Greetings list,
> Then I would suggest starting a new thread,
Long overdue i guess. My view on the topic is like
Mr Moore with the exception that i'm for native
capabilities to be in the stdlib. Since Zipapp does
not seem to go the C-extension route, i propose
a new tool that turn projects into i
>From "[Distutils] pip and missing shared system system library"
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/distutils-...@python.org/message/7TCZJT2RDE36BJKUDU6JVTIUYHGVDVQY/
:
> Existing workarounds for building and distributing portable binaries:
>
> W/ shared library dependencies:
> - auditwheel & m
As discussed earlier on the post on 'Circular Indexing', considering
interpreting indices that lie outside the range 0 to n-1 modulo n for list
indexing. Thus element n corresponds to element 0, n+1 to element 1 and so on.
This has two consequences:
1.) Makes the Python convention of interpret
On 11/20/20 8:41 PM, Brendan Barnwell wrote:
On 2020-11-20 01:51, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
If that's really what you want, you probably should look at making a way
to run Python apps in the browser. Everyone has an OS, everyone has a
browser, GUI browsers have similar looking look-and-feels, the
On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 at 09:30, Ronald Oussoren via Python-ideas
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> > On 20 Nov 2020, at 16:42, Ricky Teachey wrote:
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> > I was reading the pyinstaller thread and had this idea but didn't want to
> > hijack.
> >
> > Maybe a wild idea, and very possible totally impractical or hopeles
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 12:03 PM Brendan Barnwell wrote:
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> On 2020-11-24 16:47, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 10:29 AM Brendan Barnwell
> > wrote:
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> >> On 2020-11-24 00:05, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I'm still confused what the point is of a zipapp, if it
On 2020-11-25 00:42, Greg Ewing wrote:
On 25/11/20 12:14 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
If you want a perfectly out-of-the-box app, you're probably
going to have to stick to Tkinter.
Which is only bundled with Python on Windows, as far
as I know.
It's also bundled with Python on Raspbian.
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On 2020-11-24 16:47, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 10:29 AM Brendan Barnwell wrote:
On 2020-11-24 00:05, Chris Angelico wrote:
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>> >I'm still confused what the point is of a zipapp, if it can't be a proper
point and click GUI thing, and it can't use any compiled extensions
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 10:29 AM Brendan Barnwell wrote:
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> On 2020-11-24 00:05, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> >
> >> >I'm still confused what the point is of a zipapp, if it can't be a proper
> >> >point and click GUI thing, and it can't use any compiled extensions. How
> >> >it is it better than
On 25/11/20 12:14 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
If you want a perfectly out-of-the-box app, you're probably
going to have to stick to Tkinter.
Which is only bundled with Python on Windows, as far
as I know.
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On 25/11/20 11:48 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
In a language without declarations, how do you know that something is
unused?
Personally, I don't mind if I have to *tell* it what I'm
using. I don't insist on the stripping-out being automatic,
and I would actually prefer it not to be.
To support t
On 2020-11-24 00:05, Chris Angelico wrote:
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>I'm still confused what the point is of a zipapp, if it can't be a proper
point and click GUI thing, and it can't use any compiled extensions. How it is it
better than a console_script and a pip-installed package??
>
It CAN be a proper point-and-cl
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 10:13 AM Greg Ewing wrote:
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> On 24/11/20 9:05 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > It CAN be a proper point-and-click GUI thing. You can have a fully
> > executable Python script if it has no dependencies (just distribute a
> > single .py file with a shebang at the top) ...
>
>
On 24/11/20 9:05 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
It CAN be a proper point-and-click GUI thing. You can have a fully
executable Python script if it has no dependencies (just distribute a
single .py file with a shebang at the top) ...
But to most people a "proper point and click GUI thing"
includes hav
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 11:56:47AM +1300, Greg Ewing wrote:
> On 22/11/20 4:31 pm, Christopher Barker wrote:
> >unfortunately, that's not how most python packages are set up -- you
> >install the whole thing at once. As an example, it's really tricky to
> >use even one function from scipy without
On 11/24/20 2:36 PM, Mathew M. Noel via Python-ideas wrote:
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> Python uses an index of -1 to index the last element in a list. Since
> -1 occurs before 0 we might think of the elements of the linear list
> are being bent into a circle making the last element occur before the
> 0th element. Conside
I believe this would be simple to implement when it's needed by subclassing
`collections.UserList` and wrapping this functionality around
`__getitem__`, `__setitem__`, and `__delitem__`.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 2:38 PM Mathew M. Noel via Python-ideas <
python-ideas@python.org> wrote:
> Python uses
November 24, 2020 2:36 PM, "Mathew M. Noel via Python-ideas"
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This feature can prove to be extremely useful. It can also prove to be
extremely dangerous. "list index out of range" errors can
Python uses an index of -1 to index the last element in a list. Since -1 occurs
before 0 we might think of the elements of the linear list are being bent into
a circle making the last element occur before the 0th element. Consider a list
with n elements: it would be perfectly reasonable to addre
> On 24 Nov 2020, at 11:58, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
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> On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 10:23:10 +
> Paul Moore wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at 10:18, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 08:09:07 +
>>> Paul Moore wrote:
But it's not as limiting as you suggest - it *doe
I was thinking about the "Load JSON file as single line" thread from a bit
back, and had an idea for a neat solution, albeit one that has potential
stylistic issues.
Idea:
Create two new methods on pathlib.Path objects:
Path.load(loader, **kwargs)
and
Path.dump(dumper, obj, **kwargs)
Her
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 10:23:10 +
Paul Moore wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at 10:18, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 08:09:07 +
> > Paul Moore wrote:
> > >
> > > But it's not as limiting as you suggest - it *does* preclude most
> > > scientific use (because of numpy etc)
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at 10:18, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
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> On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 08:09:07 +
> Paul Moore wrote:
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> > But it's not as limiting as you suggest - it *does* preclude most
> > scientific use (because of numpy etc) but (for example) a large number
> > of web libraries are pure Python.
On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 08:09:07 +
Paul Moore wrote:
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> But it's not as limiting as you suggest - it *does* preclude most
> scientific use (because of numpy etc) but (for example) a large number
> of web libraries are pure Python.
Not sure what you mean here, but while Web frameworks themselves
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at 07:47, Christopher Barker wrote:
> indeed I am. But also, where I need this sort of thing is for desktop GUIs
> (wxPython in my case), another heavy user of compiled extensions.
>
> I'm still confused what the point is of a zipapp, if it can't be a proper
> point and click
On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 6:47 PM Christopher Barker wrote:
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> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 12:09 AM Paul Moore wrote:
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>> On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 at 03:37, Christopher Barker wrote:
>> > My feeling is that it hits middle ground that isn't very useful. If you
>> > can count on your users having a prope
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