Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-12 Thread engelbert . gruber
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, Fredrik Lundh wrote: if all undocumented modules had as much documentation and articles as ET, the world would be a lot better documented ;-) I've posted a text version of the xml.etree.ElementTree PythonDoc here: http://www.python.org/sf/1504046 hopefully, one of

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-12 Thread engelbert . gruber
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, Fredrik Lundh wrote: if all undocumented modules had as much documentation and articles as ET, the world would be a lot better documented ;-) I've posted a text version of the xml.etree.ElementTree PythonDoc here: http://www.python.org/sf/1504046 hopefully, one of

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-12 Thread Guido van Rossum
PyXML appears pretty stable (in terms of release frequency -- I have no opinion on the code quality :-). Perhaps it could just be incorporated into the Python svn tree, if the various owners are willing to sign a contributor statement? --Guido On 6/11/06, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-12 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Guido van Rossum wrote: PyXML appears pretty stable (in terms of release frequency -- I have no opinion on the code quality :-). Perhaps it could just be incorporated into the Python svn tree, if the various owners are willing to sign a contributor statement? That is, in itself, a

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-11 Thread Nick Coghlan
Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote: On Saturday 10 June 2006 12:34, Fredrik Lundh wrote: if all undocumented modules had as much documentation and articles as ET, the world would be a lot better documented ;-) I've posted a text version of the xml.etree.ElementTree PythonDoc here: Here's a

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-11 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote: With the introduction of the xmlcore package in Python 2.5, should we document xml.etree or xmlcore.etree? If someone installs PyXML with Python 2.5, I don't think they're going to get xml.etree, which will be really confusing. We can be sure that

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-11 Thread Simon Percivall
On 11 jun 2006, at 12.09, Fredrik Lundh wrote: Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote: With the introduction of the xmlcore package in Python 2.5, should we document xml.etree or xmlcore.etree? If someone installs PyXML with Python 2.5, I don't think they're going to get xml.etree, which will be

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-11 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Simon Percivall wrote: how about tweaking the xml loader to map xml.foo to _xmlplus.foo only if that subpackage really exists ? I'm a bit confused by what the problem is. I though this was all handled like it should be now. that's how I thought things were done, but then I read Fred's

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-11 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Neal Norwitz wrote: The most important outstanding issue is the xmlplus/xmlcore issue. It's not going to get fixed unless someone works on it. There's only a few days left before beta 1. Can someone please address this? From my point of view, I shall consider them resolved/irrelevant: I'm

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-10 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Saturday 10 June 2006 12:34, Fredrik Lundh wrote: if all undocumented modules had as much documentation and articles as ET, the world would be a lot better documented ;-) I've posted a text version of the xml.etree.ElementTree PythonDoc here: Here's a question that we should answer

[Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-09 Thread Neal Norwitz
The most important outstanding issue is the xmlplus/xmlcore issue. It's not going to get fixed unless someone works on it. There's only a few days left before beta 1. Can someone please address this? If that means reverting changes to maintain compatibility, so be it. There is still the

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-09 Thread Paul Moore
On 6/9/06, Aahz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was also discussion of a change to the way quit works in interactive mode. I see no record of it, so I guess that's not going in, either. It's already in 2.5a2, if I'm thinking of the same thing you are... Paul.

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-09 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On Friday, June 09, 2006, at 03:34PM, Georg Brandl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Moore wrote: On 6/9/06, Aahz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was also discussion of a change to the way quit works in interactive mode. I see no record of it, so I guess that's not going in, either. It's

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-09 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 6/8/06, Neal Norwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The most important outstanding issue is the xmlplus/xmlcore issue. It's not going to get fixed unless someone works on it. There's only a few days left before beta 1. Can someone please address this? If that means reverting changes to

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-09 Thread Aahz
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006, Paul Moore wrote: On 6/9/06, Aahz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was also discussion of a change to the way quit works in interactive mode. I see no record of it, so I guess that's not going in, either. It's already in 2.5a2, if I'm thinking of the same thing you

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-09 Thread Thomas Wouters
On 6/9/06, Aahz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2006, Paul Moore wrote: On 6/9/06, Aahz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was also discussion of a change to the way quit works in interactive mode.I see no record of it, so I guess that's not going in, either. It's already in 2.5a2, if I'm

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-09 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 07:28:47AM -0700, Aahz wrote: Okay, I guess I mis-remembered what had been agreed to. Should this go into What's New? Already there: http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/other-lang.html#SECTION000131. (Fred, is it possible to set the anchors used for

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-09 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Friday 09 June 2006 10:28, Guido van Rossum wrote: Really? The old situation is really evil, and the new approach is at least marginally better by giving users a way to migrate to a new non-evil approach. What exactly is the backwards incompatibility you speak of? The incompatibility

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 issues need resolving in a few days

2006-06-09 Thread Jeremy Hylton
I will be looking at the open AST issues today. Jeremy On 6/9/06, Neal Norwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The most important outstanding issue is the xmlplus/xmlcore issue. It's not going to get fixed unless someone works on it. There's only a few days left before beta 1. Can someone please