Re: [pypy-dev] [Speed] Co-ordinating benchmarking

2011-08-31 Thread Tennessee Leeuwenburg
Okay, so all of a sudden there seem to be a *lot* of people looking at this. This was a long thread quickly, and I only just got up to speed with it. There are a lot of new names, and I don't know what existing skills, interest and territories exist. Apologies for any faux pas. I would like to org

[pypy-dev] djangobench performance

2011-08-31 Thread Fenn Bailey
Hi all, As an experiment, I thought I'd test JKM's djangobench ( https://github.com/jacobian/djangobench) under pypy as a way of determining a (hopefully) more useful benchmark than the template-only "django" benchmark that's standard on speed.pypy.org and also to get an idea as to whether switchi

[pypy-dev] Here's a fun one...

2011-08-31 Thread Dino Viehland
This came up on an internal discussion, I thought it was fun, especially given that we all behave differently: Paste this into the REPL: class PS1(object): def __init__(self): self.count = 0 def __str__(self): self.count += 1 return "%d >>>" % self.count import sys sys.ps1 = PS1()

Re: [pypy-dev] [Speed] Moving the project forward

2011-08-31 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
Its all branches all the way down, so we can start work anywhere and push it to an "official" PSF bin later I think. I'm sure we will want to host a mirror of it on the python.org hg server too, just for discoverability. --Noah On Aug 31, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Miquel Torres wrote: > Oh, cool, so t

Re: [pypy-dev] [Speed] Moving the project forward

2011-08-31 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:34, Miquel Torres wrote: > Hi all, > > though I took up on the task of installing a Codespeed instance > myself, I didn't have time until now. This weekend I will definitely > have  a *lot* of time to work on this, so count on that task being > done by then. > > The bitb

Re: [pypy-dev] [Speed] Moving the project forward

2011-08-31 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
Opscode has already agreed to donate a Hosted account as long we keep it under ~20 clients :-) I can hand out the info for it to anyone that wants. As for setting up the Chef repo, just remember we are trying to not manage this system in isolation and that it will be part of a bigger PSF infrast

Re: [pypy-dev] [Speed] Moving the project forward

2011-08-31 Thread Miquel Torres
Oh, cool, so there will be an Opscode hosted account for the PSF, right? Then the Chef repo should be for the PSF. Maybe in a current account somewhere? What do you propose? Miquel 2011/8/31 Noah Kantrowitz : > Opscode has already agreed to donate a Hosted account as long we keep it > under ~20

Re: [pypy-dev] Moving the project forward

2011-08-31 Thread Miquel Torres
Hi all, though I took up on the task of installing a Codespeed instance myself, I didn't have time until now. This weekend I will definitely have a *lot* of time to work on this, so count on that task being done by then. The bitbucket issue tracker is a start (though a organization account would

Re: [pypy-dev] Moving the project forward

2011-08-31 Thread Jesse Noller
I've put up a splash page for the project this AM: http://speed.python.org/ jesse ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev

Re: [pypy-dev] Policy on Python 3 and Python 2 executable names

2011-08-31 Thread Aaron DeVore
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Armin Rigo wrote: > > I suppose that we need to *have* a pypy3 first, before any > conversation like that really makes sense.  Last March this wasn't > even being considered.  Now it is maybe in some very draftish early > planning stage. The idea is to be proacti

Re: [pypy-dev] Hacking at tarfile.py and gzip.py

2011-08-31 Thread Armin Rigo
Re-hi, On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Armin Rigo wrote: > If you do helpful performance fixes, they are probably helpful for > CPython, too, and so they should go to the CPython issue tracker. ...or, I just saw this kind of check-in: "pypy doesn't like adding empty strings." Instead of "fixin

[pypy-dev] Hacking at tarfile.py and gzip.py

2011-08-31 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi Justin, I see that you're hacking at CPython's tarfile.py and gzip.py, for performance reason. I should warn you that it's probably a bad idea. For example, when we moved from supporting 2.5 to 2.7, we didn't manually convert all the stuff in modified-2.5; we just mostly ignored it and took th

[pypy-dev] PyCon UK and PyPy

2011-08-31 Thread John Pinner
Hello Guys, You should have heard that we are holding PyCon UK 2011 on 24th-25th September 2011 at Coventry, UK (about 25km from Birmingham where we held EP2009/EP2010). Details are on the wiki at http://pyconuk.net. It would be good to have a PyPy presence, at least a talk, maybe a Workshop, or

Re: [pypy-dev] [Speed] Moving the project forward

2011-08-31 Thread Jesse Noller
Noah is one person, yes you should help On Aug 31, 2011, at 3:43 AM, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > -On [20110831 02:57], Noah Kantrowitz (n...@coderanger.net) wrote: >> Yahr, I be here. I would really like to see this done under a config >> management system (I prefer

Re: [pypy-dev] [Speed] Moving the project forward

2011-08-31 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [20110831 02:57], Noah Kantrowitz (n...@coderanger.net) wrote: >Yahr, I be here. I would really like to see this done under a config >management system (I prefer Chef and thats been the plan so far unless there >are heavy objections). In general no one should ever be changing thin

[pypy-dev] PyCon UK wants pypy

2011-08-31 Thread Laura Creighton
This is the message that got bounced. Since I now am admin this shouldn't happen any more. --- Forwarded Message Return-Path: funth...@gmail.com Delivery-Date: Wed Aug 31 10:47:05 2011 Return-Path: Message-ID: Subject: Fwd: PyPy at PyCon UK From: John Pinner To: Laura Creighton The bou

Re: [pypy-dev] Moving the project forward

2011-08-31 Thread Antonio Cuni
On 31/08/11 10:12, Antonio Cuni wrote: I can setup a buildbot instance on speed.pypy.org, if you give me access to the machine. I propose that as a very first step, we just make speed.pypy.org a buildslave which depends on pypy's own buildmaster. This makes it very easy and fast to setup it, so w

Re: [pypy-dev] Moving the project forward

2011-08-31 Thread Antonio Cuni
Hi Jesse, hi all, On 31/08/11 02:37, Jesse Noller wrote: Yes, I should have looped Noah in sooner. I have all the keys / passwords. Right now we need: 1. codespeed 2. benchmark runners The second item is divided into two sub-items: the runner itself, and something that triggers a run nightl

[pypy-dev] Failing App-Level-Test test_posix2.py

2011-08-31 Thread Juergen Boemmels
Hi, Since some weeks in one Applevel-test is failing consitently on the buildbot: module/posix/test/test_posix2.py with the failure:     if sys.platform.startswith('linux'): >   assert hasattr(st, 'st_rdev') E   assert hasattr(posix.stat_result(st_mode=33152,st_ino=1588275L, s

Re: [pypy-dev] Policy on Python 3 and Python 2 executable names

2011-08-31 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi Aaron, On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Aaron DeVore wrote: > From what I can tell, PyPy doesn't have a policy on how package > maintainers should differentiate between Python 2 and Python 3 > executables. I brought up adding "pypy2" on #pypy in March, but the > conversation quickly died. I