> Is there a reason I couldn't just create a simple model that uses a db
> connection string from the developer.ini conf file and then just make
> direct queries?
We have a pretty big application using PostgreSQL + psycopg2 with no
SqlAlchemy whatsoever, so it's
definitely possible :-)
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Law
yep. i mean foo.localhost :)
On Jan 22, 3:44 am, Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You should probably add foo.localhost andwww.localhostto your hosts
> file as well.
>
> Le lundi 21 janvier 2008 à 13:34 -0800, Pavel Skvazh a écrit :
>
> > That's exactly what I've got there.
> > Running
orm is abstraction over database query language. you can make queries
in oo-terms. so your business logic stays clear and you dont care
about object persistence.
also with orm you can change backend (from MySQL to Postgre for ex.)
just
by edit config. if you work with native sql its not always po
> I am a little unsure of the Model concepts though, and how tightly
> they are bound to SQLAlchemy.
They aren't. Actually, it seems you are not even obliged to use a Model at
all. You can just write controllers and handle all the logic inside them
if you want (although many people would probabl
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On Jan 22, 2008, at 3:09 AM, "Antoine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>> I am a little unsure of the Model concepts though, and how tightly
>> they are bound to SQLAlchemy.
>
> They aren't. Actually, it seems you are not even obliged to use a
>
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On Jan 22, 2008, at 12:08 AM, "Lawrence Oluyede" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>> Is there a reason I couldn't just create a simple model that uses a
>> db
>> connection string from the developer.ini conf file and then just make
>> direct queri
> So if I didnt need the portable scheme creation, can I just skip the
> table def in the model?
If you only plan to use raw (text) queries, yes. But then you would need
to write your CREATE TABLE statements by hand, so I'm not sure it would
buy you anything unless you have specific needs.
> Al
I have been trying to follow the install instructions here.
http://wiki.pylonshq.com/display/pylonsdocs/Home
Everything was going okay until I tried this:
wb:/var/www/helloworld# paster serve --reload development.ini
Starting subprocess with file monitor
Starting server in PID 3751.
09:45:52,84
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On Jan 22, 2008, at 7:38 AM, "Antoine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> So if I didnt need the portable scheme creation, can I just skip the
>> table def in the model?
>
> If you only plan to use raw (text) queries, yes. But then you would
> ne
Antoine escreveu:
> Some of that configuration (the table declarations) replaces hand-written
> CREATE TABLE queries, though, and in a more portable way.
>
It's one of those "you have to see it before you believe it" situations.
I've smacked my forehead recently, for not having tried out the O
On Jan 22, 2:33 am, Dmitry Lipovoi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> orm is abstraction over database query language. you can make queries
> in oo-terms. so your business logic stays clear and you dont care
> about object persistence.
>
> also with orm you can change backend (from MySQL to Postgre for
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On Jan 22, 2008, at 9:11 AM, walterbyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Jan 22, 2:33 am, Dmitry Lipovoi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> orm is abstraction over database query language. you can make queries
>> in oo-terms. so your business logic st
I've got an app with the following ini:
...
[app:main]
use = egg:myapp
filter-with = app-prefix
...
[filter:app-prefix]
use = egg:PasteDeploy#prefix
prefix=/myapp
I've been developing without the filter option, and now that I have
it, my hard-coded image paths no longer work. (e.g. they're looki
On Jan 22, 2008 8:53 AM, walterbyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have been trying to follow the install instructions here.
>
> http://wiki.pylonshq.com/display/pylonsdocs/Home
>
> Everything was going okay until I tried this:
>
> wb:/var/www/helloworld# paster serve --reload development.ini
>
I meant to ask, which operating system and virtual server product is
your ISP using? How do they provide Python? (I.e.,anything you know
about who compiled Python, where it's located, and what kinds of
Python add-ons the ISP provide?
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On Jan 22, 2008 5:17 AM, Kevin Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 22, 2008, at 3:09 AM, "Antoine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I would always use a model unless maybe if there was no db.
I would use a model even if there weren't a db. It keeps your
"business objects" from being too clos
On Jan 22, 2008 11:11 AM, Matt Haggard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've got an app with the following ini:
> ...
> [app:main]
> use = egg:myapp
> filter-with = app-prefix
> ...
> [filter:app-prefix]
> use = egg:PasteDeploy#prefix
> prefix=/myapp
>
> I've been developing without the filter optio
So what about images in CSS files? I can't use helper functions
there...
I'll try the h.url_for() in the templates and let you know
On Jan 22, 1:34 pm, "Mike Orr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 22, 2008 11:11 AM, Matt Haggard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I've got an app with th
Matt Haggard wrote:
> So what about images in CSS files? I can't use helper functions
> there...
Make them relative to the url the CSS file lives in, eg:
.foos { background-image: url(../img/foo-bg.jpeg) }
(assuming this css file is at public/css/style.css and the image at
public/img/foo-bg.jp
On 22 jan, 10:33, Dmitry Lipovoi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> orm is abstraction over database query language. you can make queries
> in oo-terms. so your business logic stays clear and you dont care
> about object persistence.
Bullshit.
When using a RDBMS, the database schema is actually 90% (
On 22 jan, 14:17, Kevin Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sent from my iPhone
> Please excuse any typos ;)
>
> On Jan 22, 2008, at 3:09 AM, "Antoine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> I am a little unsure of the Model concepts though, and how tightly
> >> they are bound to SQLAlchemy.
>
> > They
On Jan 22, 12:40 pm, "Mike Orr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I meant to ask, which operating system and virtual server product is
> your ISP using? How do they provide Python?
I'm sorry, I should have mentioned that. The OS is Debian Etch. I
installed Python with a standard apt-get. I am using l
On Jan 22, 2008 1:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 22 jan, 10:33, Dmitry Lipovoi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > orm is abstraction over database query language. you can make queries
> > in oo-terms. so your business logic stays clear and you dont care
> > about object per
On Jan 22, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Mike Orr wrote:
>
> On Jan 22, 2008 5:17 AM, Kevin Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Jan 22, 2008, at 3:09 AM, "Antoine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I would always use a model unless maybe if there was no db.
>
> I would use a model even if there weren't a
On Jan 22, 2008, at 1:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On 22 jan, 14:17, Kevin Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Please excuse any typos ;)
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2008, at 3:09 AM, "Antoine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
I am a little unsure of the Model concepts thoug
On Jan 22, 2008 4:00 PM, Kevin Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hmmm this sounds interesting "autoload", I'm guessing this uses the
> table metadata to build the definition? would I find a link to that
> in the SQLAlchemy site?
See "reflecting tables" in the first chapter of the SQLAlchemy man
On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 11:11 -0800, Matt Haggard wrote:
> I've been developing without the filter option, and now that I have
> it, my hard-coded image paths no longer work. (e.g. they're looking
> at http://127.0.0.1:5000/images/something.gif when they should be
> looking at http://127.0.0.1:50
On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 11:38 -0800, Mike Orr wrote:
> On Jan 22, 2008 8:53 AM, walterbyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I have been trying to follow the install instructions here.
> >
> > http://wiki.pylonshq.com/display/pylonsdocs/Home
> >
> > Everything was going okay until I tried this:
> >
On Jan 22, 2008 7:04 PM, Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 11:11 -0800, Matt Haggard wrote:
>
> > I've been developing without the filter option, and now that I have
> > it, my hard-coded image paths no longer work. (e.g. they're looking
> > at http://127.0.0.1:50
Hi,
I'm looking for a clear, simple 10,000 foot overview of how pylons
and its various components work together, preferably with some snazzy
diagrams to point out things like client<-->server request flows and
relationships between the various pylons components.
As a brief introduction, I've
Ok, so immediately following this lengthy post, I got to thinking,
maybe I just haven't been searching for the right keywords. I found
this, which is pretty much exactly what I was droning on about in the
preceding paragraphs:
http://spacepants.org/blog/pylons-paste-stack
This is pretty much Exa
Thought I'd also add that it would be awesome if something like the
diagram below were posted prominently somewhere near the beginning of
the pylons docs!
On Jan 23, 3:17 pm, kettle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, so immediately following this lengthy post, I got to thinking,
> maybe I just have
On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 19:37 -0800, Mike Orr wrote:
> You'll have to set up a handler for each file/directory in public if you want
> to
> do this, or put everything in a subdirectory of public which will appear in
> the
> URL (public/static/images -> /static/images). Unless there's a way to ma
I'm just going to continue using this post as my personal notepad, and
add a couple more useful resources I've managed to dig up in the last
hour:
http://pythonpaste.org/archives/mindex/[EMAIL
PROTECTED]/message/20070307.035711.786edbb1.en.html
http://pythonpaste.org/archives/mindex/[EMAIL
PROTE
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