Re: Capture the request/response log for local web server through python.

2010-06-14 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Tue, 15 Jun 2010 00:41:08 -0300, shanti bhushan escribió: Dear all, I have made local webserver up by the python script from BaseHTTPServer import BaseHTTPRequestHandler, HTTPServer class MyHandler(BaseHTTPRequestHandler): def do_GET(self): try: if self.path.ends

Re: Mark built-in module as deprecated

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 2010-06-15 02:29, moerchendiser2k3 wrote: > Hi, yes, that was my first idea when I just create an > external module. I forgot something to say: > > In my case the initfoo() function is called on startup > in my embedding environment, that means I call that > on startup of my main app. > ah. I

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 6/14/10 9:08 PM, Stephen Hansen wrote: > On 6/14/10 8:31 PM, rantingrick wrote: >> On Jun 14, 9:41 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: >> >>> I wasn't aware of [row|column]configure, no: however, I am dubious of >>> how it directly applies. >> >> Maybe you should become more aware of a subject before you

Re: a +b ?

2010-06-14 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney writes: > No, it wasn't clear at all. That's why I asked, rather than making > assumptions. > > Thanks for clarifying. It should go without saying, but unfortunately the tenor of this forum has been worsened (temporarily, I hope) by certain interminable threads of late. So, to be clea

Re: a +b ?

2010-06-14 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 23:05:56 -0700, alex23 wrote: > And I'm saying that I hope that most people who are professional > developers are capable of learning such advanced functionality, which > they will never do if there are no effective examples for them from > which to learn. I'm not sure why Pyth

Re: a +b ?

2010-06-14 Thread Ben Finney
alex23 writes: > Ben Finney wrote: > > alex23 writes: > > > (Although I have to say, I have little sympathy for Steven's > > > hypothetical "new programmer who isn't familiar with map and > > > reduce". > > > > With ‘reduce’ gone in Python 3 [0], I can only interpret that as “I > > have little

Re: lambdas

2010-06-14 Thread Peter Otten
Thomas Jollans wrote: > On 06/15/2010 12:06 AM, Craig Yoshioka wrote: >> I'm trying to write a class factory to create new classes dynamically at >> runtime from simple 'definition' files that happen to be written in >> python as well. I'm using a class factory since I couldn't find a way to >> u

Re: a +b ?

2010-06-14 Thread alex23
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Perhaps you need to spend some more time helping beginners then, and less > time hanging around Lisp gurus *wink* I've never used map/reduce outside of Python, this is where I first encountered it. And I _have_ worked in organisations alongside new Python coders. That it'

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 6/14/10 10:35 PM, rantingrick wrote: > On Jun 14, 11:08 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > > >> Does not perform to spec. Quote, "Inside of A, there are four items in a >> vertical line. The bottom which takes up half of the total vertical >> space, and the top three share the rest. > > No problem,

Re: Finding closures through introspection

2010-06-14 Thread John Nagle
On 6/14/2010 9:33 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:46:28 -0700, John Nagle wrote: So how can I detect a closure? I *think* you do it through the co_flags attribute of the code object. This is in Python 2.5: although this doesn't seem to be documented, at least not here: htt

Re: a +b ?

2010-06-14 Thread alex23
Ben Finney wrote: > alex23 writes: > > (Although I have to say, I have little sympathy for Steven's > > hypothetical "new programmer who isn't familiar with map and reduce". > > With ‘reduce’ gone in Python 3 [0], I can only interpret that as “I have > little sympathy for programmers who start wi

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread rantingrick
On Jun 14, 11:08 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > Does not perform to spec. Quote, "Inside of A, there are four items in a > vertical line. The bottom which takes up half of the total vertical > space, and the top three share the rest. No problem, check this out... import Tkinter as tk app = tk.Tk(

Re: python local web server

2010-06-14 Thread James Mills
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:44 PM, alex23 wrote: > shanti bhushan wrote: >> Please guide me the design or direct me the best approach to do all >> this. > > The best approach? > > 1. Study > 2. Learn > 3. Apply > > There you go, the advice that keeps on giving. In addition to my good colleagues so

Re: python local web server

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 6/14/10 9:41 PM, shanti bhushan wrote: > Hi , > I want to use the python local web server. > I want to do the following activities with the server. > 1. I want to change to configuration of any time ,with the help of > python script. > 2. I want to log request and response for the server so ,i c

Re: python local web server

2010-06-14 Thread alex23
shanti bhushan wrote: > Please guide me the design or direct me the best approach to do all > this. The best approach? 1. Study 2. Learn 3. Apply There you go, the advice that keeps on giving. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

python local web server

2010-06-14 Thread shanti bhushan
Hi , I want to use the python local web server. I want to do the following activities with the server. 1. I want to change to configuration of any time ,with the help of python script. 2. I want to log request and response for the server so ,i can use it for analysis. Please guide me in this respe

CFP for Surge Scalability Conference 2010

2010-06-14 Thread Jason Dixon
We're excited to announce Surge, the Scalability and Performance Conference, to be held in Baltimore on Sept 30 and Oct 1, 2010. The event focuses on case studies that demonstrate successes (and failures) in Web applications and Internet architectures. Our Keynote speakers include John Allspaw an

Re: Finding closures through introspection

2010-06-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:46 PM, John Nagle wrote: > No indication there that "fbar" is a closure inside "foo".  There > are "__closure__" and "__func_closure__" entries in there, but > they are both None.  A non-closure function has the same entries. > > So how can I detect a closure? Maybe beca

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 6/14/10 9:26 PM, rantingrick wrote: > On Jun 14, 11:08 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > >>> Maybe you should become more aware of a subject before you start >>> running your mouth about it, eh? >> >> You know what? > > You know what Stephen, just calm down a little. I just pick on you > because y

Re: Finding closures through introspection

2010-06-14 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:46:28 -0700, John Nagle wrote: > So how can I detect a closure? I *think* you do it through the co_flags attribute of the code object. This is in Python 2.5: >>> def f(x): ... def g(): ... return x ... return g ... >>> >>> closure = f(42) >>> closure(

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread rantingrick
On Jun 14, 11:08 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > > Maybe you should become more aware of a subject before you start > > running your mouth about it, eh? > > You know what? You know what Stephen, just calm down a little. I just pick on you because you're one of the few people here that i enjoy argui

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 6/14/10 9:08 PM, Stephen Hansen wrote: > The code is at: http://ixokai.io/get/layout-wx.py_ If you've already downloaded this, you have to do so again; I uploaded the wrong one on accident. -- Stephen Hansen ... Also: Ixokai ... Mail: me+list/python (AT) ixokai (DOT) io ... Blog:

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 6/14/10 8:31 PM, rantingrick wrote: > On Jun 14, 9:41 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > >> I wasn't aware of [row|column]configure, no: however, I am dubious of >> how it directly applies. > > Maybe you should become more aware of a subject before you start > running your mouth about it, eh? You k

Finding closures through introspection

2010-06-14 Thread John Nagle
I'm doing something with CPython introspection, and I'm trying to determine whether a function is a closure. Consider def foo(x) : global fbar def bar(y) : pass fbar = bar # export closure foo(0) We now have "fbar" as a reference to a closure. "inspect" can tell u

Capture the request/response log for local web server through python.

2010-06-14 Thread shanti bhushan
Dear all, I have made local webserver up by the python script import string,cgi,time from os import curdir, sep from BaseHTTPServer import BaseHTTPRequestHandler, HTTPServer #import pri import glob import logging import logging.handlers class MyHandler(BaseHTTPRequestHandler): def do_GET(self

Re: configuration setting for python server

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 6/14/10 8:30 PM, shanti bhushan wrote: > On Jun 15, 5:53 am, David Zaslavsky wrote: >> On Monday 14 June 2010 6:19:33 am shanti bhushan wrote:> I want to update >> the configuration file for python server ,but i am >>> not able to locate the python configuration file. >> >> What configuration

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 6/14/10 8:04 PM, AD. wrote: >> Much, much, much Googling led me to try many things to get it just >> right, and all bemoaned the lack of a solid way to vertically center: >> all the while using essentially similar methods to horizontally center. > > I'd recommend the book "Pro CSS and HTML Desi

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread rantingrick
On Jun 14, 9:41 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > I wasn't aware of [row|column]configure, no: however, I am dubious of > how it directly applies. Maybe you should become more aware of a subject before you start running your mouth about it, eh? > Consider this relatively simple user interface > layo

Re: configuration setting for python server

2010-06-14 Thread shanti bhushan
On Jun 15, 5:53 am, David Zaslavsky wrote: > On Monday 14 June 2010 6:19:33 am shanti bhushan wrote:> I want to update the > configuration file for python server ,but i am > > not able to locate the python configuration file. > > What configuration file? I don't see anything in your code that rea

Re: configuration setting for python server

2010-06-14 Thread shanti bhushan
On Jun 15, 5:53 am, David Zaslavsky wrote: > On Monday 14 June 2010 6:19:33 am shanti bhushan wrote:> I want to update the > configuration file for python server ,but i am > > not able to locate the python configuration file. > > What configuration file? I don't see anything in your code that rea

Re: python XMLHttpRequest

2010-06-14 Thread lkcl
>  so they _had_ to put the glib/gobject bindings in, after all that > effort spent fighting tooth and nail to prevent it... and not having > access to the key developer who worked on it (because of censorship) > it's been a bit of a bitch for them, and it's only about 80% complete, > after 6 month

Re: Is Scheme/LISP faster than C/C++

2010-06-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-06-15, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: > I've heard it said, it is easy to beat C compilers for fast code, it's > just hard to beat them at benchmarks written for C. That is, do the same > type of things as what Scheme gives you, such as lots of dynamic > allocation and resizing, higher order func

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread AD.
On Jun 15, 1:58 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > Very nice. And interesting. "position: absolute" there is a mystery to > me and seems to be key, I'm not sure entirely what it is doing to the > layout manager in that scenario, but it seems to do the trick. The Cliff Notes: position: absolute allows d

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 6/14/10 7:22 PM, rantingrick wrote: > On Jun 14, 6:27 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > >> From a functionality perspective, "pack" and "grid" are both distinctly >> less capable then wx sizers. > > Are you just flapping your gums or can you prove it Stephen? I will > accept any "Pepsi Challenge" y

newbie subprocess.Popen performance issues/questions

2010-06-14 Thread Chris Seberino
I tried to use subprocess.Popen to make my web app do a bunch of stuff in separate processes today. It appeared like only the first one finished and/or the rest of the forked processes crashed. I only have around 300Mb. Is it possible that my subprocess.Popen code was swapping to disk so much th

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread AD.
On Jun 15, 1:21 pm, pyt...@bdurham.com wrote: > Anton, > > Very nice. > > As an aside: I don't think you need to explicitly set your image size, Yeah, I only did that because I was assuming the image path would actually be broken (and it was for me too) - it was just to 'simulate' a 100x100 image

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 6/14/10 7:22 PM, rantingrick wrote: > On Jun 14, 6:27 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > [1] But please, make sure to post code that will run as-is. The last > block of wx code you posted is missing an application instance and > will not run without modification. There are noobs watching and we to > p

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 6/14/10 7:05 PM, rantingrick wrote: > """The Place geometry manager is the simplest of the three general > geometry managers provided in Tkinter. It allows you explicitly set > the position and size of a window, either in absolute terms, or > relative to another window.""" > >> I've no interest

Re: Temporary but named file with BSDDB

2010-06-14 Thread Jason
On Jun 14, 12:34 pm, Tim Pinkawa wrote: > On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Jason wrote: > The tempfile.TemporaryFile class should do the job. This part is > probably of particular interest to you: Thanks! Since the bsddb functions require a filename (not a file object), I'm thinking that "Named

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread rantingrick
On Jun 14, 6:27 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > From a functionality perspective, "pack" and "grid" are both distinctly > less capable then wx sizers. Are you just flapping your gums or can you prove it Stephen? I will accept any "Pepsi Challenge" you can muster in Wx code and echo that same capabil

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread rantingrick
On Jun 14, 6:27 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > I am familiar with grid, pack and place. Apparently not, read on... > Are you arguing from an API point of view, or a functionality point of > view? I going to argue that Tkinter offers the most "elegant" interface for geometry management. And i'll l

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 6/14/10 6:02 PM, AD. wrote: > On Jun 15, 12:06 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: >> "Arbitrarily sized" was the key point ;-) In that, you set the sizes of >> the div's explicitly. > > As I said to Ed, I think you missed why I included the exact same > image in two divs of different sizes. That was to

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread python
Anton, Very nice. As an aside: I don't think you need to explicitly set your image size, eg. I found your examples worked well with the following CSS properties removed from the img specification: width:100px; height: 100px; Malcolm -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread AD.
On Jun 15, 1:03 pm, Ed Keith wrote: > Nice! I've been looking for that trick for some time. > > Thank you, A lot of people (including pro web designers even) aren't really aware of what CSS can actually do. Part of the problem is that everyone only learnt the semi working subset that wouldn't fal

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread AD.
On Jun 15, 12:06 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > "Arbitrarily sized" was the key point ;-) In that, you set the sizes of > the div's explicitly. As I said to Ed, I think you missed why I included the exact same image in two divs of different sizes. That was to show it was still centered no matter wha

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Keith
Nice! I've been looking for that trick for some time. Thank you, -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com --- On Mon, 6/14/10, AD. wrote: > From: AD. > Subject: Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 8:56 PM > On Jun 15,

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread AD.
On Jun 15, 11:59 am, Ed Keith wrote: > But that is in a fixed size field, That's why I used the same image definition in two different sized divs to show that the images position wasn't determined by the divs size. > can you make the height change based on the height of the browser window, and

Re: configuration setting for python server

2010-06-14 Thread David Zaslavsky
On Monday 14 June 2010 6:19:33 am shanti bhushan wrote: > I want to update the configuration file for python server ,but i am > not able to locate the python configuration file. What configuration file? I don't see anything in your code that reads a configuration file. :) David -- http://mail.py

Re: Mark built-in module as deprecated

2010-06-14 Thread moerchendiser2k3
Hi, yes, that was my first idea when I just create an external module. I forgot something to say: In my case the initfoo() function is called on startup in my embedding environment, that means I call that on startup of my main app. Bye, moerchendiser2k3 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

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2010-06-14 Thread nanothermite911fbibustards
On Jun 14, 4:18 pm, nanothermite911fbibustards wrote: > Every day he make noise. bang the garage door. the police chief is a > jew. call police to harass me. and then a jew lawyer lied to an > incompetent judge in a court. > > As a result, I a sick person, physically handicapped, cant do my > prog

Re: Is Scheme/LISP faster than C/C++

2010-06-14 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
fortunatus wrote: > The only point to discuss would be that Scheme - in the R5 version of > the spec at least - doesn't have standard way to specify type data > unless I am mistaken. Therefore you will find that Scheme compilers > add their own syntax for it. Again we are led to a moot point.

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 6/14/10 4:51 PM, AD. wrote: > On Jun 14, 2:34 am, Stephen Hansen wrote: >> HTML+CSS have some very strong advantages. Simplicity is not one of >> them. Precision web design these days is a dark art. (Go center an image >> vertically and horizontally in an arbitrary sized field!) > > I agree, a

Re: Community (A Modest Proposal)

2010-06-14 Thread rantingrick
On Jun 14, 3:20 pm, Terry Reedy wrote: > 1. I agree. > 2. This does not much affect me since I do not directly enter compound > statement with more than, say, 2 lines in the body, even with the > command window interpreter. I much prefer a full screen editor. But i think you'll agree that fixing

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Mon, 6/14/10, AD. wrote: > From: AD. > Subject: Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 7:51 PM > On Jun 14, 2:34 am, Stephen Hansen > > wrote: > > HTML+CSS have some very strong advantages. Simplicity > is not one of > > them. Precision

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread AD.
On Jun 14, 2:34 am, Stephen Hansen wrote: > HTML+CSS have some very strong advantages. Simplicity is not one of > them. Precision web design these days is a dark art. (Go center an image > vertically and horizontally in an arbitrary sized field!) I agree, and I know that's a rhetorical question,

Re: lambdas

2010-06-14 Thread Craig Yoshioka
Sorry, the first example should be: class Status(object): def __init__(self,definitions): for key,function in definitions: setattr(self,key,property(function)) On Jun 14, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Craig Yoshioka wrote: > I'm trying to write a class factory

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 6/14/10 3:44 PM, rantingrick wrote: > On Jun 14, 2:30 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > > Stephan speaking of Wx geometry managers... > >> Ahem. /Rant. I'm not saying its the best layout system in the world, but >> like your DOM/HTML example -- its resolution independant (and >> cross-platform), so

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2010-06-14 Thread nanothermite911fbibustards
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Re: biopython

2010-06-14 Thread Sebastian Bassi
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:02 AM, madhuri vio wrote: > TypeError: Need a file handle, not a string (i.e. not a filename) This says that the error is that you are using a filename where you should be using a filehandle. So this line: for seq_record in SeqIO.read("ls_MTbH37Rv.fasta", "fasta"): Sh

Re: biopython

2010-06-14 Thread geremy condra
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Thomas Jollans wrote: > On 06/14/2010 05:45 PM, madhuri vio wrote: >> >> i am still waiting for some help. > > WHAT?! Your behaviour on this list is making me really, really angry. We > are not a tech support company. You are not paying for the privilege of > s

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread rantingrick
On Jun 14, 2:16 pm, lkcl wrote: > On Jun 14, 5:57 pm, rantingrick wrote: > > > I'll have to very much agree with this assessment Stephan. There > > exists not elegant API for these "web" UI's. The people over at > > SketchUp (my second love after python) have this problem on a daily > > bases wit

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread rantingrick
On Jun 14, 2:30 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: Stephan speaking of Wx geometry managers... > Ahem. /Rant. I'm not saying its the best layout system in the world, but > like your DOM/HTML example -- its resolution independant (and > cross-platform), so you can start resizing things and changing the >

Re: lambdas

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 06/15/2010 12:06 AM, Craig Yoshioka wrote: > I'm trying to write a class factory to create new classes dynamically at > runtime from simple 'definition' files that happen to be written in python as > well. I'm using a class factory since I couldn't find a way to use > properties with dynamic

Re: lambdas

2010-06-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Craig Yoshioka wrote: > def makeStatus(definitions): >        class Status(object): >                pass >        for key,function,data in definitions: >                setattr(Status,key,property(lambda x: function(data))) >        return Status() > > but all my

Re: Will and Abe's "Guide to Pyjamas"

2010-06-14 Thread Ethan Furman
lkcl wrote: oh look - there's a common theme, there: "web technology equals useless" :) this is getting sufficiently ridiculous, i thought it best to summarise the discussions of the past few days, from the perspective of four-year-olds: AH hahahahahahahahahahahaha -- http://mail.python.org

lambdas

2010-06-14 Thread Craig Yoshioka
I'm trying to write a class factory to create new classes dynamically at runtime from simple 'definition' files that happen to be written in python as well. I'm using a class factory since I couldn't find a way to use properties with dynamically generated instances, for example: I would prefer

Re: Standard Library SSL Module (was: Python OpenSSL library)

2010-06-14 Thread geremy condra
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:54:33 -0400 > Michael Crute wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> > That was not my question. My question was whether there was a reason to >> > rewrite a separate OpenSSL-accessing libr

Re: efficiently create and fill array.array from C code?

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 06/14/2010 09:47 PM, Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > Thomas Jollans writes: > >> On 06/14/2010 01:18 PM, Hrvoje Niksic wrote: >>> Thomas Jollans writes: >>> 1. allocate a buffer of a certain size 2. fill it 3. return it as an array. >>> >>> The fastest and more robust approach (I'm awar

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread lkcl
On Jun 14, 7:30 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > On 6/14/10 11:47 AM, lkcl wrote: > > > On Jun 14, 4:17 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > >  yes.  that's effectively what pyjs applications are about: as much > > HTML/CSS as you can stand, then _absolute_ pure javascript from there- > > on in... only using a

Re: biopython

2010-06-14 Thread Ajit Kumar
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Thomas Jollans wrote: > On 06/14/2010 05:45 PM, madhuri vio wrote: >> >> i am still waiting for some help. > > Besides: your original TWO (why two??) posts got a couple of replies. > One annoyed but in principle I think helpful one from myself, and one > rather

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 6/14/10 1:00 PM, lkcl wrote: > On Jun 14, 7:30 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: >> On 6/14/10 11:47 AM, lkcl wrote: >> wx has two separate containment hierarchies. The first is a >> hierarchical, parent->child relationship. This is what a lot of people >> think is its layout: but its not. It has nothi

python XMLHttpRequest

2010-06-14 Thread lkcl
>  all the methods by which you would have to deal with that GUI loop > problem have to be asynchronous _anyway_... aaand, what the heck, why > not just go with the flow and use the pyjamas.HTTPRequest or > pyjamas.JSONService recommended services, neh? sorry to be adding stuff after-the-fact, bu

Re: Python OpenSSL library

2010-06-14 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:05:50 -0700 geremy condra wrote: > > Yes. Hashlib is designed to provide cryptographic hashes, and the ssl > module to provide TLS support. Evpy provides encryption and signing. > Am I answering your question? Hmm, indeed, thank you. For some strange reason I had forgotten

Re: Standard Library SSL Module (was: Python OpenSSL library)

2010-06-14 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:54:33 -0400 Michael Crute wrote: > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > That was not my question. My question was whether there was a reason to > > rewrite a separate OpenSSL-accessing library rather than contributing to > > improve the "hashlib" and "

Re: how to build with 2.4 having 2.6 as main python

2010-06-14 Thread Hans Mulder
Benjamin Kaplan wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:09 AM, Alexzive wrote: thanks guys, the solution for me was python2.4 setup.py install --prefix=/usr/local cheers, AZ Don't do that! Like Steven said, you'll kill your system that way. Lots of programs in Linux use Python and those programs

Re: Convert .doc to .pdf

2010-06-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 14 June 2010 20:03, Thomas Jollans wrote: > On 06/14/2010 01:19 PM, Thales wrote: >> Good morning, >> >> I need to convert some files from .doc to .pdf. I've googled it a >> little bit and all the solutions I've found used the OpenOffice API, >> but I can't use it. >> >> Anybody knows a library

Re: Community (A Modest Proposal)

2010-06-14 Thread Terry Reedy
On 6/14/2010 3:07 AM, rantingrick wrote: Sorry Terry -- with all the noise here the very few "quality" signals just seem to be lost on my "auditory cortex". I think you will be both happier and more productive if you train yourself to pay more attention to signal and let noise go by. We

Re: efficiently create and fill array.array from C code?

2010-06-14 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Thomas Jollans writes: > On 06/14/2010 01:18 PM, Hrvoje Niksic wrote: >> Thomas Jollans writes: >> >>> 1. allocate a buffer of a certain size >>> 2. fill it >>> 3. return it as an array. >> >> The fastest and more robust approach (I'm aware of) is to use the >> array.array('typecode', [0]) * s

Re: setprocname

2010-06-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-06-14, MRAB wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2010-06-14, Tomasz Pajor wrote: >> >>> Why there is no setprocname function in standard library, or am I >>> missing something? >> >> Dunno. Before we start guessing, would you care to explain what you >> think "setprocname" ought to do?

Re: setprocname

2010-06-14 Thread John Nagle
On 6/14/2010 12:31 PM, Thomas Jollans wrote: On 06/14/2010 08:41 PM, Tomasz Pajor wrote: Hello, Why there is no setprocname function in standard library, or am I missing something? why should there be one? what should it do? This sounds like you expect there to be a wrapper of a C system cal

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread lkcl
On Jun 14, 7:30 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > On 6/14/10 11:47 AM, lkcl wrote: > > > On Jun 14, 4:17 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > >  yes.  that's effectively what pyjs applications are about: as much > > HTML/CSS as you can stand, then _absolute_ pure javascript from there- > > on in... only using a

Re: How to print via python on windows

2010-06-14 Thread Tim Golden
On 14/06/2010 7:29 PM, rantingrick wrote: On Jun 14, 10:55 am, Tim Golden wrote: On 14/06/2010 16:31, loial wrote: What is the easiest way to send a text file to a networked printer from a python script running on windows? http://timgolden.me.uk/python/win32_how_do_i/print.html H

Re: Convert .doc to .pdf

2010-06-14 Thread Colin J. Williams
On 14-Jun-10 10:01 AM, Marco Nawijn wrote: On 14 jun, 13:19, Thales wrote: Good morning, I need to convert some files from .doc to .pdf. I've googled it a little bit and all the solutions I've found used the OpenOffice API, but I can't use it. Anybody knows a library that I can use to do it?

Standard Library SSL Module (was: Python OpenSSL library)

2010-06-14 Thread Michael Crute
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > That was not my question. My question was whether there was a reason to > rewrite a separate OpenSSL-accessing library rather than contributing to > improve the "hashlib" and "ssl" modules which are already part of the > Python stdlib. The

Re: setprocname

2010-06-14 Thread MRAB
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-06-14, Tomasz Pajor wrote: Why there is no setprocname function in standard library, or am I missing something? Dunno. Before we start guessing, would you care to explain what you think "setprocname" ought to do? I think it's to set the name of the OS process.

Re: Is Scheme/LISP faster than C/C++

2010-06-14 Thread Raymond Toy
On 6/14/10 1:53 PM, fortunatus wrote: > For crying out loud, the best any compiler can do is make optimal > machine language. Many C compilers can do that over most inputs. So Is that why I had to use assembly code instead of C for some parts of my previous projects? There was even one example

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 6/14/10 12:16 PM, lkcl wrote: > from thereon in, you DO NOT do *any* HTML page "GETs": it's a one- > time static HTML/JS load, and THAT's IT. > > the only further interaction that we recommend is first and foremost > JSONRPC (and so, out of the 30 or so pyjamas wiki pages, about 10 of > them

Re: a +b ?

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 06/14/2010 09:15 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:24:59 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > >> With ‘reduce’ gone in Python 3 [0] > ... >> [0] http://docs.python.org/py3k/library/functions.html> > > > It's not gone, it's just resting. It's pinin' for the fjords. (sorry ^^) > >

Re: setprocname

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 06/14/2010 08:41 PM, Tomasz Pajor wrote: > Hello, > > Why there is no setprocname function in standard library, or am I > missing something? why should there be one? what should it do? This sounds like you expect there to be a wrapper of a C system call or other libc function called "setprocn

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 6/14/10 11:47 AM, lkcl wrote: > On Jun 14, 4:17 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > yes. that's effectively what pyjs applications are about: as much > HTML/CSS as you can stand, then _absolute_ pure javascript from there- > on in... only using a compiler (python-to-javascript) so as not to go > comp

Re: setprocname

2010-06-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-06-14, Tomasz Pajor wrote: > Why there is no setprocname function in standard library, or am I > missing something? Dunno. Before we start guessing, would you care to explain what you think "setprocname" ought to do? -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! If I pul

setprocname

2010-06-14 Thread Tomasz Pajor
Hello, Why there is no setprocname function in standard library, or am I missing something? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread lkcl
On Jun 14, 5:57 pm, rantingrick wrote: > I'll have to very much agree with this assessment Stephan. There > exists not elegant API for these "web" UI's. The people over at > SketchUp (my second love after python) have this problem on a daily > bases with WebDialogs. Even the javascript gurus have

Re: a +b ?

2010-06-14 Thread Ian
On 14/06/2010 02:35, alex23 wrote: Python isn't PHP, its built-ins are nowhere near as exhaustive, something like 80ish vs 2000+ functions? Not exactly a huge lookup burden. The problem is not learning Python, its learning about the standard libraries that Python gives you access to! .NET

Re: File descriptor to file object

2010-06-14 Thread Robert Kern
On 6/14/10 9:57 AM, Nathan Huesken wrote: Hi, tempfile.mkstemp returns a file name and a file descriptor (as returned by os.open). Can I somehow convert this descriptor to a file object? Thomas Jollans' advice is likely best, but to answer your specific question, use os.fdopen() to make a fil

Re: Which is the best implementation of LISP family of languages for real world programming ?

2010-06-14 Thread Pascal J. Bourguignon
"Antti \"Andy\" Ylikoski" writes: > 12.6.2010 22:54, Pascal J. Bourguignon kirjoitti: >> bolega writes: >>> [PAIP] >>> >>> Is there anything in this old norvig book that makes it worth >>> pursuing as a text ? >> >> Yes. >> > > I agree with his criticism that the book is "old", mine stems f

Re: Python OpenSSL library

2010-06-14 Thread geremy condra
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Nobody wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:43:02 -0700, John Nagle wrote: > >>     The new SSL module in Python 2.6 > > There isn't an SSL module in Python 2.6. There is a module named "ssl" > which pretends to implement SSL, but in fact doesn't. > >> is convenient, b

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread lkcl
On Jun 14, 5:57 pm, rantingrick wrote: > On Jun 14, 11:17 am, Stephen Hansen wrote: > > > And the recursive flow of the DOM is powerful > > This style of speaking reminds me of our former hillbilly president > (no not Clinton, he was the eloquent hillbilly!) the one with an IQ of 185? > No i a

Re: Python OpenSSL library

2010-06-14 Thread Nobody
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:43:02 -0700, John Nagle wrote: > The new SSL module in Python 2.6 There isn't an SSL module in Python 2.6. There is a module named "ssl" which pretends to implement SSL, but in fact doesn't. > is convenient, but insecure. In which case, it isn't actually convenient, i

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread lkcl
On Jun 14, 4:17 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote: > >> Did you just call DOM manipulation simple with a straight face? I don't > >> think I've ever seen that before. > > >  *lol* - wait for it: see below.  summary: once you start using high- > > level widgets: yes.  without such, yeah you're damn right.

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