[Puppet Users] Re: Experiences with RHN Satellite?

2009-03-19 Thread Gajillion
Gah! Just noticed you said you've got 50 servers. Don't bother. It's not worth the expense or the hassle. 500 servers? 5,000 servers? Completely different story. Gajillion wrote: > Thought I'd chime in here since most of these comments seem to be > negative. This is the second organization

[Puppet Users] Re: Experiences with RHN Satellite?

2009-03-19 Thread Gajillion
Thought I'd chime in here since most of these comments seem to be negative. This is the second organization I've worked at using Satellite. It has some issues, but it has also saved me countless hours of work. It is NOT a configuration management tool, that was never its intent. There is a cob

[Puppet Users] Re: Experiences with RHN Satellite?

2009-03-17 Thread Marc Fournier
> how do you then download *all* the packages installed on the 400 or so > servers from redhat, to seed your local repo ? https://rhn.redhat.com/rhn/software/downloads/SupportedISOs.do You can download the DVD images of the releases and loopback-mount them somewhere under apache's DocumentRoot

[Puppet Users] Re: Experiences with RHN Satellite?

2009-03-16 Thread paul matthews
I've deleted some of the earlier postings on this subject so I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned but the open source alternative to RHN is spacewalk which could be worth considering, https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/ Rgds Paul 2009/3/14 Trevor Vaughan > > Mrepo: http://dag.wieers.

[Puppet Users] Re: Experiences with RHN Satellite?

2009-03-13 Thread Trevor Vaughan
Mrepo: http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/mrepo/ Don't forget that, if you're using Red Hat's updates, you still need to have a license for each system that you're updating. Trevor On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 21:07, Sam Abed wrote: > how do you then download *all* the packages installed on the 400 or

[Puppet Users] Re: Experiences with RHN Satellite?

2009-03-13 Thread Avi Miller
Sam Abed wrote: > how do you then download *all* the packages installed on the 400 or so > servers from redhat, to seed your local repo ? This OTN article from Oracle on creating a local repository from ULN could probably be modified fairly easily to be used with RHEL. http://www.oracle.com/t

[Puppet Users] Re: Experiences with RHN Satellite?

2009-03-13 Thread Sam Abed
how do you then download *all* the packages installed on the 400 or so servers from redhat, to seed your local repo ? On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Ohad Levy wrote: > I would argue that a one time effort to get proper repo locally, would be > much more efficient than using a tool like RHN Sate

[Puppet Users] Re: Experiences with RHN Satellite?

2009-03-10 Thread Tom Brown
> Did a POC of it at my current company. I've also had the RedHat > Enterprise Deployment and Virtualization class. > > This product was originally envisioned began development before RedHat > even had an IPO. The reason I mention this is that the mindset around > systems management at that tim

[Puppet Users] Re: Experiences with RHN Satellite?

2009-03-09 Thread joe
Did a POC of it at my current company. I've also had the RedHat Enterprise Deployment and Virtualization class. This product was originally envisioned began development before RedHat even had an IPO. The reason I mention this is that the mindset around systems management at that time is what yo

[Puppet Users] Re: Experiences with RHN Satellite?

2009-03-09 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > > PeterBurkholder writes: > >> My boss has RedHat coming in on Tuesday to give a spiel on RHN >> Satellite.  I'm dubious, as it seems mostly like a web UI wrapped around >> a Yum repository system and a half-baked configuration management >>

[Puppet Users] Re: Experiences with RHN Satellite?

2009-03-09 Thread Brett Viren
PeterBurkholder writes: > FWIW, we'll be looking about 50 systems that need to be > managed, and we may not have to pay for server itself ($13.5K) just > for the system subscriptions ($200 each). Note that the Satellite server code has been open sourced so I'm not sure why they still charge so

[Puppet Users] Re: Experiences with RHN Satellite?

2009-03-09 Thread paul matthews
>From my fairly limited experience there is some functionality in Satellite servers that takes it beyond local repositories in that you can group hosts into channels (dev, test, prod etc) and apply changes specific to the channel >From the satellite server you can also fire back commands to a host

[Puppet Users] Re: Experiences with RHN Satellite?

2009-03-09 Thread Joe McDonagh
I've used it somewhat and it's great when it works, painful when it doesn't (re: PAIN), but it's sort of beastly for only 50 boxes IMO. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post t

[Puppet Users] Re: Experiences with RHN Satellite?

2009-03-08 Thread Michael T. Halligan
PAIN. PAIN. PAIN. That's my experience with RHN Satellite server. PAIN. On Mar 8, 2009, at 10:37 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > > PeterBurkholder writes: > >> My boss has RedHat coming in on Tuesday to give a spiel on RHN >> Satellite. I'm dubious, as it seems mostly like a web UI wrapped >>

[Puppet Users] Re: Experiences with RHN Satellite?

2009-03-08 Thread Ohad Levy
I would argue that a one time effort to get proper repo locally, would be much more efficient than using a tool like RHN Satellite. this way you control the content of your repository. additionally, I would really recommend against having multiple tools managing your systems. my 2c Ohad On Mon, M

[Puppet Users] Re: Experiences with RHN Satellite?

2009-03-08 Thread Russ Allbery
PeterBurkholder writes: > My boss has RedHat coming in on Tuesday to give a spiel on RHN > Satellite. I'm dubious, as it seems mostly like a web UI wrapped around > a Yum repository system and a half-baked configuration management > system. I'm of the opinion that our time and money would be b