Robert Brewer wrote:
> Bengt Richter wrote:
> > The '::' unary suite operator should return an ordered dict
> > subtype representing the bindings
>
> Why ordered?
Because You can't otherwise guarantee to feed optional argument
parameters in a correct way.
Example:
x = property(*seq) where:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:25:00 -0700, Brian Sabbey
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You can already do this, this way.
>>
> def f(thunk):
>> ... before()
>> ... thunk()
>> ... after()
>> ...
> def before():
>> ... print 'before'
>> ...
> def after():
>> ... print 'after'
Consider the following class:
class Node(object):
def __init__(self, name, parent=None):
self.name = name
self.parent = parent
def _ancestors(self, ants=None):
if ants is None:
ants = []
else:
ants.insert(0, self.name)
if sel
Take a look at Nick Coglan's "with" proposal:
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?selm=mailman.403.1105274631.22381.python-list%40python.org
It addresses many of the same issues (e.g. easy definition of
properties). It is more general, though: while your proposal only
applies to keyword arguments i
Bengt Richter wrote:
> The '::' unary suite operator should return an ordered dict
> subtype representing the bindings
Why ordered?
Robert Brewer
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Bengt Richter wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 01:10:47 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) wrote:
> [...]
> >
> >The "::" expression I'm proposing generalizes capturing suite
bindings into an ordered sequence of (key,value)
> >tuples, like an ordered vars().items() limited to the bindings
produced
Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>M.E.Farmer wrote at 23:18 4/14/2005:
>>Nice collection of unix tools, Cygwin not needed.
>>http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/
>
>Thank you!
>
>But a question. I've download both UnxUtils.zip and UnxUpdates.zip. I'm
>planning to put the contents of UnxUtils.zi
Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>># Reading/writing Python source often gives me the impression of
>># reading/writing a poem!
>># Layout, indentation, rythm, I like the look and feel!
>>
>># What does this tiny program do? It is not a sonnet, even not a
>># pi-sonnet, but it surely produ
Thanks Jean,
I have thought about adding docstrings several times, but I was stumped
at how to determine a docstring from a regular tripleqoted string ;)
I have been thinking hard about the problem and I think I have an idea.
If the line has nothing before the start of the string it must be a
docst
Check this out: http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/
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has anyone used or installed this on fbsd
the install for it is totally redundant. i get this error for it
make -f freebsd.mak clean all test
cd ../Source && make -f pysvn_freebsd_py.mak clean
make: cannot open pysvn_freebsd_py.mak.
*** Error code 2
Stop in /usr/home/timothy/pysvn-1.1.2/Extension/B
Maurice LING wrote:
Hi Thomas,
It seems that you've cleanly killed the Apple-installed Python, which
isn't too bad a thing after all. What I can suggest you do is this...
Copy the entire /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework directory
from someone and drop it into your system (same place o
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 01:10:47 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) wrote:
[...]
>
>The "::" expression I'm proposing generalizes capturing suite bindings into an
>ordered sequence of (key,value)
>tuples, like an ordered vars().items() limited to the bindings produced in the
>suite following "::"
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:01:56 -0700, Brian Sabbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote:
>> Brian Sabbey wrote:
>>> Here is a pre-PEP for what I call "suite-based keyword arguments". The
>>> mechanism described here is intended to act as a complement to thunks.
>>> Please let me kno
Willem Ligtenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to parse a very large (2.4 gig) XML file (bioinformatics
> ofcourse :)) But I have no clue how to do that. Most things I see read
> the entire xml file at once. That isn't going to work here ofcourse.
>
> So I would like to parse a XML file one
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 13:58:38 -0700, Brian Sabbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
>
>Yes, my description of the syntax was ambiguous. To clarify, I intended
>the syntax to be backwardly compatible. That is, one would not be able to
>use a suite to define keywords if there already exists a suit
Hi Thomas,
It seems that you've cleanly killed the Apple-installed Python, which
isn't too bad a thing after all. What I can suggest you do is this...
Copy the entire /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework directory
from someone and drop it into your system (same place of course). I will
n
Bengt Richter wrote:
Good background on thunks can be found in ref. [1].
UIAM most of that pre-dates decorators. What is the relation of thunks
to decorators and/or how might they interact?
Hmm, I think you answered this below better than I could ;).
def f(thunk):
before()
thunk()
after()
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:02:32 -0700, Brian Sabbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Bengt Richter wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:32:02 -0700, James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Examples
Using suite-based keyword arguments, the code
f(x = 1)
is equiv
Solved it. Instead of modifying Replacer class, I've made another class
which initiates a list of Replacer objects from a list of substitution
rule files. And then iterates through the list of Replacer objects and
calls upon their own substitute() method. It seems to work.
Thanks for all your a
On 16 Apr 2005 09:07:09 -0700, "Kay Schluehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The idea is interesting but not unambigously realizable. Maybe one
>should introduce some extra syntax for disambiguation and thereby
>generalize the proposal.
This is intriguing. I am reminded of trailing "where x is someth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Keep in mind that most of the problems come from the "space is
significant" thing, which is IMHO a very good idea, but prevents us from
putting code in expressions, like :
func( a,b, def callback( x ):
print x
)
or does it ? maybe this s
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005, Ron_Adam wrote:
Thunks are, as far as this PEP is concerned, anonymous functions that
blend into their environment. They can be used in ways similar to code
blocks in Ruby or Smalltalk. One specific use of thunks is as a way to
abstract acquire/release code. Another use is as a
Leif K-Brooks wrote:
Brian Sabbey wrote:
Thunk statements contain a new keyword, 'do', as in the example below. The
body of the thunk is the suite in the 'do' statement; it gets passed to the
function appearing next to 'do'. The thunk gets inserted as the first
argument to the function, reminisc
You need to look at the re module.
>>> import re
>>> dir(re)
>>> re.split('A|a', 'A big Fat CAt')
['', ' big F', 't C', 't']
Then google around for a regular expression tutorial...
jw
On 4/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All,
>
> I have been going through the manual
Hi,
Importing a text file from another o.s. is not a problem : I convert
it immediately using the powerful shell functions of Linux (and Unix).
I thank you for the explanation about classes, but I am rather dumb
and
by now I resolved all my problems without them...
Speaking of problems..., I have
The readline module (used e.g. in IPython)
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82407
provides the Console.py
script and in my own version of it, the (extended)
Console() class supports any ANSI escape
sequences of the form ESC[#m and ESC[#,#m ,
making it possible to set any by con
Ivan Van Laningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Of course I wouldn't base decisions _only_ on whether or not [PYTHON]
> appears in the subject. But I ordinarily do base decisions on the whole
> subject line, and I think that's perfectly reasonable. There's nothing
> else to go on without opening
Ross Cowie napisał(a):
I am currenly a second year university student and was wondering if you
could help me ut. As part of a project i have decided to write about
python, i am not having very much luck with regards to finding
infrmation on pythons use in Rapid Application Development, and was
Shane Hathaway wrote:
I like this PEP a lot, but your concern is valid. Maybe Brian could
modify the PEP slightly to disambiguate. How about using an ellipsis in
the argument list to signify suite-based keywords? Examples:
f(...):
x = 1
class C(object):
x = property(...):
doc = "I'm
Nicolas Fleury wrote:
> Shane Hathaway wrote:
> > I like this PEP a lot, but your concern is valid. Maybe Brian
could
> > modify the PEP slightly to disambiguate. How about using an
ellipsis in
> > the argument list to signify suite-based keywords? Examples:
> >
> > f(...):
> > x = 1
> >
>
Marcus Goldfish wrote:
So what do you consider when making this decision
Python style tends away from validating what doesn't need to be validated. The
argument seems to be that the additional validating code comes at the price of
legibility, and perhaps flexibility.
It's common in Python to us
Bengt Richter wrote:
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:32:02 -0700, James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I_vote_yes(James):
I_understand_what_it_does = True
Makes_code_formatting_way_more_managable_in_tough_cases = True
Makes_code_way_more_readable = True
To_cool = True
On Friday 15 April 2005 04:4
Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote:
Brian Sabbey wrote:
Here is a pre-PEP for what I call "suite-based keyword arguments". The
mechanism described here is intended to act as a complement to thunks.
Please let me know what you think.
Suite-Based Keyword Arguments
-
Passing complic
Shane Hathaway wrote:
Kent Johnson wrote:
Brian Sabbey wrote:
Using suite-based keyword arguments, the code
f(x = 1)
is equivalent to
f():
x = 1
ISTM the syntax is ambiguous. How do you interpret
if f():
x = 1
?
Is a suite alllowed only when a block could not be introduced in the
current synt
Brian van den Broek wrote:
Hi all,
I'm posting partly so my problem and solution might be more easily found
by google, and partly out of mere curiosity.
I've just spent a frustrating bit of time figuring out why pydoc didn't
extract a description from my module docstrings. Even though I had a
w
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Klaus Alexander Seistrup wrote:
However, MLPY doesn't seem to work on my Tungsten T3 (PalmOS 5.2.1).
The .prc installs without any problems, and I can start the Python
interpreter, but nothing happens if I ring in a Python expression and
press return -- the prompt just "hangs" and never returns.
It
Lucio,
Just tried to install it on my sony clie PEG-S360. When I try to run
it I get:
Fatal Alert
pythonrun.c, Line: 1483,
Py_Initialize: can't init ints
Aside from my clie being significantly under-powered, I don't know what
else could be wrong.
What version of the Palm OS does this support?
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:44:58 -0700, Brian Sabbey
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Simple Thunks
>-
>
>Thunks are, as far as this PEP is concerned, anonymous functions that
>blend into their environment. They can be used in ways similar to code
>blocks in Ruby or Smalltalk. One specific
Brian van den Broek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It turns out that I was using '''triple single quotes''' and pydoc
> only pulls a description out from module docstrings that are formatted
> in """triple double quotes""". I've poked about with google, and
> cannot find any explanation of why pydo
Shane Hathaway wrote:
I like this PEP a lot, but your concern is valid. Maybe Brian could
modify the PEP slightly to disambiguate. How about using an ellipsis in
the argument list to signify suite-based keywords? Examples:
f(...):
x = 1
class C(object):
x = property(...):
doc = "I'm
Great tool, indeed! But doc strings stay in the source text.
If you do need to remove doc strings as well, add the following into
the __call__ method.
... # kill doc strings
... if not self.docstrings:
... if toktype == tokenize.STRING and len(toktext) >= 6:
...
Hi all,
I'm posting partly so my problem and solution might be more easily
found by google, and partly out of mere curiosity.
I've just spent a frustrating bit of time figuring out why pydoc
didn't extract a description from my module docstrings. Even though I
had a well formed docstring (one l
"Gary Bishop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Fernando Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Claudio Grondi wrote:
>
>> > Considering what I found in the ipython mailing archives
>> > and the fact, that after the fix with displaying colors on
>> > bright backgrounds Gary had no time yet to get in touc
Glad you are making progress ;)
>I give you a brief example of the xref output (taken from your >code,
>also if the line numbers don't match, because I modified >your code,
>not beeing interested in eof's other than Linux).
What happens when you try to analyze a script from a diffrent os ? It
usu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
It's *not* a good idea to delete Apple's system Python. You will
probably need to reinstall the OS.
In addition to the mailing list that someone else posted (which is a
great resource!), here's a good site to check out:
http://pythonmac.org/
The site ma
Kent Johnson wrote:
So I would like to parse a XML file one record at a time and then be able
to store the information in another object.
You might be interested in this recipe using ElementTree:
http://online.effbot.org/2004_12_01_archive.htm#element-generator
if you have ElementTree 1.2.5 or late
Xah Lee wrote:
> how to represent the unicode "em space" in regex?
You will have to pass a Unicode literal as the regular expression,
e.g.
fracture=re.split(u'\u2003*\\|\u2003*',myline,re.U)
Notice that, in raw Unicode literals, you can still use \u to
escape characters, e.g.
fracture=re.spli
Neil Hodgson wrote:
>In the March 2005 issue of Dr Dobbs Journal there is an article
> "Resource Management in Python" by Oliver Schoenborn. One paragraph
> (first new paragraph, page 56) starts "Starting with Python 2.4, a new
> type of expression lets you use the keyword /with/". It continue
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been going through the manuals and not having much luck with the
following code. This is basically an issue of giving 'split' multiple
patterns to split a string. If it had an ignore case switch, the problem
would be solved. Instead, I have to code the following,
The idea is interesting but not unambigously realizable. Maybe one
should introduce some extra syntax for disambiguation and thereby
generalize the proposal.
as :
# list of definitions and assignments
Proposed specifiers are dict, tuple, *, ** and func.
- as dict:
conversion into a dict
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All,
I have been going through the manuals and not having much luck with the
following code. This is basically an issue of giving 'split' multiple
patterns to split a string. If it had an ignore case switch, the problem
would be solved. Instead, I have to code the follow
Willem Ligtenberg wrote:
I want to parse a very large (2.4 gig) XML file (bioinformatics ofcourse :))
But I have no clue how to do that. Most things I see read the entire xml
file at once. That isn't going to work here ofcourse.
So I would like to parse a XML file one record at a time and then be a
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:44:58 -0700, Brian Sabbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Here is a first draft of a PEP for thunks. Please let me know what you
>think. If there is a positive response, I will create a real PEP.
>
>I made a patch that implements thunks as described here. It is available
>at:
Brian Sabbey wrote:
> def get_items(thunk):# <-- "thunk-accepting function"
> f = acquire()
> try:
> for i in f:
> thunk(i) # A-OK
> finally:
> f.release()
>
> do i in get_items():
> print i
Seems like You want to solve the addressed gene
Irmen de Jong wrote:
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Surely you are blaspheming, sir! XML's the greatest thing
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I'm just *waiting* for the day someone finds its use on the rolls of
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praba kar wrote:
> Dear all,
>
>In Php array_slice function base
> we can print array contents as per our desire
> eg)
>
> $a = array(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15);
> $arr = array_slice($a,10,10);
>
> this function will print 11,12,13,14,15
>
> But I try to print the same thing in p
Hi,
At last I succeded in implementing a cross reference tool!
(with your help and that of other gurus...).
Now I can face the problem (for me...) of understanding your
code (I have not grasped the classes and objects...).
I give you a brief example of the xref output (taken from your code,
also
print a[10:15]
or
print a[10:]
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Dear all,
In Php array
All,
I have been going through the manuals and not having much luck with the
following code. This is basically an issue of giving 'split' multiple
patterns to split a string. If it had an ignore case switch, the problem
would be solved. Instead, I have to code the following, which works fine
fo
Dear all,
In Php array_slice function base
we can print array contents as per our desire
eg)
$a = array(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15);
$arr = array_slice($a,10,10);
this function will print 11,12,13,14,15
But I try to print the same thing in python
using slice operator
eg) print a[1
On Sat, 2005-04-09 at 14:09 -0700, dzieciou wrote:
> I'm new-comer in Python.
> I want to install few Python modules (4Suite, RDFLib, Twisted and Racoon)
> in my home directory, since Python installation is already installed in the
> system
> and I'm NOT its admin.
> I cannot install pyvm (portabl
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Willem Ligtenberg wrote:
I want to parse a very large (2.4 gig) XML file (bioinformatics ofcourse :))
But I have no clue how to do that. Most things I see read the entire xml
file at once. That isn't going to work here ofcourse.
So I would like to parse a XML file one record at a time and then be a
I want to parse a very large (2.4 gig) XML file (bioinformatics ofcourse :))
But I have no clue how to do that. Most things I see read the entire xml
file at once. That isn't going to work here ofcourse.
So I would like to parse a XML file one record at a time and then be able
to store the informa
Xah Lee :
> how to represent the unicode "em space" in regex?
>
> e.g. i want do something like this:
>
> fracture=re.split(r'\342371*\|\342371*',myline,re.U)
I'm not sure what you're trying to do, but would it help you to use
it's name:
>>> EM_SPACE = u'\N{EM SPACE}'
>>> fra
Klaus Alexander Seistrup wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some months ago i did a port of the Python2.3.2 interpreter to
PalmOS.
Wow, this is just what I've been waiting for. Meanwhile I've tried
to make do with Rexx for PalmOS, hehehe...
I've been making do (rather successfully so far) with
Plua 2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Some months ago i did a port of the Python2.3.2 interpreter to
> PalmOS.
Wow, this is just what I've been waiting for. Meanwhile I've tried
to make do with Rexx for PalmOS, hehehe...
However, MLPY doesn't seem to work on my Tungsten T3 (PalmOS 5.2.1).
The .prc install
Peter,
May my I apologize for knocking against your information, as well.
> For what it is worth, my experience is as follows: Using a PIII
> 550MHz, 256MB RAM, running WinNT 4.0 and Python 2.3.4 and connecting
> to a Sybase Adaptive Server Anywhere 8.0 database, mx.ODBC took
> approximately 8 wal
Thank you very much.
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Unknown User schrieb:
I am a Python programmer and I'm thinking about learning PHP, which is
similar to C++
wrong
(quite different from Python).
true
I want to start writing web applications. Do you th
how to represent the unicode "em space" in regex?
e.g. i want do something like this:
fracture=re.split(r'\342371*\|\342371*',myline,re.U)
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>
> Even though "tens", "ones" and "number" all appear as attributes, only
> "number" has its input validated. Since the class is designed to only
> hold numbers 0 - 99, one can 'break' it by setting self.tens=11, for
> example. Should tens and ones be made into full-fledged properties
> and val
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How would you write
if f(x=1):
print "yes"
using suite-based keyword args?
Good point.
Then we should remove the extra ':' at the end of the function invocation
:
if f(x=@>):
value of x
print "yes"
if f(@**>):
x: value of x
print "yes"
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I think your proposal is very interesting, I've been missing code blocks
in Python more and more as time goes by.
I'll answer to both the 'thunks" proposal and the "suite-based keywords"
proposal here.
I find the Ruby syntax rather dirty though, because it has a lot of
implicit stuff, tre
I don't know why you post this article and contradict pope and
Christian.
Is this the right forum to talk something like this ?
I guess this is only python language forum not Religion forum
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Hi all,
I think I might have a workaround to this problem but have no idea how
to work it through. I hope that someone can kindly help me out because I
do not quite understand the mechanics of the _make_regex() method in the
original codes...
My idea is, instead of having one UserDict, have a l
Brian Sabbey wrote:
> Here is a pre-PEP for what I call "suite-based keyword arguments". The
> mechanism described here is intended to act as a complement to thunks.
> Please let me know what you think.
>
> Suite-Based Keyword Arguments
> -
>
> Passing complicated ar
To avoid namespace confliction with other Python packages, I want all
my projects to be put into a specific namespace, e.g. 'hongqn' package,
so that I can use "from hongqn.proj1 import module1", "from
hongqn.proj2.subpack1 import module2", etc.
These projects are developed and maintained and dist
> If there is any interest on this, please let me know so we can work on
> getting this as a real port.
"Interest" is just a "slight" understatement... :-)
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Gerry Sutton wrote:
> I have noticed a strange behavior when using a constant identifier to
> initialize an instance list variable in a base class and then trying to
> modifying the list in subclasses by using either the list.extend method or
> even by having the subclass create a whole new list i
Hello all!
I need ready-for-use installable version of PySparse (for FiPy), because I
can't compile it with MingW. Or, may be, somebody knows step-by-step
instruction to complie this package under Win32 using Mingw?
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:45:55 -0700, Brian Sabbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Here is a pre-PEP for what I call "suite-based keyword arguments". The
>mechanism described here is intended to act as a complement to thunks.
>Please let me know what you think.
>
Sorry, I replied to to you via James S
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:32:02 -0700, James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I_vote_yes(James):
> I_understand_what_it_does = True
> Makes_code_formatting_way_more_managable_in_tough_cases = True
> Makes_code_way_more_readable = True
> To_cool = True
>
>On Friday 15 April 2005 04:45 pm, Br
Kent Johnson wrote:
> Brian Sabbey wrote:
>> Using suite-based keyword arguments, the code
>>
>> f(x = 1)
>>
>> is equivalent to
>>
>> f():
>>x = 1
>
>
> ISTM the syntax is ambiguous. How do you interpret
> if f():
> x = 1
> ?
>
> Is a suite alllowed only when a block could not be introduc
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