2009/8/14 Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com:
Georg Brandl wrote:
Nick Coghlan schrieb:
P.S. For anyone else that is slow like me, take a close look at PEP 387...
What should we see, other than that we have two PEPs on the same topic that
should be merged?
Benjamin wrote the second one, so he
Antoine Pitrou:
After a fair amount of discussion on Rietveld, I think you should post another
patch without the deprecations.
(since the discussion was fairly long, I won't repeat here the reasons I gave
unless someone asks me to )
Besides, it would be nice to have the additional tests you
Georg Brandl wrote:
Nick Coghlan schrieb:
P.S. For anyone else that is slow like me, take a close look at PEP 387...
What should we see, other than that we have two PEPs on the same topic that
should be merged?
Benjamin wrote the second one, so he obviously knows there's a written
11 Aug 2009, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
2009/8/11 Jacob Rus:
I have some other questions: How does one deprecate part of a standard
library API? How can we alert users to the deprecation? When can the
deprecated parts be removed?
Basically, you add a DeprecationWarning to the API. Then remove
Nick Coghlan schrieb:
Nick Coghlan wrote:
Benjamin Peterson wrote:
rant
If python-dev was more interested, we would have a policy for this. *cough*
/rant
PEP 5 isn't enough? (I'll grant that PEP could probably do with
mentioning the use of warnings.warn(DeprecationWarning) explicitly, but
Benjamin Peterson wrote:
Then, you might garner some more reviews by putting your patch up on
Rietveld; it makes reviewing much painful.
... much _less_ painful, I hope!
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Benjamin Peterson wrote:
rant
If python-dev was more interested, we would have a policy for this. *cough*
/rant
PEP 5 isn't enough? (I'll grant that PEP could probably do with
mentioning the use of warnings.warn(DeprecationWarning) explicitly, but
the policy itself seems fine)
Cheers,
Nick.
Nick Coghlan wrote:
Benjamin Peterson wrote:
rant
If python-dev was more interested, we would have a policy for this. *cough*
/rant
PEP 5 isn't enough? (I'll grant that PEP could probably do with
mentioning the use of warnings.warn(DeprecationWarning) explicitly, but
the policy itself
Benjamin Peterson wrote:
It looks like you need to add some tests for the bugs you fixed to
test_mimetypes. While you're at it, you could improve that test
generally, since it's not exactly extensive.
Okay, I'll try to do this sometime in the next few days, if I get the chance.
Then, you
Glyph Lefkowitz wrote:
Jacob Rus wrote:
No, [changing the semantics in 3.x] is bad. If I may quote Guido:
http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=227041
So, once more for emphasis: Don't change your APIs at the same time as
porting to Py3k!
Please follow this policy as much as
Jacob Rus wrote:
Well, I've had some patches up at http://bugs.python.org/issue6626 for
over a week now, and my updated version should have identical
semantics to the current module, just with the module's *actual*
behavior clear to anyone reading the code, some serious edge-case bugs
fixed,
2009/8/11 Jacob Rus jacobo...@gmail.com:
I have some other questions: How does one deprecate part of a standard
library API? How can we alert users to the deprecation? When can the
deprecated parts be removed?
Basically, you add a DeprecationWarning to the API. Then remove it in
the next
Jacob Rus wrote:
Brett Cannon wrote:
Jacob Rus wrote:
At the very least, I
think some changes can be made to this code without altering its basic
function, which would clean up the actual mime types it returns,
comment the exceptions to Apache and explain why they're there, and
make the
Jacob Rus wrote:
Jacob Rus wrote:
Brett Cannon wrote:
Jacob Rus wrote:
At the very least, I
think some changes can be made to this code without altering its basic
function, which would clean up the actual mime types it returns,
comment the exceptions to Apache and explain why
2009/8/2 Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk:
[...]
In this version, tests would want to call the _init_singleton()
function to reset to defaults.
[...]
Please post the patches to the Python bug tracker:
http://bugs.python.org
Thanks
The patch you post should also patch the test
On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 23:37:18 -0700, Jacob Rus wrote:
Here is a somewhat more substantively changed version. This one does
away with the 'inited' flag and the 'init' function, which might be
impossible given that their documented (though I would be extremely
surprised if anyone calls them in
[It may be worth creating a patch; I think most of these comments
would be better on the bug-tracker.]
(1) In a few cases, it looked like you were changing parameter names
between files and filenames. This might break code that was
calling it with keyword arguments -- as I typically would for
Jim Jewett wrote:
[It may be worth creating a patch; I think most of these comments
would be better on the bug-tracker.]
I'm going to do that shortly.
(1) In a few cases, it looked like you were changing parameter names
between files and filenames. This might break code that was
calling
Robert Lehmann wrote:
Jacob Rus wrote:
Here is a somewhat more substantively changed version. This one does
away with the 'inited' flag and the 'init' function, which might be
impossible given that their documented (though I would be extremely
surprised if anyone calls them in third-party
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Jacob Rus jacobo...@gmail.com wrote:
Robert Lehmann wrote:
Jacob Rus wrote:
Here is a somewhat more substantively changed version. This one does
away with the 'inited' flag and the 'init' function, which might be
impossible given that their documented
Brett Cannon wrote:
Jacob Rus wrote:
At the very least, I
think some changes can be made to this code without altering its basic
function, which would clean up the actual mime types it returns,
comment the exceptions to Apache and explain why they're there, and
make the code flow
Jacob Rus wrote:
Here's a diff:
http://pastie.textmate.org/568329
And here's the whole file:
http://pastie.textmate.org/568333
Slightly better:
http://pastie.textmate.org/568354
http://pastie.textmate.org/568355
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Hi all,
In an attempt to figure out some twisted.web code, I was reading
through the Python Standard Library’s mimetypes module today, and
was shocked at the poor quality of the code. I wonder how the
mimetypes code made it into the standard library, and whether anyone
has ever bothered to read
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 14:16, Jacob Rus jacobo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
In an attempt to figure out some twisted.web code, I was reading
through the Python Standard Library’s mimetypes module today, and
was shocked at the poor quality of the code. I wonder how the
mimetypes code made it
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 09:16:02PM +, Jacob Rus wrote:
* The operation is crazy: It defines a MimeTypes class which
actually stores the type mappings, but this class is designed to
be a singleton. The way that such a design is enforced is
through the use of the
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 at 15:17, Brett Cannon wrote:
* It creates a _default_mime_types() function which declares a
bunch of global variables, and then immediately calls
_default_mime_types() below the definition. There is literally
no difference in result between this and just putting
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 15:38, Jacob Rus jacobo...@gmail.com wrote:
Brett Cannon wrote:
Jacob Rus wrote:
* It defines __all__: I didn’t even realize __all__ could be used
for single-file modules (w/o submodules), but it definitely
shouldn’t be here.
__all__ is used to control
Brett Cannon wrote:
* It creates a _default_mime_types() function which declares a
bunch of global variables, and then immediately calls
_default_mime_types() below the definition. There is literally
no difference in result between this and just putting those
variables at the top
Brett Cannon wrote:
Jacob Rus wrote:
* It defines __all__: I didn’t even realize __all__ could be used
for single-file modules (w/o submodules), but it definitely
shouldn’t be here.
__all__ is used to control what a module exports when used in an import *,
nothing more. Thus it's use
Jacob Rus wrote:
Okay. Well I'd still like to hear a bit about what people really need
before trying to make a new API.
Try asking some specific question on python-list.
How to you use the stdlib mimetypes module?
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