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-15 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
options to the user-centric/control paradigms of the past. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan | AT&T -Original Message- From: Arun Ranganathan [mailto:a...@mozilla.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:48 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org; Ian Fett

Regrets for today

2010-06-10 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
I will not be able to attend today's call. Bryan | AT&T

Handling of locally-served files via XHR and as iframe source

2010-03-19 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
Hi all, This is a question for both the Webapps Widgets and Web API followers. In testing widget engine rendering of plain text files as the source of an iframe, I came across a problem I need your input on. It appears that when a widget retrieves a file from the widget package using XHR *OR* as

RE: Event handlers - Pointer Devices

2010-03-06 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
n Sullivan | AT&T -Original Message- From: Charles Pritchard [mailto:ch...@jumis.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:31 AM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: Doug Schepers; public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: Event handlers - Pointer Devices ` > On the main (or more useful) poin

RE: Event handlers - Pointer Devices

2010-03-04 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
hed to it. I'd like to see some clearer distinction between the charters on these points. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan | AT&T -Original Message- From: Doug Schepers [mailto:schep...@w3.org] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:08 AM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: Charles Pritchard;

RE: Event handlers - Pointer Devices

2010-03-04 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
This might be better discussed by the DAP group, as it's clearly a "device API" topic. Also it would be interesting to hear from Apple and Wacom (without unnecessary details at this point), what areas of touch interface capabilities would be problematic for W3C to create API's for, from an IPR per

RE: [EventSource] Comments to the current draft

2009-12-07 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
p;T -Original Message- From: Ian Hickson [mailto:i...@hixie.ch] Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 6:52 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: WebApps WG Subject: Re: [EventSource] Comments to the current draft On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) wrote: > > Re "T

RE: DAP and security (was: Rename "File API" to "FileReader API"?)

2009-11-18 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
Maciej, Security is important in DAP, and should be considered carefully in the context of each API and its use cases. There is no "one size fits all" solution to security, and that includes approaches based solely upon explicit user action (including explicitly expressed permission via dialog

RE: [WARP] Comments to WARP spec

2009-11-18 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
:ro...@berjon.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 4:00 AM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: Marcos Caceres; WebApps WG Subject: Re: [WARP] Comments to WARP spec On Nov 9, 2009, at 20:22 , SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) wrote: > (1) we need to be specific about which API's / resource types

RE: [WARP] Comments to WARP spec

2009-11-18 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
009 3:57 AM To: Marcin Hanclik Cc: Marcos Caceres; SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW); WebApps WG Subject: Re: [WARP] Comments to WARP spec On Nov 12, 2009, at 16:36 , Marcin Hanclik wrote: > I understand that too many details may not work or be an obstacle in the > adoption. > However, I derive

RE: [WARP] Comments to WARP spec

2009-11-12 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
Test 2: If the widget engine does not allow external image references, no image will be shown below: http://dev.opera.com/img/logo-beta.gif"/> Best regards, Bryan Sullivan | AT&T -Original Message- From: Marcos Caceres [mailto:marc..

RE: [WARP] Comments to WARP spec

2009-11-10 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
mailto:marc...@opera.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 7:30 AM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: WebApps WG Subject: Re: [WARP] Comments to WARP spec SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) wrote: > Marcos, > I agree there is an assumption behind the approach I proposed, which I also > b

RE: [WARP] Comments to WARP spec

2009-11-10 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
b security model, so we need to fix the element definition somehow. Best regards, Bryan Sullivan | AT&T -Original Message- From: Marcos Caceres [mailto:marc...@opera.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:36 AM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: WebApps WG Subject: Re: [WAR

RE: [WARP] Comments to WARP spec

2009-11-09 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
o indicate which types of references should be allowed for the domain My preference would be (1), but I proposed the use of "tag=" to illustrate how (2) might work. Best regards, Bryan Sullivan | AT&T -Original Message- From: Marcos Caceres [mailto:marc...@opera.com] Se

[WARP] Comments to WARP spec

2009-11-02 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
Here are the comments I had to the WARP spec in the Webapps/DAP joint meeting: 1) Does "*" grant/require either HTTP or HTTPS as schemes? It would be better to allow "https://*/"; or "http://*/"; distinctly since some applications may not be allowed by policy to access specific sources using non-s

[EventSource] Comments to the current draft

2009-10-27 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
Hi all, Here are some comments / questions for clarification re the current Server Sent Events draft (http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-eventsource-20091029/). If there is time next week, and these points are not addressed by email before then, I would appreciate the opportunity to have a F2F discussio

RE: TPAC agenda - APIs

2009-10-27 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
Hi Charles, I have an agenda item for the AOB section or wherever it can fit. I will be spending most of the time with DAP and part with Webapps (Widgets), but will try to balance the agendas to be in the APIs meeting as much as possible. The basic question I have is what is the relationship of

RE: [widgets] Draft Agenda for 17 September 2009 voice conf

2009-09-17 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
Regrets, I have a conflicting meeting. Best regards, Bryan Sullivan | AT&T

Close ACTION-357

2009-08-13 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
Hi Art, My action http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/actions/357 can be closed. The table that was requested was provided in Widgets 1.0: Window Modes and Media Query Extensions http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-wm/Overview.src.html. I didn't do it, but it does meet the original request relat

Questions on A&E spec

2009-06-09 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
Title: Questions on A&E spec Here are a couple of potentially easy questions on the Widgets 1.0: APIs and Events spec: 5.15 The openURL() Method Does "the appropriate protocol handler" mean an external application (e.g. browser for http://) is invoked, or can the "handler" be the widget u

Response to ACTION-348

2009-06-08 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
Title: Response to ACTION-348 Here is my input re my action for use cases to the WARP spec (http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/actions/348) Use cases for WARP spec related to the following access element attributes (add two new attributes): required: Optional. -   A boolean attribut

RE: [widgets] Comments to element text

2009-05-04 Thread Sullivan, Bryan
ssage- From: Marcos Caceres [mailto:marc...@opera.com] Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 2:30 AM To: Sullivan, Bryan Cc: Robin Berjon; public-webapps Subject: Re: [widgets] Comments to element text I'm still not convinced, can you give me a real life example? Or point me to an AppStore that makes us

RE: [widgets] Comments to element text

2009-05-01 Thread Sullivan, Bryan
cace...@gmail.com [mailto:marcosscace...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Marcos Caceres Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 8:36 AM To: Robin Berjon Cc: Sullivan, Bryan; public-webapps Subject: Re: [widgets] Comments to element text On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Robin Berjon wrote: > Hi Bryan, > > On Apr

RE: [widgets] Comments to element text

2009-04-30 Thread Sullivan, Bryan
gards, Bryan Sullivan | AT&T -Original Message- From: Robin Berjon [mailto:ro...@berjon.com] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:54 AM To: Sullivan, Bryan Cc: public-webapps Subject: Re: [widgets] Comments to element text Hi Bryan, On Apr 30, 2009, at 16:06 , Sullivan, Bryan wrote: > H

[widgets] Comments to element text

2009-04-30 Thread Sullivan, Bryan
Title: [widgets] Comments to element text Here are a couple of suggestions for the element (http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#the-access-element): Attributes (add two new attributes) required: Optional. A boolean attribute that indicates whether or not this resource is essential to th

June F2F

2009-04-15 Thread Sullivan, Bryan
Title: June F2F Art, Re the June F2F (June 9-11 in London; host is Vodafone), is there any chance this could be moved up to June 8-10? There is an OMTP meeting in London the week before, so I will be there, and plan to also attend the Webapps meeting. It would be better for me for the Webapp

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