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> On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 at 06:43, Dom Grigonis wrote:
[skip]
> > https://q5yitzu62.supersurvey.com
>
> Your second example needs a "both are abhorrently unreadable" option.
+1
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> ChrisA
declare package "X" to be replacement
for package "y". I cannot declare "y" is outdated by "X".
It doesn't have post-install and pre-uninstall scripts. Post-install
can be implemented for sdists but not for wheels.
> ChrisA
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pe operator (|). I
> like it a lot. It reminds me of pathlib.Path (which is a wonderful tool),
> with its slash operator overload.
The idea is quite standard now. See
https://pypi.org/project/shell-pipes/
https://pypi.org/search/?q=shell+pipes
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> (If the answer is for me - pity it lacks any context.)
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:51:06PM -, adelf...@gmail.com wrote:
> > This follows the example of str.startswith/str.endswith, but yes, it could
>
ce(pat, string) else pat # Assume ``pat`` is an
iterable
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> Issue: https://bugs.python.org/issue41429
> PR: https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/21666
Why it must be a tuple and not an iterable? Not even a list?
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> users. Thank you.
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See https://docs.python.org/3/reference/datamodel.html#special-method-names
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ve missed what harm you think it will do to add a flag to zip.
> Can you point me to your objection?
This in how it is in the html part:
Adding a flag to zip does not.http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/";
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
My html
ited, until I realised
> > it was just the trigonometric function :-(
> >
> > This is the gunslinger.draw versus the artist.draw problem.
>
> It should be solved by the random.draw solution (which calls one
> or the other, randomly ;-)).
But only on
o functools that:
> 1. Has a C implementation, keeping the speed on-par with `lru_cache()`
> 2. Ensures that the wrapped function is only called once when invoked by
> multiple threads
>
> For some related discussion about this idea and lru_cache, please see my
> th
forms and procedure
> to perform experiment with domestic felines.
AFAICS felines when performing experiments on people who thinks
they're "owners" ignore any procedures.
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> >
> > launches python3 on windows and python2 on 99% of the unix market.
> >
> > The command
> >
> > python3 myscript.py
>
> The windows version would be
>
> py myscript.py
That is, **in addition** to ``python`` and ``python3`` Fred shou
ts in venvs automatically (pipsi and pipx).
Once a venv is activated there is no need to remember different commands
-- it's always ``python`` and ``pip``. In all operating systems. It's
what the OP wants, right?
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On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 11:30:38AM +1100, Steven D'Aprano
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> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:45:42AM +0100, Oleg Broytman wrote:
>
> > > Won't that create a virtual environment using Python3 on Windows and
> > > using Python2 most other places, wh
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:22:28AM +1100, Steven D'Aprano
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> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 08:09:57PM +0100, Oleg Broytman wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 05:59:41PM -, Fr??d??ric De Jaeger
> > wrote:
> > > The issue is: There is no reliable
nd activate a virtual environment (``virtualenv`` or
``python -m venv``) and always use ``python myscript.py``.
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is fine, but people will call it multiple times.
> >
> > Would it help if it were called "one" instead of "first"?
>
> That would be my preference.
take_one()? takeone()? take1()?
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> eyes/noggin than counting out the individual `break` statements.
This is very much error-prone because on any refactoring (increasing
or decreasing the number of loop levels) one must increase/decrease all
numbers in internal loops.
Labels are at least stable.
> Eli
Oleg
)? Is the object
> > to the extra typing, or...?
> >
>
> Or discoverability. If you want to run a subprocess and catch its
> output, you'll naturally reach for check_output, and it feels clunkier
> to have to use run() instead.
>
> +1 on adding a nice simple
t; l.sort() sorts in-place, while sorted(l) returns a sorted copy.
Then shouldn't it be a function (not a method)? dictutils.merge()?
> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
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just
>
> if settings[MY_KEY]:
> ...
Three-way (tri state) checkbox. You have to distinguish False and
None if the possible valuse are None, False and True.
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d2` when there are overlapping keys. I propose to
> make d2 win in this case, which is what happens in `d1.update(d2)` anyways.
> If you want it the other way, simply write `d2 + d1`.
That is, ``d1 + d2`` is::
d = d1.copy()
d.update(d2)
return d
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stuff
> turned off, and the rest hidden behind cryptic keystroke commands.
shopt -s cmdhist
From ``man bash``: "If set, bash attempts to save all lines of a
multiple-line command in the same history entry. This allows easy
re-editing of multi-line commands."
>
On Sun, Feb 03, 2019 at 02:52:31AM +0100, Oleg Broytman wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 02, 2019 at 07:37:56PM -0500, Terry Reedy
> wrote:
> > On 2/2/2019 8:13 AM, Oleg Broytman wrote:
> > > > IDLE does this.
> > >
> > > For the question "Does Python
On Sat, Feb 02, 2019 at 07:37:56PM -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 2/2/2019 8:13 AM, Oleg Broytman wrote:
> > > IDLE does this.
> >
> > For the question "Does Python REPL need more batteries?" is your
> > answer "No, just point people to IDLE&quo
gt;
> (Of course, a script could format its own error messages, say by using
> terminal-specific colour codes.)
Scripts that report errors this way are broken and must be fixed:
print("sorry, an error occurred", file=sys.stderr)
Now it's easy to separat
On Sat, Feb 02, 2019 at 02:10:06PM +1100, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 09:31:21PM +0100, Oleg Broytman wrote:
>
> >Python REPL is missing the following batteries:
> >
> > * Persistent history;
>
> On Linux/Unix systems, that has
On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 08:43:53PM -0600, eryk sun wrote:
> On 2/1/19, Terry Reedy wrote:
> > On 2/1/2019 3:31 PM, Oleg Broytman wrote:
> >
> >> Python REPL is missing the following batteries:
> >> * Persistent history;
>
> Python's built-in REPL r
On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 08:40:22PM -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 2/1/2019 3:31 PM, Oleg Broytman wrote:
>
> > Python REPL is missing the following batteries:
>
> That is why, on Windows, I nearly always use IDLE.
>
> > * Persistent history;
>
> IDLE's
On Sat, Feb 02, 2019 at 07:45:43AM +1100, Chris Angelico
wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 7:32 AM Oleg Broytman wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 03:12:42PM -0500, Terry Reedy
> > wrote:
> > > On 2/1/2019 1:50 PM, James Lu wrote:
> > > > It??
output and errors;
* Paging of very long output/errors.
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een an eager or lazy access
>
> Before going further, I would like to know whether implementing lazy access
> through the hash table that way seems to be a interesting improvement or a
> dead end.
Well, I mus admit my .po/.mo aren't that big. The biggest .po is 60k,
its correspond
s.
> -gps
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On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 09:05:33AM -0400, "Mark E. Haase"
wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:09 AM Oleg Broytman wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 01:46:10PM +0400, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer <
> > arj.pyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > i miss a
nhangeer
> https://github.com/abdur-rahmaanj
> Mauritius
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chnical terms that carry dark
meanings: "abort", "kill" and "execute" (stop the genocide!)
Not sure about "terminate".
There are also nationalist jokes about Dutchs. That also must be
stopped!
Let's decide how to replace them and who'll s
s trolling on the trail of
https://bugs.python.org/issue34605
3. The name of a Canadian actress combined with Russian free email
service made the suspicion more obvious.
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er-the-top to you now, because times change, and this will be of great
> > help in the battle for the more tolerant and less judgemental society.
> >
> > I understand that this topic may seem controversial to some, so please be
> > open-minded and take extra care to respect the P
open-minded and take extra care to respect the PSF Code Of Conduct when
>replying.
>Thank you!
>б═ - Sam
>Some references:
>https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Lookism
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lookism
Nice trolling, go on! :-D
PS. But p
develop something of value that can be added to the
> tutorial.
>
> Is there a forum, better than python-ideas, for discussing speculative
> ideas for improving Python's documentation?
In what way certification programs are related to documentation,
especially to the tutorial?
&
guage and the
implementation.
> thanks
>
> Patrick
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case). As '.name' is a valid domain hotmail decided that
unicodedata.name is a host name. And "URLified" it, so to say.
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On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:22:45AM -0700, Brendan Barnwell
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> If anything, I think the name "re" is too short
> and cryptic and should be made longer!
import re as regular_expressions_operations
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On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:12:34AM -0700, Brendan Barnwell
wrote:
> as we all know, namespaces are one
> honking great idea!
Flat is better than nested, so additional string.re subnamespace is
not needed.
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n implementation (regex,
re2). How to make ``s.search(pattern)`` work with all of them?
> Thoughts?
> Sincerely,
> Ken;
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d entry.path
So anyone who wants to filter os.walk() must reimplement os.walk()
themselves instead of passing something like filter_dir and filter_file
(or accept_dir/accept_file) to os.walk()? Kind of painful, no?
> Cheers,
> Yuval
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e ownership and permissions; restoring permissions is not
always possible, restoring ownership is almost never possible. Renaming
is also not always possible due to restricted directory permissions.
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 8:19 AM, Oleg Broytman wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 0
uper.backup()`,
cleanup backuper and unlock locker?
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On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 01:18:06AM +1100, Steven D'Aprano
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> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 02:31:58PM +0100, Oleg Broytman wrote:
> >Once I stumbled over a bug caused by this in legacy code in
> > production. Fixing it was quite painful!
>
> Did you mean that *fi
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 03:09:28PM +0100, Stephan Houben
wrote:
> Note that this has already been proposed and rejected before:
>
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3126/
Not the same. The current proposal is to discourage, not remove the
misfeature.
> Stephan
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> expression. I wish I could say it was a record for me.) Should we
> "discourage" exponentiation and dict displays and insist on writing
> dict((y, x*x*x)) to avoid the risk of errors? I don't think so.
We should fix what ca
mistake and
rather hard to find.
> (and even making the static analysers, like pyflakes or pylint, to
> show that as a warning)
>
> Note that there's no penalty in adding the '+' between the strings,
> those are resolved at compilation time.
>
&g
m/zzzeek/sqlalchemy/search?l=Python&q=where&type=&utf8=%E2%9C%93
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medium and code is created the
other groups will feel they have been singled out and their ideas were
ignored.
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Oops, sorry, fixed.
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 05:18:43PM -0500, Alex Walters
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> "This page was intentionally left blank."
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Python-ideas [mailto:python-ideas-bounces+tritium-
> > list=sdamon....@python.org] O
I've invested a lot of
resources to learn and configure my tools.
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noqa') but not for runtime behavior.
That is, you don't like ``# coding:`` directive? ;-)
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x -- by having versioned
executables: python27.exe, python35.exe? Then python.exe in PATH will be
from the most recent installed Python.
> Paul
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talled Python on
Windows is equivalen to a user-compiled Python on Linux -- pip installs
packages to the user-owned site-packages directory.
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alue):
Why ``assign`` and not ``set``?
> Each thread of the Python interpreter keeps its on stack of
"its own", I think.
> ``contextvars.Assignment`` objects, each having a pointer to the previous
> (outer) assignment like in a linked list.
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et and maybe a patch if people think this is a good
> little enhancement
Definitely a good idea!
> Cheers
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; mechanism gets in place, as it will add a
> lot to the REPL nature of the testing/experimenting process.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your time,
>
> John Torakis, IT Security Researcher
>
>
>
> P.S: It is my first time in this mailing list and generally
@ -439,6 +439,7 @@ def _default_mime_types():
> '.jpeg' : 'image/jpeg',
> '.jpg': 'image/jpeg',
> '.js' : 'application/javascript',
> +'.json' : 'application/js
Hi, All!
On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 04:22:31PM +, Brett Cannon wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017, 10:38 Koos Zevenhoven, wrote:
> > On Jun 30, 2017 5:16 PM, "Oleg Broytman" wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 12:09:52PM -0300, "Soni L."
> > wrot
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 12:09:52PM -0300, "Soni L."
wrote:
> CPython should get a
You're welcome to create one. Go on, send your pull requests!
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On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 03:10:08PM +0200, "Sven R. Kunze"
wrote:
> '+' is the perfect concat operator. I love Python for this feature.
+1 from me
> Regards,
> Sven
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https://github.com/sqlobject/sqlobject/blob/master/sqlobject/postgres/pgconnection.py#L7
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em to solve, and besides,
> "explicit is better than implicit".
>
> It also doesn't really work well for the case where you want to blindly
> create new assignment targets for
> *every* key, but:
>
> - my recollection is that nobody really came up with a convincing
Op 5 jun. 2017 11:59 schreef "Greg Ewing" :
>
> > Stephan Houben wrote:
> >
> >> What about just adding the -I (isolated mode) flag to the #! line of
> >> installed scripts?
> >>
> >
> > Not all unix systems support passing extr
in/env - yes. In case of #!/usr/bin/python -
combined one-letter arguments can be passed.
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Unfortunately we can't use ???, ??? and √ as identifiers. :-(
-1. "There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it."
And -1 for non-ascii in stdlib.
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On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 07:39:36PM +0200, "Sven R. Kunze"
wrote:
> It took me 5 days to see "foo = attrib()" in "foo = attr.ib()" What the
> hell means "ib"? ...
Guido has named it "deadly cute". (-:
> Sven
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> to copy code every time I need to ignore files.
Why not create a package and publish at PyPI? Then all you need is
pip install fnmatch_filter_false
in your virtual env.
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>
> For a specific proposal, see:
>
> https://gist.github.com/topper-123/85e27ffe261850eed150eac53d61b82d
>
> Because it's just a logger, log_reader can be further customized as
> necessary.
>
> In summary, I think tha
On Fri, May 05, 2017 at 04:50:07PM +0200, George Fischhof
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> yes, something like that ... ;-) but I use windows, and I want the feature
> in Python, with a simple and elegant way (1-2 commands)
>
> 2017-05-05 16:14 GMT+02:00 Oleg Broytman :
>
> > On Fri, May 05, 201
On Fri, May 05, 2017 at 03:55:37PM +0200, George Fischhof
wrote:
> Actually it would be good if copytree() would be able to overwrite files
> and directories.
Seems you want rsync, no?
> George
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ctions symmetric.
Why impose artificial symmetry?
> BR,
> George
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> def _set_multiple(self, **kwargs):
> for key, value in kwargs.items():
> setattr(self, key, value)
self.__dict__.update(kwargs)
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On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 07:26:29AM -0500, Alex Walters
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> Is there any reason not to change...
Do not change things that work for the sake of a change. Isn't it a
good reason?
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On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 06:14:58PM -0500, Random832
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> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 13:13, Oleg Broytman wrote:
> >Works for me as expected:
> >
> > $ echo $LC_CTYPE
> > ru_RU.KOI8-R
> >
> > $ LC_MESSAGES=ru_RU.KOI8-R mc
> >
> >mc
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 01:04:43PM -0500, Random832
wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017, at 12:10, Victor Stinner wrote:
> > 2017-01-12 17:10 GMT+01:00 Oleg Broytman :
> > >> Does it work to use a locale with encoding A for LC_CTYPE and a locale
> > >> with encoding B
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 06:10:35PM +0100, Victor Stinner
wrote:
> 2017-01-12 17:10 GMT+01:00 Oleg Broytman :
> >> Does it work to use a locale with encoding A for LC_CTYPE and a locale
> >> with encoding B for LC_MESSAGES (and others)? Is there a risk of
> >
> >
jibake? Or do we expect that the POSIX locale speaks ASCII, and so
> it should work for use UTF-8 for LC_CTYPE since UTF-8 is able to
> decode messages encoded ASCII?
That works for me:
$ echo $LC_CTYPE
ru_RU.UTF-8
$ echo $LC_COLLATE
ru_RU.UTF-8
$ echo $LANG
C
$ date
Thu Jan 12 19:06:
://docs.python.org/3/faq/design.html#why-does-
> > python-use-methods-for-some-functionality-e-g-list-index-
> > but-functions-for-other-e-g-len-list>`_
> > >
> > > for more detail.
> > >
> >
> > I d
calls>`_
> for more detail.
If one thinks that ``self`` is too long and tedious to write she can
use ``s`` instead.
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y that encode/decode filenames.
> I think people using non UTF-8 should solve encoding issue by themselves.
> People should use ASCII or UTF-8 always if they don't want to see mojibake.
Impossible. Even if I'd always use UTF-8 I still will receive a lot
of cp1251/cp866.
Oleg.
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I have to
deal with file names and content in different encodings.
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platform is more important than consistency between platforms, and other
w32 console programs understand [Ctrl]+[Z] as EOF and as far as I know
only [Ctrl]+[Z].
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> Steve
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ss Mutual1:
def spam(self, x=None):
if x is None:
x = Mutual2
print(type(x))
class Mutual2:
def spam(self):
pass
Mutual1().spam()
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F only at the start of an input.
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Hi!
On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 11:51:16AM +0100, Jo??o Matos
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like to suggest adding a clear command (not function) to Python.
Pressing [Ctrl]+[L] works for me.
> Best regards,
> JM
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textual.
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er but to
communicate on a phone?
> ~~Arkadiusz Bulski~~
>
> Od: Arkadiusz Bulski
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