Re: [Puppet-dev] Puppet 4 delivery and upgrades

2014-11-24 Thread Erik Dalén
Will there be a version of this AIO package for 3.7.4 (or even 3.7.3) so we can try out the packaging without trying out all the stuff in puppet 4.0 at the same time? On Sat Nov 22 2014 at 11:46:16 AM Martin Alfke tux...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 Nov 2014, at 21:46, Eric Sorenson

Re: [Puppet-dev] Puppet 4 delivery and upgrades

2014-11-24 Thread Martin Alfke
On Nov 24, 2014 11:33 AM, Erik Dalén erik.gustav.da...@gmail.com wrote: Will there be a version of this AIO package for 3.7.4 (or even 3.7.3) so we can try out the packaging without trying out all the stuff in puppet 4.0 at the same time? +1 On Sat Nov 22 2014 at 11:46:16 AM Martin Alfke

Re: [Puppet-dev] Puppet 4 delivery and upgrades

2014-11-24 Thread Trevor Vaughan
+2 On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Martin Alfke tux...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 24, 2014 11:33 AM, Erik Dalén erik.gustav.da...@gmail.com wrote: Will there be a version of this AIO package for 3.7.4 (or even 3.7.3) so we can try out the packaging without trying out all the stuff in

[Puppet-dev] Re: Group Resource auth_membership defaults to true - should this change?

2014-11-24 Thread John Bollinger
On Friday, November 21, 2014 3:21:15 PM UTC-6, Rob Reynolds wrote: When we originally set out to do PUP-2628[1] for Puppet 4, we were going to change the group resource default to not authoritative for Windows (e.g. the specified members would be the minimum), because the thinking is that

[Puppet-dev] Re: Puppet 4 delivery and upgrades

2014-11-24 Thread John Bollinger
On Friday, November 21, 2014 2:47:05 PM UTC-6, Eric Sorenson wrote: 5 - Why not use a metapackage which has no content of its own, but has requirements on specific versions of the other 'real' packages that contain the actual programs? • Avoiding a coordinated major version

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: Puppet 4 delivery and upgrades

2014-11-24 Thread Trevor Vaughan
I'm in 100% agreement with John here. Right now, I have a forked Hiera that I'm using based off of some patches that I have PRs in for. Once this gets resolved, I'll merge everything back to the mainline, but I *must* have the ability to deviate when necessary for the best results of my users.

[Puppet-dev] Re: Group Resource auth_membership defaults to true - should this change?

2014-11-24 Thread John Bollinger
On Monday, November 24, 2014 9:37:38 AM UTC-6, John Bollinger wrote: purging. I think you still end up with a slightly leaky abstraction, in that only some systems have a concept of users' primary group, but support for that could and probably should be recast as a provider feature. On

[Puppet-dev] New puppet-security-announce list

2014-11-24 Thread Moses Mendoza
We have created a new low-volume read-only mailing list for security-related announcements: puppet-security-announce. This list will contain only announcements of Puppet Labs software releases that address security vulnerabilities and other security-related information. This includes information

[Puppet-dev] Puppet4 Vs Puppet package name?

2014-11-24 Thread Joachim Thuau
on a slightly different tangent: Would it be possible to get the puppet 4.x packages named puppet4 instead of puppet? This would allow for one to ensure that bug fixes for puppet 3.x would be installed as soon as they become available for those of us sticking with 3.x, even after the 4.x

Re: [Puppet-dev] Puppet4 Vs Puppet package name?

2014-11-24 Thread Eric Sorenson
They'll be named 'puppet-agent' and therefore won't auto-upgrade if you already have puppet installed. I mentioned this up-thread but I can't blame you for missing it :) On Nov 24, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Joachim Thuau e...@korigan.net wrote: on a slightly different tangent: Would it be possible

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: Group Resource auth_membership defaults to true - should this change?

2014-11-24 Thread Felix Frank
On 11/24/2014 04:37 PM, John Bollinger wrote: A (say) Group_membership resource type could allow group membership to be expressed the same way for all systems, and it would dovetail nicely with the new ideas for client-side queries and resource purging. I think you still end up with a