Re: unicode to human readable format

2013-12-27 Thread wxjmfauth
Le vendredi 27 décembre 2013 12:37:17 UTC+1, Steven D'Aprano a écrit : > tomasz.kaczo...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > hello, > > > can I ask you for help? when I try to print s[0] i vane the message: > > > UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-1: > > > ordinal

Re: [OT]Royal pardon for codebreaker Turing

2013-12-27 Thread Tim Delaney
On 28 December 2013 15:16, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I don't care about the Olympians. Their presence in Russia is voluntary, > and so long as they keep it in their pants for a few weeks (or at least > don't get caught) they get to go home again a few weeks later. Have a > thought for those who do

Re: [OT]Royal pardon for codebreaker Turing

2013-12-27 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 07:30:34 +1100, Tim Delaney wrote: > On 28 December 2013 04:34, Mark Lawrence > wrote: > > >>> Personally, I think that people ought to throw a party celebrating >>> Turing's rehabilitation, and do it right outside the Russian Embassy. >>> >>> >> Any particular reason for th

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-27 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 21:10:49 -0500, Ned Batchelder wrote: > On 12/27/13 7:25 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: >> On 27Dec2013 07:40, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> I am on Ubuntu 12.10. I am still working with the 2 decimal places. >>> Sometime ago i had this issue and I forget how i solved

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-27 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 12/27/13 7:25 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 27Dec2013 07:40, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: I am on Ubuntu 12.10. I am still working with the 2 decimal places. Sometime ago i had this issue and I forget how i solved it. maybe i used datetime? thanks! Repeatedly people have asked you

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-27 Thread Roy Smith
matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: > I need to print the time in seconds from the epoch with > millisecond precision. I wrote: > What happens if you do: > > t = time.time() > self.logfile.write("str=%s, repr=%s", (str(t), repr(t))) At the time I originally posted that, I was baffled as to wha

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-27 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 27Dec2013 07:40, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: > I am on Ubuntu 12.10. I am still working with the 2 decimal > places. Sometime ago i had this issue and I forget how i solved it. > maybe i used datetime? thanks! Repeatedly people have asked you to show your exact code. Still nothing. H

Re: cascading python executions only if return code is 0

2013-12-27 Thread pecore
Roy Smith writes: > Or how to deal with languages where 26 letters isn't enough. English! that is, imvho English is in sore need of some more letters[*] and of diacriticals too g [*] unable to quantify! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Variables in a loop, Newby question

2013-12-27 Thread vanommen . robert
Op dinsdag 24 december 2013 17:23:43 UTC+1 schreef Jean-Michel Pichavant: > - Original Message - > > Hello, for the first time I'm trying te create a little Python > > program. (on a raspberri Pi) > > > > I don't understand the handling of variables in a loop with Python. > > > > > > Let

Re: cascading python executions only if return code is 0

2013-12-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:42 AM, Roy Smith wrote: > Keeping a bunch of clocks on a network in sync is a solved problem. The > world really needs to move on to new problems like how to deal with more > than 2^32 devices on a network. Or how to deal with languages where 26 > letters isn't enough.

eclipse+pyDev code complete problem

2013-12-27 Thread zhaoyunsong
dear all, I am trying to configure eclipse + pydev as my ide, but there seems to be some problem on code complete. the attached is the case when code complete does not work. any suggestions? Thanks! my system is win 64bit pyhon 3.3 64bit eclipse kepler-SR1 pydev 3.1 I downloaded pillow from thi

Re: [OT]Royal pardon for codebreaker Turing

2013-12-27 Thread Tim Delaney
On 28 December 2013 04:34, Mark Lawrence wrote: > >> Personally, I think that people ought to throw a party celebrating >> Turing's rehabilitation, and do it right outside the Russian Embassy. >> >> > Any particular reason for the restriction to Russian Embassy? I suspect it's in reference to t

Re: Python in the news

2013-12-27 Thread Larry Martell
John D. MacDonald fan? On Friday, December 27, 2013, Travis McGee wrote: > From Twitter: > > RT @cjbrummitt Python kills security guard at Sanur Hyatt, Bali (Ind). > bit.ly/1fLCWvn < bad coding has CONSEQUENCES, ppl! > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- https://mail.p

Re: Brython (Python in the browser)

2013-12-27 Thread billy . earney
Awesome.. Wonderful work! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-27 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Roy Smith wrote: > self.logfile.write("str=%s, repr=%s", (str(t), repr(t))) Ugh, make that: > self.logfile.write("str=%s, repr=%s" % ((str(t), repr(t))) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-27 Thread Roy Smith
In article <1db0d993-9d2d-46af-9ee8-69d9250dc...@googlegroups.com>, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: > > Please post the *exact* code you're running. The code you posted > > earlier is obviously only a fragment of some larger program, so we can > > only guess what's happening. Assuming your

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-27 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 12/27/13 1:09 PM, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, December 27, 2013 11:27:58 AM UTC-5, Roy Smith wrote: In article <0c33b7e4-edc9-4e1e-b919-fec210c92...@googlegroups.com>, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: I am on Ubuntu 12.10. I am still working with the 2 decimal place

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-27 Thread matt . doolittle33
On Friday, December 27, 2013 11:27:58 AM UTC-5, Roy Smith wrote: > In article <0c33b7e4-edc9-4e1e-b919-fec210c92...@googlegroups.com>, > > matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > I am on Ubuntu 12.10. I am still working with the 2 decimal places. > > > Sometime ago i had this issue and

Re: Brython (Python in the browser)

2013-12-27 Thread Pierre Quentel
Le vendredi 27 décembre 2013 17:12:09 UTC+1, Johannes Schneider a écrit : > On 27.12.2013 07:14, Pierre Quentel wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Ever wanted to use Python instead of Javascript for web client programming > > ? Take a look at Brython, an implementation of Python 3 in the browser, >

Re: cascading python executions only if return code is 0

2013-12-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 27/12/2013 01:44, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Roy Smith wrote: In article , Ethan Furman wrote: Mostly I don't want newbies thinking "Hey! I can use assertions for all my confidence testing!" How about this one, that I wrote yesterday; assert sec

Re: Brython (Python in the browser)

2013-12-27 Thread Pierre Quentel
Le vendredi 27 décembre 2013 15:56:33 UTC+1, jonas.t...@gmail.com a écrit : > Den fredagen den 27:e december 2013 kl. 07:14:35 UTC+1 skrev Pierre Quentel: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Ever wanted to use Python instead of Javascript for web client programming > > ? Take a look at Bryth

Re: [OT]Royal pardon for codebreaker Turing

2013-12-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 24/12/2013 05:07, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 00:32:31 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: Maybe of interest to some of you http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25495315 While I'm happy for Alan Turing, may he rest in peace, I think the thousands of other homosexuals who have been p

Re: cascading python executions only if return code is 0

2013-12-27 Thread Rustom Mody
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > >> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 23:29:30 -0500, Roy Smith declaimed the >> following: >> >> > >> >NTP is never supposed to move the clock backwards. If your system clock >> >is fast, it's supposed to reduce th

Re: cascading python executions only if return code is 0

2013-12-27 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 23:29:30 -0500, Roy Smith declaimed the > following: > > > > >NTP is never supposed to move the clock backwards. If your system clock > >is fast, it's supposed to reduce the rate your clock runs until it's > >back in sync. Well, m

Re: Brython (Python in the browser)

2013-12-27 Thread Johannes Schneider
On 27.12.2013 07:14, Pierre Quentel wrote: Hi, Ever wanted to use Python instead of Javascript for web client programming ? Take a look at Brython, an implementation of Python 3 in the browser, with an interface with DOM elements and events Its use is very simple : - load the Javascript libra

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-27 Thread Roy Smith
In article <0c33b7e4-edc9-4e1e-b919-fec210c92...@googlegroups.com>, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: > I am on Ubuntu 12.10. I am still working with the 2 decimal places. > Sometime ago i had this issue and I forget how i solved it. maybe i used > datetime? thanks! That's strange. Linux

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-27 Thread Dave Angel
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 07:40:29 -0800 (PST), matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: I am on Ubuntu 12.10. I am still working with the 2 decimal places. Sometime ago i had this issue and I forget how i solved it. maybe i used datetime? thanks! Now I'm stumped. 2.7.3 on Ubuntu 12.04 and time.time giv

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-27 Thread matt . doolittle33
On Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:54:41 PM UTC-5, Dave Angel wrote: > On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 20:03:34 -0500, Terry Reedy > > wrote: > > > On 12/26/2013 5:48 PM, Dave Angel wrote: > > > > You're probably on Windows, which does time differently. > > > > > With 3.3 and 3.4 on Windows 7, time.tim

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-27 Thread matt . doolittle33
I pretty much stopped using Windows 4 > > years ago. > I got off the plantation over a year ago and have not looked back. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond

2013-12-27 Thread matt . doolittle33
On Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:29:15 PM UTC-5, Roy Smith wrote: > In article <59aa73ac-e06e-4c0e-83a4-147ac42ca...@googlegroups.com>, > > matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > In [1]: import time > > > > In [2]: time.time() > > > > Out[2]: 1388085670.1567955 > > > > > > OK i did

Python in the news

2013-12-27 Thread Travis McGee
From Twitter: RT @cjbrummitt Python kills security guard at Sanur Hyatt, Bali (Ind). bit.ly/1fLCWvn < bad coding has CONSEQUENCES, ppl! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Brython (Python in the browser)

2013-12-27 Thread jonas . thornvall
Den fredagen den 27:e december 2013 kl. 07:14:35 UTC+1 skrev Pierre Quentel: > Hi, > > > > Ever wanted to use Python instead of Javascript for web client programming ? > Take a look at Brython, an implementation of Python 3 in the browser, with an > interface with DOM elements and events > >

Re: Brython (Python in the browser)

2013-12-27 Thread Roy Smith
In article <234a1a8d-e491-4eec-8bd5-7931cf4f7...@googlegroups.com>, Pierre Quentel wrote: > Hi, > > Ever wanted to use Python instead of Javascript for web client programming ? > Take a look at Brython, an implementation of Python 3 in the browser, with an > interface with DOM elements and ev

Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language

2013-12-27 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 19:38:51 -0500, Roy Smith wrote: > Does anybody ever use D? I looked at it a few years ago. It seemed > like a very good concept. Sort of C++, with the worst of the crap torn > out. If nothing else, with the preprocessor torn out :-) > > Did it ever go anywhere? Apparently

Re: String Template

2013-12-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:55 PM, wrote: > I'm rewriting a program previously written in C #, and trying to keep the > same configuration file, I have a problem with untapped strings. Not sure what you mean by "untapped" here? > Taking for example a classic line of apache log: > > 0.0.0.0 - [2

String Template

2013-12-27 Thread t . giuseppe
Hello I'm rewriting a program previously written in C #, and trying to keep the same configuration file, I have a problem with untapped strings. The previous configuration files provide an input template string of this type: This string is parsed and the values are replaced with the actual

Re: Google Groups + this list

2013-12-27 Thread Dave Angel
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 12:04:22 -0800 (PST), ru...@yahoo.com wrote: On 12/26/2013 05:41 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 4:13 PM, wrote: >> On 12/25/2013 09:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >>>[...] >>> Or maybe I should have just filtered everything from Google Groups >>> into th

Re: So, what's the real story on Python 2 vs Python 3?

2013-12-27 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 12/27/13 12:04 AM, Travis McGee wrote: The Python.org site says that the future is Python 3, yet whenever I try something new in Python, such as Tkinter which I am learning now, everything seems to default to Python 2. By this I mean that, whenever I find that I need to install another package

Re: unicode to human readable format

2013-12-27 Thread Dave Angel
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 02:43:58 -0800 (PST), tomasz.kaczo...@gmail.com wrote: can I ask you for help? when I try to print s[0] i vane the message: UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-1: ordinal not in range(128). how to solve my problem, please? First, what v

Re: unicode to human readable format

2013-12-27 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 12/27/13 5:43 AM, tomasz.kaczo...@gmail.com wrote: hello, can I ask you for help? when I try to print s[0] i vane the message: UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-1: ordinal not in range(128). how to solve my problem, please? regards, t. For help with

Re: So, what's the real story on Python 2 vs Python 3?

2013-12-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Alternatively, if you don't care about the OS-provided Python (perhaps > you're providing your own, or you expect your users to install from > source), then I think it is acceptable to target 2.7 and 3.3 or better > (e.g. drop support for

Re: unicode to human readable format

2013-12-27 Thread Steven D'Aprano
tomasz.kaczo...@gmail.com wrote: > hello, > can I ask you for help? when I try to print s[0] i vane the message: > UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-1: > ordinal not in range(128). how to solve my problem, please? What version of Python? What operating syste

Re: So, what's the real story on Python 2 vs Python 3?

2013-12-27 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Chris Angelico wrote: > However, I do broadly agree. For controlled environments, you should > be able to slide from 3.1 to 3.2 to 3.3 to 3.4 on whatever schedule > you choose, and happily drop support for the older versions. But in > less controlled environments, that's a bit harder. > > Probabl

Re: So, what's the real story on Python 2 vs Python 3?

2013-12-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: > On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Dan Stromberg wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: >>> 2. Always write strings with a u" prefix >> 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2 don't understand this, but 3.3 does. > > Ok > I was writing this und

Re: So, what's the real story on Python 2 vs Python 3?

2013-12-27 Thread Rustom Mody
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Dan Stromberg wrote: > On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: >> 2. Always write strings with a u" prefix > 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2 don't understand this, but 3.3 does. Ok I was writing this under the assumption that 2 is really entrenched whereas 3.n is di

Re: unicode to human readable format

2013-12-27 Thread tomasz . kaczorek
hello, can I ask you for help? when I try to print s[0] i vane the message: UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-1: ordinal not in range(128). how to solve my problem, please? regards, t. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Google Groups + this list

2013-12-27 Thread rurpy
On 12/26/2013 05:41 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 4:13 PM, wrote: >> On 12/25/2013 09:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >>>[...] >>> Or maybe I should have just filtered everything from Google Groups >>> into the bit bucket, because responding just creates threads like >>> this.

Re: Variables in a loop, Newby question

2013-12-27 Thread vanommen . robert
Hello everyone, I have been away for a while. I have been reading all the good advises and want to explain why I want to read the temperatures separately from the main script. It takes a long time to read out 10 temperatures. About 10 seconds. So that’s the reason why I had the idea to create a