On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 20:24:16 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote:
>> Pop Quiz
>>
>> Your driving your car down the road when ou
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I completely sniglim with what you are saying. I'd go further and state
> that, without exception, your argument is the most vumtigious I've ever
> seen, and if there were any justice in the world, people would follow you
> down the street
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 20:24:16 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote:
> Although i would strongly prefer for him to choose ubiquitous
> definitions *over* regional definitions when posting to internet forums,
> i would have happily ignored this thread had it not been for Stevens
> emotional plea of:
>
> "A
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:26:48 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote:
> Even if you are correct that the OP is using a regional variation of
> English, you fail to realize that this "regional redefinition" of the
> English word: "doubts" to mean what the *majority* of English speaking
> world understands as "q
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Tim Delaney
wrote:
> Before I go look it up, I'm guessing that the etymology of "stumped" is
> actually coming from the problem of a plough getting stuck on a stump (i.e.
> can't progress any further). Not much of an issue anymore since the
> invention of the stump
On 27 November 2013 13:28, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Mark Lawrence
> wrote:
> > On 26/11/2013 23:06, TheRandomPast . wrote:
> >> I'm stumped.
> >
> > Good to see another cricketer on the list :)
>
> May I be bowled enough to suggest that "stumped" doesn't necessar
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> Most people are unaware that life *even* exists beyond the
> "point and click". Heck, If you opened a command prompt in
> front of them, they'd run and hide in a closet for the next
> three hours consumed with fear. They'd probably convince
>
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Unix SA wrote:
>
>> Sounds to me more like he is looking to package some other in house
>> software, as opposed to packaging python specific libraries, etc..
>
> - Yes, This is exactly i am looking at
>
>
>> Doing an apt-cache search on my Ubuntu desktop results wi
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 26/11/2013 23:06, TheRandomPast . wrote:
>> I'm stumped.
>
> Good to see another cricketer on the list :)
May I be bowled enough to suggest that "stumped" doesn't necessarily
imply a background in cricket?
*dives for cover*
ChrisA
--
On 11/26/13 8:26 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:52:11 AM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Roy Smith [...] wrote:
We live in an international world (otherwise we wouldn't
need that annoying unicode stuff). When you say,
"effort to be underst
On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 5:09:13 PM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote:
> My point was that Rick had made the assumption that the GUI was
> *everything* and that users were able to do nothing beyond
> double-clicking on icons
For some people the GUI *is* everything.
Most people are unaware that li
On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:52:11 AM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Roy Smith [...] wrote:
> > We live in an international world (otherwise we wouldn't
> > need that annoying unicode stuff). When you say,
> > "effort to be understandable", what you're really sa
On 26/11/2013 23:06, TheRandomPast . wrote:
This is my code
import md5
import sys
def chklength(hashes):
if len(hashes) != 32:
print '[-] Improper length for md5 hash.'
sys.exit(1)
characters=range(48,57)+range(65,90)+range(97,122)
def checkPassword(password):
#print
This is my code
import md5
import sys
def chklength(hashes):
if len(hashes) != 32:
print '[-] Improper length for md5 hash.'
sys.exit(1)
characters=range(48,57)+range(65,90)+range(97,122)
def checkPassword(password):
#print password
m = md5.new(password)
if (m.hexd
On 27/11/2013 1:41 AM, andonefi...@gmail.com wrote:
I also want to be able to read the length of the mp3.
For this, try the eyed3 library:
>>> import eyed3
>>> mp3 = eyed3.load(r'pygame\examples\data\house_lo.mp3')
>>> mp3.info.time_secs
7
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/eyeD3/0.
On 11/26/2013 05:01 PM, Victor Hooi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to use Python's new style string formatting with a dict
> and string together.
>
> For example, I have the following dict and string variable:
>
> my_dict = { 'cat': 'ernie', 'dog': 'spot' } foo = 'lorem ipsum'
>
> If I want to jus
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Victor Hooi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to use Python's new style string formatting with a dict and
> string together.
>
> For example, I have the following dict and string variable:
>
> my_dict = { 'cat': 'ernie', 'dog': 'spot' }
> foo = 'lorem ipsum'
>
>
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:01:48 -0800, Victor Hooi wrote:
> '{0['cat']} {1} {0['dog']}'.format(my_dict, foo) ...
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
It's a syntax error because you are using the same quotes. You have:
'{0['cat']} {1} {0['dog']}'
which is parsed as:
STR '{0['
NAME cat
STR '
On 11/25/2013 12:35 PM, Malte Forkel wrote:
> I have a Python application that communicates with a server via telnet.
> Host and port of the server are supplied by the user when the
> application is started.
>
> How can I determine from within the application whether the server's
> host actually i
Hi,
I'm trying to use Python's new style string formatting with a dict and string
together.
For example, I have the following dict and string variable:
my_dict = { 'cat': 'ernie', 'dog': 'spot' }
foo = 'lorem ipsum'
If I want to just use the dict, it all works fine:
'{cat} and {do
Malte Forkel wrote:
One special operation is not available in
the protocol, but can be implemented by a direct file-based operation if
the application is run on the server itself.
What would happen if you tried the file-based method when
it wasn't a local connection? Is there a danger of it
"su
On 26/11/2013 22:49, Eamonn Rea wrote:
On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 7:40:50 PM UTC, Irmen de Jong wrote:
On 26-11-2013 19:09, Eamonn Rea wrote:
Thanks for the help on PEP, but I can't find a way to get the application
support (appdata on Windows, no idea on Linux). If I do:
print os.e
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Eamonn Rea wrote:
>> Maybe this module is of some use to you:
>> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/appdirs
>>
>> It provides a unified Python API to the various OS specific 'user' directory
>> locations.
>
> I saw this, but I wanted to do it myself as I stated in the O
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Walter Hurry wrote:
> Easy enough with ifconfig and grep. I presume that there is also a way on
> Windows, but others will have to contribute that.
Since the server runs Linux, inability to run /sbin/ifconfig could
safely be interpreted as "we're not running on t
On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:55:52 PM UTC-8, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:13:57 -0800 (PST), jos...@gmail.com declaimed the
>
> following:
>
>
>
> >I am currently using Windows 7 Sp1, Tkinter 8.5, Python 2.7.4 on a laptop
> >with no attached monitor. I am attempting to
On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:56:13 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Malte Forkel
> wrote:
>> Thanks for the explanation. I guess I was hoping that I could use some
>> property of a connection created with telnetlib or its socket to find
>> out whether it was actually a ho
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 13:41:07 +1100, Chris Angelico
> declaimed the following:
>
>>
>>Totally sure-fire. Absolutely prevents any execution until it's
>>renamed. By the way, what does "associate" mean, and what does it have
>>to do with fi
On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:55:52 PM UTC-8, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:13:57 -0800 (PST), jos...@gmail.com declaimed the
>
> following:
>
>
>
> >I am currently using Windows 7 Sp1, Tkinter 8.5, Python 2.7.4 on a laptop
> >with no attached monitor. I am attempting to
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Malte Forkel wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation. I guess I was hoping that I could use some
> property of a connection created with telnetlib or its socket to find
> out whether it was actually a host-local connection (i.e. a connection
> to 'localhost', '127.xx.x
On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 7:40:50 PM UTC, Irmen de Jong wrote:
> On 26-11-2013 19:09, Eamonn Rea wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the help on PEP, but I can't find a way to get the application
> > support (appdata on Windows, no idea on Linux). If I do:
>
> >
>
> > print os.environ['HOME']
>
> >
I am currently using Windows 7 Sp1, Tkinter 8.5, Python 2.7.4 on a laptop with
no attached monitor. I am attempting to use winfo_screenmmwidth, but the
returned value is incorrect. Specs state 280 mm. Physical measurement is 275
mm. EDID states 280 mm. Tkinter's winfo_screenmmwidth returns 361 m
On 27 November 2013 03:57, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
> So I can now ask my questions in dutch and expect others to try and
> understand me instead of me asking them in english? Or can I use
> literal translations of dutch idioms even if I suspect that such
> a literal translation could be misundersto
On Tuesday 26 November 2013 10:49:07 Alister did opine:
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:52:11 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> >> We live in an international world (otherwise we wouldn't need that
> >> annoying unicode stuff). When you say, "effort to
> Sounds to me more like he is looking to package some other in house
software, as opposed to packaging python specific libraries, etc..
- Yes, This is exactly i am looking at
> Doing an apt-cache search on my Ubuntu desktop results with a project,
Spectacle, coincidentally written in Python. (I
Thanks Phil, now I understand!
I wasn't aware of the fact that tasks are automatically attached to the event
loop when they are created via their constructor. I thought I have to pass them
to a run_* method explicitly.
Phil Connell schrieb:
>On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 09:30:29PM +0100, Tobias M
On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 7:34:31 PM UTC, EricGarlic wrote:
>
Correction: I meant Plot not Scatter - corrected below. Issue is with Plot
statement
Hi,
>
>
>
> I have been following a very good online tutorial for matplotlib:
>
>
>
> http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/teaching/matplotlib
On 26-11-2013 19:09, Eamonn Rea wrote:
> Thanks for the help on PEP, but I can't find a way to get the application
> support (appdata on Windows, no idea on Linux). If I do:
>
> print os.environ['HOME']
>
> I get: '/Users/eamonn', as that is my home directory. But when I do:
>
> print os.enviro
Hi,
I have been following a very good online tutorial for matplotlib:
http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/teaching/matplotlib/#introduction
However, when I try to annotate the point where the cosine/sine graphs cross
the scatter graph misses the point where it crosses the axes; green and pink
colou
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:18:33 +, TheRandomPast . wrote:
> - Teacher has taught us nothing about MD5. This being the script he
> wanted us to write came as a surprise to everyone but complaints about
> projects are constantly ignored. This particular teacher is complained
> about for this reason
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 02:30:03 -0800, TheRandomPast wrote:
>>for value in values:
> print value
..^^^
so change this to:
crackMD5Hash( value )
>> import hashlib
>> def crackMD5Hash():
Nah
def crackMD5Hash( hash ):
print "cracking hash:", hash
Thanks for the help on PEP, but I can't find a way to get the application
support (appdata on Windows, no idea on Linux). If I do:
print os.environ['HOME']
I get: '/Users/eamonn', as that is my home directory. But when I do:
print os.environ['APPDATA']
I get an error. But when I do:
print os.
Am 26.11.2013 13:26, schrieb Chris Angelico:
> If you deliberately create a file with a random name, the chances of
> one existing with the same name on the client are infinitesimal unless
> someone's deliberately trying to confuse things... in which case I
> wouldn't worry about it.
>
I wouldn't,
On 11/26/2013 10:10 AM, andonefi...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm still a bit new to this. When I download a module like Mutagen
> and unzip it I have a folder and tons of files within folders? I see
> no file simply called mutagen? So how can I import the module?
Also you can install many things usin
>
> There are a couple libraries that ease that[1]. Matters are
>
> complicated by the fact that there are two different versions of ID3
>
> tags, v1 and v2. However most of those libraries should handle them
>
> just fine.
>
>
>
> Also, I don't believe that the playtime length is actuall
Op 26-11-13 15:37, Roy Smith schreef:
> In article ,
> Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> So I think we may expect more effort from the writer in trying to be
>> understandable than from the readers in trying to understand. And
>> that includes idiom use.
>
> We live in an international world (otherwi
On 11/26/2013 08:41 AM, andonefi...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm trying to figure out how to get python to access the properties
> section of an mp3 file. When you right click an mp3 file and go to
> properties you can edit the title, album, and things like that. I
> also want to be able to read the len
On 2013-11-26 07:41, andonefi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hey everyone.
>
> I'm trying to figure out how to get python to access the properties
> section of an mp3 file. When you right click an mp3 file and go to
> properties you can edit the title, album, and things like that. I
> also want to be able
Hey everyone.
I'm trying to figure out how to get python to access the properties section of
an mp3 file. When you right click an mp3 file and go to properties you can edit
the title, album, and things like that. I also want to be able to read the
length of the mp3.
Is there a pythonic way to
On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:52:11 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
>> We live in an international world (otherwise we wouldn't need that
>> annoying unicode stuff). When you say, "effort to be understandable",
>> what you're really saying is, "everybody
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 5:22 PM, larry.mart...@gmail.com
wrote:
> I have an XML file that has an element called "Node". These can
> be nested to any depth and the depth of the nesting is not
> known to me. I need to parse the file and preserve the nesting.
> For exmaple, if the XML file had:
>
>
Thanks. I'll take that on board and let you know how I get on.
Thanks for all your help.
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:18 AM, TheRandomPast .
> wrote:
> > This is my code. I hope it looks better? I'm sorry if it doesn't. I'm
> trying
> > to
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Jonathan Slenders
> wrote:
>> Where do I find the PEP that describes that the following statement assigns
>> a generator object to `values`?
>> values = [ (yield x) for x in range(10) ]
>>
>> I assume it's
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> We live in an international world (otherwise we wouldn't need that
> annoying unicode stuff). When you say, "effort to be understandable",
> what you're really saying is, "everybody should be just like me".
>
> Unfortunately, that's not going to
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:18 AM, TheRandomPast .
wrote:
> This is my code. I hope it looks better? I'm sorry if it doesn't. I'm trying
> to get the hang of posting by email :)
There are no BBCode tags here, so [code] doesn't help you at all.
Other than that, looks good. Though if you're going to
In article ,
Antoon Pardon wrote:
> So I think we may expect more effort from the writer in trying to be
> understandable than from the readers in trying to understand. And
> that includes idiom use.
We live in an international world (otherwise we wouldn't need that
annoying unicode stuff).
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Jonathan Slenders
wrote:
> Where do I find the PEP that describes that the following statement assigns
> a generator object to `values`?
> values = [ (yield x) for x in range(10) ]
>
> I assume it's equivalent to the following:
> values = (x for x in range(10))
>
@RobertKern
- Teacher has taught us nothing about MD5. This being the script he wanted
us to write came as a surprise to everyone but complaints about projects
are constantly ignored. This particular teacher is complained about for
this reason every year but nothing ever changes.
This is my code
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Drew Crawford wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> I’m interested in digging up some Python mailing list archives from ages
> past. Google Groups’ archive goes sporadically back to ’94, but clearly the
> list is older.
>
> Does any one have a lead on where I could get an a
Larry Martell, 26.11.2013 13:23:
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:38 AM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
>> larry.martell...@gmail.com, 25.11.2013 23:22:
>>> I have an XML file that has an element called "Node". These can be nested
>>> to any depth and the depth of the nesting is not known to me. I need to
>>> p
On 2013-11-26 10:30, TheRandomPast wrote:
and I've started the second part, the part to crack them. If anyone could tell
me where I'd find more information on this subject and how to crack them that
would be great.
What resources did your teacher give you? What have you been taught in class
On 26/11/13 11:59, Larry Martell wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:41 AM, Alister wrote:
On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 18:25:55 -0500, Larry Martell wrote:
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Chris Angelico
wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Larry Martell
wrote:
On Monday, November 25, 2013 5:30:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:46 PM, TheRandomPast .
wrote:
> Thanks. From what I've been able to find online I've created a dictionary
> file with words and the words I know the hash values to be and I'm trying to
> get it to use that however when I run this I get no errors but it doesn't do
> anyth
Hi,
Thanks. From what I've been able to find online I've created a dictionary
file with words and the words I know the hash values to be and I'm trying
to get it to use that however when I run this I get no errors but it
doesn't do anything, like ask me to input my hash value. Am i just being
stup
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Malte Forkel wrote:
> That is a clever idea. While I can't modify the server, I could look at
> the files on the host running the application and try to determine if
> they fit to information from the server about its files. If both match,
> I could then conclude
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:38 AM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
> larry.martell...@gmail.com, 25.11.2013 23:22:
>> I have an XML file that has an element called "Node". These can be nested to
>> any depth and the depth of the nesting is not known to me. I need to parse
>> the file and preserve the nesting
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
> Sorry, didn't realize it was sending in HMTL. I had it set to plain
> text, but when the awful gmail update came out it seems to have
> reverted to HTML. Hopefully this is better.
Yeah, I have the same trouble... but yes, this post looks fi
Am 26.11.2013 12:38, schrieb Chris Angelico:
> There is another way you might be able to do this. The server could
> simply create a cookie in the file system - say, a file in /tmp with a
> randomly-generated name - and it can announce that to the client. If
> the client sees the same file in what
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:41 AM, Alister wrote:
>
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 18:25:55 -0500, Larry Martell wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Chris Angelico
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Larry Martell
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Monday, November 25, 2013 5:30:44 PM UT
On 11/25/13 10:33 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:> On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:10:04
PM UTC-6, Ned Batchelder wrote:
>> Let's please avoid veering off into rants about language
>> and philosophy now.
>
> Hello Ned. I respect the fact that you want to keep threads
> on-topic, and i greatly appreciate t
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Malte Forkel wrote:
> Most of the application's functionality uses the telnet connection to
> communicate with the server. One special operation is not available in
> the protocol, but can be implemented by a direct file-based operation if
> the application is run
Am 26.11.2013 00:41, schrieb Ben Finney:
>
> On Unix, this is up to the person invoking the program: the “sockets
> facility allows for a host-local connection to appear as though it's
> going over a network.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Localhost>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un
Am 26.11.2013 00:07, schrieb Chris Angelico:
>
> Two easy ways you could do this. I would be inclined to do what
> PostgreSQL and others do, and have an explicit indication that you
> want to use a local method: for instance, the name "localhost". Use of
> anything else (including "127.0.0.1") mea
Hello,
I want to use some machine learning stuff on mail messages. First step is get
some flattened text from a mail message, python's email package does not work
as automatically as I wish. Right now I have:
> def mail_preprocessor(str):
> msg = email.message_from_string(str)
> msg_bod
On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 18:25:55 -0500, Larry Martell wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Chris Angelico
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Larry Martell
>>
>> wrote:
>> > On Monday, November 25, 2013 5:30:44 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> >
>> >> First off, please clarify: Ar
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:30 PM, TheRandomPast wrote:
> and I've started the second part, the part to crack them. If anyone could
> tell me where I'd find more information on this subject and how to crack them
> that would be great. As I print them on screen I was thinking I could write a
> pro
On Tuesday, 26 November 2013 02:46:09 UTC, Frank Cui wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I'm assuming you are taking a computer/network security course.
>
> Md5 hashing operation is designed to be mathematically unidirectional, you
> can only attempt to find a collision situation but it's technically
> imposs
On 26 November 2013 06:18, John O'Hagan wrote:
>
> Thanks, that is exactly the type of thing I was after. Although it is
> actually slower as is than a hack like
>
> def imulticombs(it, n):
> last = ()
> for i in itertools.combinations(it,n):
> if i > last:
> yield i
>
Hi,
let say I have a legacy code with the following structure:
pkg1/__init__.py
pkg1/pkg2/__init__.py
pkg1/pkg2/bar.py
pkg1/pkg2/pkg3/__init__.py
pkg1/pkg2/pkg3/foo.py
In pkg1/pkg2/bar.py I have:
# pkg1/pkg2/bar.py
import pkg3.foo
class Bar(pkg3.foo): pass
in pkg1/pkg2/pkg3/foo.py:
#
Hello folks,
I’m interested in digging up some Python mailing list archives from ages past.
Google Groups’ archive goes sporadically back to ’94, but clearly the list is
older.
Does any one have a lead on where I could get an archive of the very oldest
posts to this list?
Drew
--
https://ma
On 11/24/2013 07:20 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
Are you really trying to protect against yourself accidentally invoking it or
someone
maliciously doing it?
I would probably give scrpt2 an obnoxious name like htrerttcdrrthyyh.py or put
it in an obscure
directory. But if you explain the rationale we m
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