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Re: Crummy BS Script

2010-10-02 Thread flebber
On Oct 3, 4:15 pm, flebber wrote: > On Oct 3, 9:58 am, John Bokma wrote: > > > > > flebber writes: > > > On Oct 2, 4:24 pm, Steven D'Aprano > > cybersource.com.au> wrote: > > >> On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 21:05:09 -0700, flebber wrote: > > >> > On Oct 2, 9:27 am, MRAB wrote: > > >> >> On 01/10/2010 2

Re: Crummy BS Script

2010-10-02 Thread flebber
On Oct 3, 9:58 am, John Bokma wrote: > flebber writes: > > On Oct 2, 4:24 pm, Steven D'Aprano > cybersource.com.au> wrote: > >> On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 21:05:09 -0700, flebber wrote: > >> > On Oct 2, 9:27 am, MRAB wrote: > >> >> On 01/10/2010 23:29, Burton Samograd wrote:> > >> >> flebber  writes:

Re: sequence multiplied by -1

2010-10-02 Thread Seebs
On 2010-10-03, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 12:50:02 -0700, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >> Well... We could maybe borrow from REXX... and >> use || for concatenation. >|| for concatenation? What's the connection between the pipe character > and concatenation? Th

Re: sequence multiplied by -1

2010-10-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 12:50:02 -0700, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > Well... We could maybe borrow from REXX... and > use || for concatenation. || for concatenation? What's the connection between the pipe character and concatenation? I realise that, ultimately, every symbol was

Re: WSGI by HTTP GET

2010-10-02 Thread MRAB
On 03/10/2010 03:29, Hidura wrote: 2010/10/2, Niklasro: Hello Getting a web same page with 2 or more possible "states" eg business part, private part or all parts, can you recommend a way to represent the states via HTTP GET? Feasible way could be ?business=business, ? type=business, ?business=t

Re: Fastest technique for string concatenation

2010-10-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 13:17:02 -0700, Carey Tilden wrote: > Have you profiled an application and found string concatenation to be > a performance bottleneck?  I would be surprised, but it's always > possible.  If not, I'd suggest you choose the technique that is most > clear and concise, and worry a

Re: WSGI by HTTP GET

2010-10-02 Thread Hidura
Be more specific but i recommend you, use a way in what you be very explicit eg:part='bussiness' a bool for 3 options it's very diffcult to handle. 2010/10/2, Niklasro : > Hello > Getting a web same page with 2 or more possible "states" eg business > part, private part or all parts, can you recomm

Re: sequence multiplied by -1

2010-10-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 14:09:15 -0700, geremy condra wrote: > I'd actually love the ability to overload this, although I'm not sold on > the itertools.chain thing. To me it looks a lot like the 'is isomorphic' > operator from graph theory, and we could really use that in Graphine. You can overload t

Re: sequence multiplied by -1

2010-10-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 14:12:39 -0700, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > I'd prefer to see it used for floating point comparison in the two > character: > x ~= y > though one might need to set up some system parameter to define what the > permissible delta would be... > > sys.fl

WSGI by HTTP GET

2010-10-02 Thread Niklasro
Hello Getting a web same page with 2 or more possible "states" eg business part, private part or all parts, can you recommend a way to represent the states via HTTP GET? Feasible way could be ?business=business, ? type=business, ?business=true or others. Should I minimize casting the variable? Whic

Re: SQLite is quite SQL compliant

2010-10-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 19:13:11 -0400 Philip Semanchuk wrote: > > On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Tim Chase wrote: > > > On 10/02/10 17:06, Seebs wrote: > >> On 2010-10-02, Ravi wrote: > >>> The documentation of the sqlite module at > >>> http://docs.python.org/library/sqlite3.html says: > >> > >>> ".

Re: [C-API] Weird sys.exc_info reference segfault

2010-10-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 23:35:01 +0200 "Jonas H." wrote: > > This WSGI application: > >def app(env, start_response): >start_response('200 alright', []) >try: >a >except: >import sys >sys.exc_info() >return ['hello'] > >impo

Re: SQLite is quite SQL compliant

2010-10-02 Thread Philip Semanchuk
On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Tim Chase wrote: > On 10/02/10 17:06, Seebs wrote: >> On 2010-10-02, Ravi wrote: >>> The documentation of the sqlite module at >>> http://docs.python.org/library/sqlite3.html says: >> >>> "...allows accessing the database using a nonstandard >>> variant of the SQL...

Re: SQLite is quite SQL compliant

2010-10-02 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On 02 Oct 2010 22:06:58 GMT Seebs wrote: > I would agree that the word "nonstandard" seems to be a little strong and > discouraging. sqlite is a source of joy, a small bright point of decent > and functional software in a world full of misbehaving crap. While it > does omit a few bits of SQL fun

Re: Crummy BS Script

2010-10-02 Thread John Bokma
flebber writes: > On Oct 2, 4:24 pm, Steven D'Aprano cybersource.com.au> wrote: >> On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 21:05:09 -0700, flebber wrote: >> > On Oct 2, 9:27 am, MRAB wrote: >> >> On 01/10/2010 23:29, Burton Samograd wrote:> >> >> flebber  writes: >> >> >> >> But where is this saving the imported f

Re: SQLite is quite SQL compliant

2010-10-02 Thread Tim Chase
On 10/02/10 17:06, Seebs wrote: On 2010-10-02, Ravi wrote: The documentation of the sqlite module at http://docs.python.org/library/sqlite3.html says: "...allows accessing the database using a nonstandard variant of the SQL..." I would agree that the word "nonstandard" seems to be a little

Re: Crummy BS Script

2010-10-02 Thread flebber
On Oct 2, 4:24 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 21:05:09 -0700, flebber wrote: > > On Oct 2, 9:27 am, MRAB wrote: > >> On 01/10/2010 23:29, Burton Samograd wrote:> > >> flebber  writes: > > >> >> But where is this saving the imported file and under what name? > > >> > Looks like s

Re: sequence multiplied by -1

2010-10-02 Thread MRAB
On 02/10/2010 22:12, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 21:24:19 +0100, MRAB declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: How about "~", which is currently has only a unary form: >>> "foo" ~ "bar" 'foobar' >>> [1, 2, 3] ~ [4, 5, 6] [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6] Think of it as me

Re: SQLite is quite SQL compliant

2010-10-02 Thread Seebs
On 2010-10-02, Ravi wrote: > The documentation of the sqlite module at > http://docs.python.org/library/sqlite3.html > says: > "...allows accessing the database using a nonstandard variant of the > SQL..." > But if you see SQLite website they clearly say at > http://sqlite.org/omitted.html > t

[C-API] Weird sys.exc_info reference segfault

2010-10-02 Thread Jonas H.
Hello list, I have a really weird reference problem with `sys.exc_info`, and, if I'm right, function frames. The software in question is bjoern, a WSGI web server written in C, which you can find at http://github.com/jonashaag/bjoern. This WSGI application: def app(env, start_response):

Re: Fastest technique for string concatenation

2010-10-02 Thread python
Carey, > Have you profiled an application and found string concatenation to be a > performance bottleneck? I would be surprised, but it's always possible.  The "application" is very simple - its essentially a finite state machine that parses complex RTF files. We read char by char and do lots of

Re: SQLite is quite SQL compliant

2010-10-02 Thread Cousin Stanley
Ravi wrote: > The documentation of the sqlite module > at http://docs.python.org/library/sqlite3.html > says: > > "... > allows accessing the database > using a nonstandard variant of the SQL..." > > But if you see SQLite website they clearly say > at http://sqlite.org/omitted.html that onl

Re: How to find free resident memory in Linux using python

2010-10-02 Thread Seebs
On 2010-10-02, Sandy wrote: > I want to find how much free memory (RAM) is available in my system > using python. The question is essentially incoherent on modern systems. You'd have to define terms. Consider that on a given system, it's quite possible that gigabytes of space are being used to

Re: sequence multiplied by -1

2010-10-02 Thread geremy condra
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:24 PM, MRAB wrote: > On 02/10/2010 20:50, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >> >> On 02 Oct 2010 04:38:16 GMT, Steven D'Aprano >>  declaimed the following in >> gmane.comp.python.general: >> >> >>> If so, then we haven't gained anything, and the only thing that would >>> satisfy s

Re: sequence multiplied by -1

2010-10-02 Thread MRAB
On 02/10/2010 20:50, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On 02 Oct 2010 04:38:16 GMT, Steven D'Aprano declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: If so, then we haven't gained anything, and the only thing that would satisfy such people would be for every function name and operator to be uniqu

Re: Fastest technique for string concatenation

2010-10-02 Thread python
Emile, > Your times will improve when not burdened by the repeated method lookups and > element-wise list creation. Excellent point!! Here's updated timings for each technique followed by copy and paste source code for anyone that wants to fiddle with these tests. I've placed your name above yo

Re: Fastest technique for string concatenation

2010-10-02 Thread Carey Tilden
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 12:09 PM, wrote: > My understanding is that appending to a list and then joining this list when > done is the fastest technique for string concatenation. Is this true? Have you profiled an application and found string concatenation to be a performance bottleneck?  I would

SQLite is quite SQL compliant

2010-10-02 Thread Ravi
The documentation of the sqlite module at http://docs.python.org/library/sqlite3.html says: "...allows accessing the database using a nonstandard variant of the SQL..." But if you see SQLite website they clearly say at http://sqlite.org/omitted.html that only very few of the SQL is not implement

Re: Fastest technique for string concatenation

2010-10-02 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 10/2/2010 12:09 PM pyt...@bdurham.com said... Your times will improve when not burdened by the repeated method lookups and element-wise list creation: try with eg, def testListAppend2(): output = list() append = output.append for char in source: append( char ) outpu

Fastest technique for string concatenation

2010-10-02 Thread python
My understanding is that appending to a list and then joining this list when done is the fastest technique for string concatenation. Is this true? The 3 string concatenation techniques I can think of are: - append to list, join - string 'addition' (s = s + char) - cStringIO The code that follows

Re: C API: Getting PyObject by name

2010-10-02 Thread pbienst
For reference to posterity, this is how I got it to work in the end: PyObject* module = PyImport_ImportModule("__builtin__"); PyObject* obj = PyRun_String("1", Py_eval_input, PyModule_GetDict(module), NULL); Py_DECREF(module); long d = PyLong_AsLong(obj); printf("long:%ld\n", d); Py_DE

Re: Random math op

2010-10-02 Thread geremy condra
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Hugo Léveillé wrote: > Hi > let say I have a simple math apps that randomize number X and number Y. > How would you randomize between '/','*','+', and '-' for that math > operation What does it mean to 'randomize' a number? Just pick a number at random. Geremy Con

Re: Deditor:Pythonic text editor

2010-10-02 Thread aug dawg
I think there is a bad import in /deditor/deditor.py. It says "import wx.aui" and this makes the program fail. At least for me, anyway. Something might be messed up with my computer. On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Kruptein wrote: > Hey, I released the 0.2.1 version of my text-editor written

Re: How to find free resident memory in Linux using python

2010-10-02 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 07:06 -0700, Sandy wrote: > Hi all, > I want to find how much free memory (RAM) is available in my system > using python. I tried psutil, parsing /proc/meminfo, top output etc > but not satisfied. For example my gnome-system-monitor gui shows I am > using 1GB (25%) of my RAM w

Re: Random math op

2010-10-02 Thread Benjamin Kaplan
use the add, sub, div, and mul functions in the operator module. Stick them in a list, and then randomly pull one out. On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Hugo Léveillé wrote: > Hi > let say I have a simple math apps that randomize number X and number Y. > How would you randomize between '/','*','+

Deditor:Pythonic text editor

2010-10-02 Thread Kruptein
Hey, I released the 0.2.1 version of my text-editor written for linux in python using the wxPython toolkit. I would like to know whether it is good/bad and what could be changed/ added this version added -syntax-highlighting for 78 languages -Tab completion in the filepath bar -Shortcut customiz

Random math op

2010-10-02 Thread Hugo Léveillé
Hi let say I have a simple math apps that randomize number X and number Y. How would you randomize between '/','*','+', and '-' for that math operation -- Hugo Léveillé hu...@fastmail.net -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Regular Expression Skipping Match

2010-10-02 Thread MRAB
On 02/10/2010 04:13, AON LAZIO wrote: Hi python pals, I need this help, say I have h = "Hello \n World" How would I create a regular expression that match only "Hello World"? (ignore \n in the middle) Thanks in advance \s matches any whitespace, so: Hello\s+World -- http:/

Re: sequence multiplied by -1

2010-10-02 Thread Carl Banks
On Oct 1, 9:38 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > If so, then we haven't gained anything, and the only thing that would > satisfy such people would be for every function name and operator to be > unique -- something which is impossible in practice, even if it were > desirable. That is the ideal, yes, a

Re: Re: Problem saving uploaded files in Python3

2010-10-02 Thread hidura
The results was that, i can upload all the data normally comes as an byte code and looks like this: \\n\\x1a\\n\\x00\\x00\\x00IHDR\\x00\\x00\\x05U\\x00\\x00\\x026\\x08\\x06\\x00\\x00\\x00P]h\\xc5\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x01sRGB\\x00\\xae\\xce\\x1c\\xe9\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x06bKGD\\x00\\xff\\x00\\xff\\x00\\

Re: How to find free resident memory in Linux using python

2010-10-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 07:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Sandy wrote: > Hi all, > I want to find how much free memory (RAM) is available in my system > using python. Take a look at http://www.selenic.com/smem/ It's written in Python. Regards Antoine. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

How to find free resident memory in Linux using python

2010-10-02 Thread Sandy
Hi all, I want to find how much free memory (RAM) is available in my system using python. I tried psutil, parsing /proc/meminfo, top output etc but not satisfied. For example my gnome-system-monitor gui shows I am using 1GB (25%) of my RAM while /proc/meminfo, top, psutil says around 2GB is used. I

Re: Unclear datetime.date type when using isinstance

2010-10-02 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
"Mailing List" writes: > Was including a input check on a function argument which is expecting a > datetime.date. When running unittest no exception was raised when a > datetime.datetime instance was used as argument. Some playing with the > console lead to this: > import datetime > dt1

Re: Regular Expression Skipping Match

2010-10-02 Thread Thomas Jollans
On Saturday 02 October 2010, it occurred to AON LAZIO to exclaim: > Hi python pals, >I need this help, say I have >h = "Hello \n World" >How would I create a regular expression that match only "Hello World"? > (ignore \n in the middle) What exactly are you looking for? One way to solve

Re: Unclear datetime.date type when using isinstance

2010-10-02 Thread Chris Rebert
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Mailing List wrote: > Was including a input check on a function argument which is expecting a > datetime.date. When running unittest no exception was raised when a > datetime.datetime instance was used as argument. Some playing with the > console lead to this: > >>>

Re: read() returns data of different sizes

2010-10-02 Thread Chris Rebert
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 4:58 AM, jimgardener wrote: > hi > while trying out urllib.urlopen ,I wrote this code to read a url and > return the data length > > import datetime,time,urllib > > def get_page_size(pageurlstr): >    h=urllib.urlopen(pageurlstr) >    data=h.read() >    return len(data) > >

Unclear datetime.date type when using isinstance

2010-10-02 Thread Mailing List
Was including a input check on a function argument which is expecting a datetime.date. When running unittest no exception was raised when a datetime.datetime instance was used as argument. Some playing with the console lead to this: >>> import datetime >>> dt1 = datetime.datetime(2010, 10, 2) >>>

read() returns data of different sizes

2010-10-02 Thread jimgardener
hi while trying out urllib.urlopen ,I wrote this code to read a url and return the data length import datetime,time,urllib def get_page_size(pageurlstr): h=urllib.urlopen(pageurlstr) data=h.read() return len(data) while True: print 'reading url www.google.com at',datetime

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Re: "Strong typing vs. strong testing"

2010-10-02 Thread Nick Keighley
On 1 Oct, 19:33, RG wrote: > In article , >  Seebs wrote: > > On 2010-10-01, RG wrote: > > >> Those goal posts are sorta red shifted at this point. [...] > > > Red shifted? > > > Moving away fast enough that their color has visibly changed. doppler shift for instance or one of them cosmologi

Re: "Strong typing vs. strong testing"

2010-10-02 Thread Nick Keighley
On 1 Oct, 11:02, p...@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon) wrote: > Seebs writes: > > On 2010-09-30, Ian Collins wrote: > >> Which is why agile practices such as TDD have an edge.  If it compiles > >> *and* passes all its tests, it must be right. > > > So far as I know, that actually just

Re: Problem saving uploaded files in Python3

2010-10-02 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Chris Rebert writes: > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:13 PM, wrote: >> Hello, i control the problem of the data what is uploaded by the POST >> method, in the web if the file is a text theres no problem >> but the trouble comes when it's an enconded file as a Picture or other what >> the when the sy

Re: ElementTree handling nested tag

2010-10-02 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
tekion writes: > All, > I have the following xml tag: > > > httpRequest > HTTP://cmd.wma.ibm.com:80/ > GET > 200 > > > > I am interested in: >httpRequest > HTTP://cmd.wma.ibm.com:80/ > GET > 200 > as well as the upper layer tag. How do I ge

Re: if the else short form

2010-10-02 Thread Ian
On Oct 1, 11:19 pm, Paul Rubin wrote: > Steven D'Aprano writes: > > Incorrect. bools *are* ints in Python, beyond any doubt. > >     Python 2.6.2 (r262:71600, Jun  4 2010, 18:28:58) >     >>> type(3)==type(True) >     False >>> -1 < False < True < 2 True >>> True + True 2 >>> hex(True) '0x1'