Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-06 Thread Ethan Furman
On 03/04/2014 06:46 PM, Larry Hastings wrote: On 03/04/2014 03:59 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: I too would like an rc3, especially to see if issue 19021 can be fixed, which I suspect will hit a lot of people. I talked to the other guys on the 3.4 team, and we're all willing to do an rc3 this

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 5 Mar 2014 12:48, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote: On 03/04/2014 03:59 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: I too would like an rc3, especially to see if issue 19021 can be fixed, which I suspect will hit a lot of people. I talked to the other guys on the 3.4 team, and we're all willing to

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-05 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 05/03/2014 03:46, Larry Hastings a écrit : On 03/04/2014 03:59 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: I too would like an rc3, especially to see if issue 19021 can be fixed, which I suspect will hit a lot of people. I talked to the other guys on the 3.4 team, and we're all willing to do an rc3 this

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 6 Mar 2014 01:32, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: Le 05/03/2014 03:46, Larry Hastings a écrit : On 03/04/2014 03:59 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: I too would like an rc3, especially to see if issue 19021 can be fixed, which I suspect will hit a lot of people. I talked to the other

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread martin
Quoting Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com: If you don't want to do an rc3 despite the cherry picked changes since rc2, then you need to make it easy for people to test the changes directly from the release branch. An opaque intermittently updated tarball is not acceptable when none of our

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 March 2014 20:16, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Quoting Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com: If you don't want to do an rc3 despite the cherry picked changes since rc2, then you need to make it easy for people to test the changes directly from the release branch. An opaque intermittently

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, 2014-03-03 22:38 GMT+01:00 Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com: Related question - have you decided yet whether or not to do an rc3? I take a look at current release blocker issues for Python 3.4. I saw bugfixes (ex: upgrade SQLite from 3.8.3 to 3.8.3.1) but also fixes for regressions between

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 11:16:41 +0100 mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Quoting Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com: If you don't want to do an rc3 despite the cherry picked changes since rc2, then you need to make it easy for people to test the changes directly from the release branch. An opaque

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 11:16:41 +0100 mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Quoting Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com: If you don't want to do an rc3 despite the cherry picked changes since rc2, then you need to make it easy

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 04.03.2014 15:52, schrieb Brett Cannon: I have also filed http://bugs.python.org/issue20851 to make sure the devguide covers running tests from a tarball. If the way the release has been handled has still bugged you enough it can be discussed at the language summit, but it would be the

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 5 Mar 2014 08:15, Matthias Klose d...@ubuntu.com wrote: Am 04.03.2014 15:52, schrieb Brett Cannon: I have also filed http://bugs.python.org/issue20851 to make sure the devguide covers running tests from a tarball. If the way the release has been handled has still bugged you enough it

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 05, 2014, at 09:24 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: I think it's also the fact that new feature releases are rare and changes of release manager even more so, meaning there's a fair bit of relearning involved every time (since what was appropriate a couple of years earlier may not be appropriate

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-04 Thread Larry Hastings
On 03/04/2014 03:59 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: I too would like an rc3, especially to see if issue 19021 can be fixed, which I suspect will hit a lot of people. I talked to the other guys on the 3.4 team, and we're all willing to do an rc3 this weekend. I'll add that to PEP 429. In other

[Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, I would like to know if the cherry-picking rule still applies for Python 3.4 final? Can I open an issue if I want to see a changeset in the final version? I'm asking for a typo in tracemalloc documentation: http://bugs.python.org/issue20814 http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/a9058b772807

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Larry Hastings
On 03/03/2014 03:01 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: Hi, I would like to know if the cherry-picking rule still applies for Python 3.4 final? Can I open an issue if I want to see a changeset in the final version? Sadly, yes. //arry/ ___ Python-Dev mailing

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Victor Stinner
2014-03-03 13:13 GMT+01:00 Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org: I would like to know if the cherry-picking rule still applies for Python 3.4 final? Can I open an issue if I want to see a changeset in the final version? Sadly, yes. Ok, I created: http://bugs.python.org/issue20843 Why do you

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Terry Reedy
On 3/3/2014 7:13 AM, Larry Hastings wrote: On 03/03/2014 03:01 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: Hi, I would like to know if the cherry-picking rule still applies for Python 3.4 final? Can I open an issue if I want to see a changeset in the final version? Sadly, yes. Doc changes appear online

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 03.03.2014 19:31, schrieb Terry Reedy: On 3/3/2014 7:13 AM, Larry Hastings wrote: On 03/03/2014 03:01 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: Hi, I would like to know if the cherry-picking rule still applies for Python 3.4 final? Can I open an issue if I want to see a changeset in the final version?

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Larry Hastings
On 03/03/2014 05:05 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: 2014-03-03 13:13 GMT+01:00 Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org: I would like to know if the cherry-picking rule still applies for Python 3.4 final? Can I open an issue if I want to see a changeset in the final version? Sadly, yes. Ok, I created:

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 Mar 2014 07:32, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote: On 03/03/2014 05:05 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: 2014-03-03 13:13 GMT+01:00 Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org: I would like to know if the cherry-picking rule still applies for Python 3.4 final? Can I open an issue if I want to see

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 03/03/2014 21:38, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 4 Mar 2014 07:32, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org mailto:la...@hastings.org wrote: On 03/03/2014 05:05 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: 2014-03-03 13:13 GMT+01:00 Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org mailto:la...@hastings.org: I would like to know

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 03, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: Will this impact on the decision http://bugs.python.org/issue20846 ? Issue 20808 is my own pet cherry pick for 3.4. -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Python-Dev mailing list

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Victor Stinner
Will this impact on the decision http://bugs.python.org/issue20846 ? This issue has been closed as wontfix. It has no patch and must be reported to pip, not python. Victor ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 Mar 2014 08:40, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 03/03/2014 21:38, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 4 Mar 2014 07:32, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org mailto:la...@hastings.org wrote: On 03/03/2014 05:05 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: 2014-03-03 13:13 GMT+01:00 Larry

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Larry Hastings
On 03/03/2014 01:38 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: Related question - have you decided yet whether or not to do an rc3? I ask, as I believe it would be good to give the folks like Mike Bayer and Armin Ronacher (who picked up test coverage gaps in rc2 via the Alembic and Flask test suites

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 March 2014 13:35, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote: On 03/03/2014 01:38 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: Related question - have you decided yet whether or not to do an rc3? I ask, as I believe it would be good to give the folks like Mike Bayer and Armin Ronacher (who picked up test

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Larry Hastings
On 03/03/2014 07:58 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: All of our development guides for testing against trunk are designed around running from a Mercurial checkout - it would *really* be whole lot easier for everyone else that is trying to test the release if you could just do a push from your release

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 March 2014 14:20, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote: On 03/03/2014 07:58 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: All of our development guides for testing against trunk are designed around running from a Mercurial checkout - it would *really* be whole lot easier for everyone else that is trying to

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Larry Hastings
On 03/03/2014 10:23 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: But at the moment you're making it *hard* for people to test the release, How? How is testing against a tarball fundamentally different from testing against an hg-cloned repository? I'm really not buying this. //arry/

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 March 2014 16:50, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote: On 03/03/2014 10:23 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: But at the moment you're making it *hard* for people to test the release, How? How is testing against a tarball fundamentally different from testing against an hg-cloned