Just wanted to add to this discussion , for potential things to
address in the docs:
The security authorization/authentication stuff is a bit intense.
At first glance, it looks and reads very much like an enterprise
software type of system, with a lot of overhead. If I were building
a CMS or a
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Jonathan Vanasco jonat...@findmeon.comwrote:
1. A nice paragraph or two giving an overview of the scope / style of
Security that is offered , and why you might want to use it. ( even
the first bit of
Sorry, you mentioned your version of the docs in response to a similar
comment that I made and I didn't reply.
I did find your explanation very helpful in breaking down the explanations
into digestible chunks - I'd very much support that yours should be merged
into the main documents.
Ben
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On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 14:11 -0600, Joe Dallago wrote:
Count me in for $25. I can give it to you at PyCon, if that is not
too late. Otherwise, Paypal or something.
Thanks!
I have applied for a kickstarter.com project in the meantime.
- C
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Iain Duncan
On 4 fév, 04:53, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote:
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So this is me asking you for money. If I can find four other sponsors
willing to contribute US $1000, I will contribute another $1000, making
a total of $5000.
Can you convince your company to donate US $1K to this effort? The
Hi
I can contribute $50.
Please add me to the list and tell us how send the money.
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On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 03:52 -0800, Tarek Ziadé wrote:
On 4 fév, 04:53, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote:
...
So this is me asking you for money. If I can find four other sponsors
willing to contribute US $1000, I will contribute another $1000, making
a total of $5000.
Can you
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 03:58 -0800, artee wrote:
Hi
I can contribute $50.
Please add me to the list and tell us how send the money.
Great, thank you!
Still awaiting approval, but with any luck the money will eventually be
collected via a kickstarter.com account.
- C
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On 4 fév, 04:53, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote:
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So this is me asking you for money. If I can find four other sponsors
willing to contribute US $1000, I will contribute another $1000, making
a total
On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 10:36 -0800, Iain Duncan wrote:
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com
wrote:
On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 10:23 -0800, Iain Duncan wrote:
The docs overhaul project isn't about a new website,
it's just
On 4 fev, 01:53, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote:
So this is me asking you for money. If I can find four other sponsors
willing to contribute US $1000, I will contribute another $1000, making
a total of $5000.
That is a great idea, Chris.
I can contribute $100. Suggestion: set up a
that would be great Chris, thanks.
http://docs.pylonsproject.org/en/latest/community/codestyle.html
http://docs.pylonsproject.org/en/latest/community/addons-devenvs.html
Thanks!
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That is a great idea, Chris.
I can contribute $100. Suggestion: set up a project on some
crowdfunding site like http://www.fundageek.com/ and you'll have 5K
real quick.
+1 on that, kickstarter and it's ilk make it really easy to donate.
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Is there a plan to have a docs page about what's happening with the docs?
(or wiki/trac/etc) I'd like to start documenting some of how we work with
Pyramid and be able to integrate it better with the Real Docs.
Thanks
Iain
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On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Blaise Laflamme bla...@laflamme.orgwrote:
You can start a page on the github pyramid wiki
What I mean was to ask whether Graham et al would be putting up a roadmap
somewhere of their reorg so I can slant my efforts accordingly.
Thanks
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Am Freitag, den 10.02.2012, 09:57 -0800 schrieb Blaise Laflamme:
You can start a page on the github pyramid wiki
BTW, will the new website also include user accounts to publish How Tos
or pyramid extensions? Especially a central list of pyramid extensions
was useful.
Arndt.
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On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 19:13 +0100, Arndt Droullier wrote:
Am Freitag, den 10.02.2012, 09:57 -0800 schrieb Blaise Laflamme:
You can start a page on the github pyramid wiki
BTW, will the new website also include user accounts to publish How Tos
or pyramid extensions? Especially a central
The docs overhaul project isn't about a new website, it's just about
overhauling the existing narrative and API docs.
Currently the Cookbook is where to put howtos (you can fork it and add
new howtos via https://github.com/Pylons/pyramid_cookbook). You can
create Pyramid extensions and
On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 10:23 -0800, Iain Duncan wrote:
The docs overhaul project isn't about a new website, it's just
about
overhauling the existing narrative and API docs.
Currently the Cookbook is where to put howtos (you can fork it
and add
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote:
On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 10:23 -0800, Iain Duncan wrote:
The docs overhaul project isn't about a new website, it's just
about
overhauling the existing narrative and API docs.
Count me in for $25. I can give it to you at PyCon, if that is not
too late. Otherwise, Paypal or something.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Iain Duncan iainduncanli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote:
On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 10:23
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Blaise Laflamme bla...@laflamme.org wrote:
You can start a page on the github pyramid wiki
I started a page for the documentation roadmap and user suggestions.
https://github.com/Pylons/pyramid/wiki/Documentation-Roadmap
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On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Blaise Laflamme bla...@laflamme.org wrote:
You can start a page on the github pyramid wiki
I started a page for the documentation roadmap and user suggestions.
You can count me in for another $50...
Bruce
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On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 16:35 -0800, Bruce Coble wrote:
You can count me in for another $50...
Thanks!
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I'll observe that's a straw man that you've brought to the party; no-one
has mentioned any trimming of the docs, simplistically or otherwise.
??? From the originating post by Chris
- Trim down the current set of docs to a more manageable length.
Currently they weigh in at over 700 printed
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:
+1 for splitting the manual into simple and advanced, however that's
defined. Simple = normal application usage based on the built-in
scaffolds. This would include both Chameleon and Mako, and maybe
traversal. Advanced =
On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 09:44 -0800, Iain Duncan wrote:
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com
wrote:
+1 for splitting the manual into simple and advanced, however
that's
defined. Simple = normal application usage based on the
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote:
Pyramid's use of a ZCA registry is still an internal implementation
detail, and as such isn't really intentionally exposed to the outside
world. It won't make much sense for the docs to explain how Pyramid
works in terms
On Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:35:50 UTC, Iain Duncan wrote:
I'll observe that's a straw man that you've brought to the party; no-one
has mentioned any trimming of the docs, simplistically or otherwise.
That seems like a pretty clear mention of trimming the docs to get rid of
the
Pyramid's use of a ZCA registry is still an internal implementation
detail, and as such isn't really intentionally exposed to the outside
world. It won't make much sense for the docs to explain how Pyramid
works in terms of ZCA vocabulary such as adaptation, or even link
heavily to things
Configurator methods to call, just as the docs do now. Theoretically,
Pyramid may disuse the ZCA in a future major release (although it's
highly unlikely).
It might also be worth mentioning that dis-using the ZCA would end a lot of
my work for our system, and force us to either stay on a
This was just a documentation emphasis... Pyramid won't be getting rid of
the component registry without a damn good reason.
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Iain Duncan iainduncanli...@gmail.comwrote:
Configurator methods to call, just as the docs do now. Theoretically,
Pyramid may disuse
On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 17:51 -0600, Michael Merickel wrote:
This was just a documentation emphasis... Pyramid won't be getting rid
of the component registry without a damn good reason.
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iainduncanli...@gmail.com wrote:
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i'd be happy to chip in
€ 50 = 65.47500 U.S. dollars
best regards
robert
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On Tue, 2012-02-07 at 10:31 +0100, Danny Navarro wrote:
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i'd be happy to chip in
€ 50 = 65.47500 U.S. dollars
best regards
Personally, the only real shortcoming I've found with Pyramid (documentation or
otherwise) is that it doesn't have a Buy that man a beer! button. :-) So,
count me in for $50 to help out.
Mark
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On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote:
Can you convince your company to donate US $1K to this effort? The
money would be collected by Agendaless and transfered to Graham as soon
as we reached our goal.
I'm an indie, so no, but I can personally pledge $100,
On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 10:46 -0600, Matt Feifarek wrote:
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com
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Can you convince your company to donate US $1K to this
effort? The
money would be collected by Agendaless and transfered to
Graham
We're indy too but could kick in $50.
That said, please do not just trim the expert oriented stuff and have it
nowhere, that will seriously lower the quality of the docs for complex
applications and people weighing up pyramid for those kinds of purposes.
You'll just be hiding lots of the best
On Monday, 6 February 2012 17:54:36 UTC, Iain Duncan wrote:
but simply trimming the docs
I'll observe that's a straw man that you've brought to the party; no-one
has mentioned any trimming of the docs, simplistically or otherwise.
My personal preference would be to have a parallel structure
Iain, apologies, my response was overly stiff and formal, it wasn't meant
to be - you got some unintended crosstalk from a parallel conv that I was
in, soz.
Really, Heartfelt thanks for the contribution was what I should have
written.
I'll try and explain my thinking later, we need a Plan B
+1 for splitting the manual into simple and advanced, however that's
defined. Simple = normal application usage based on the built-in
scaffolds. This would include both Chameleon and Mako, and maybe
traversal. Advanced = optional customizations such as new renderers or
ZCA.
The hardest things to
I'm just a casual user, but I could contribute £30 (~$47), if this is
not too little.
On a related note I'd quite like to see a more mainstream book on
Pyramid. So for my own edification I'm in the process of trying to
write one. Does anyone else feel that there is a need for such a book
or is it
On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 22:11 -0800, Tjelvar wrote:
I'm just a casual user, but I could contribute £30 (~$47), if this is
not too little.
Thanks, it's great.
On a related note I'd quite like to see a more mainstream book on
Pyramid. So for my own edification I'm in the process of trying to
I would be happy to personally contribute $50 to the effort. Please add me to
the list.
Perhaps this is an amount other independents could put forward, and together
another 18 of us might represent one of the $1000 company contributions?
Best, S
On 4 Feb 2012, at 12:32, Chris McDonough wrote:
On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 10:11 +, Simon Yarde wrote:
I would be happy to personally contribute $50 to the effort. Please add me to
the list.
Perhaps this is an amount other independents could put forward, and together
another 18 of us might represent one of the $1000 company
I'll commit to $100.
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I'll commit to $100.
Much appreciated!
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I will contribute $100. Thanks.
On 2/4/2012 6:08 AM, Ginés Martínez wrote:
I will contribute with 50 €. Tell us how send the money.
Gins.
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On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 15:02 -0500, clemensherschel wrote:
I will contribute $100. Thanks.
Many thanks, I'll mark it down.
On 2/4/2012 6:08 AM, Ginés Martínez wrote:
I will contribute with 50 €. Tell us how send the money.
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I will contribute with 100 €. We need good docs for everyone.
Best regards.
Cem.
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On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 16:23 -0800, Cem Ikta wrote:
I will contribute with 100 €. We need good docs for everyone.
Great!
Best regards.
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On Sat, 2012-02-04 at 12:08 +0100, Ginés Martínez wrote:
I will contribute with 50 €. Tell us how send the money.
Thank you! I'll mark you down for that amount and if we reach the goal
we'll arrange for payment (it will probably be via Paypal).
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I'm busy until PyCon is over but I will donate 40hrs of my time helping
rewrite docs, blog posts, screencasts, or whatever is needed the week after
PyCon
On Feb 4, 2012 12:14 PM, Jonathan Vanasco jonat...@findmeon.com wrote:
kickstarter?
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While Pyramid will never be as high-level as something like Plone or
Django or Rails, it's still often more appropriate to use than those
systems in a variety of situations, not all of which require complete
Python mastery. We can do a much better job on docs for intermediate
Python developers.
By the way, I'm planning some organization work on the Cookbook after
I finish the Pyramid/Pylons guide. I want to organize the main page
into topic chapters (database, forms, templates, deployment, etc), put
large items into subpages under their topic, and write stub pages for
the topics that
On Fri, 2012-02-03 at 20:26 -0800, Mike Orr wrote:
By the way, I'm planning some organization work on the Cookbook after
I finish the Pyramid/Pylons guide. I want to organize the main page
into topic chapters (database, forms, templates, deployment, etc), put
large items into subpages under
I'd like to donate labor to the effort by proofreading and
providing a Pyramid/Python newbie perspective.
--steve
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While Pyramid will never be as high-level as something like Plone or
Django or Rails, it's still often more
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