Chris Angelico :
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Martin S :
>>
>>> Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise
>>> overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542.
>>
>> Well, here you are at news:comp.lang.python>, in the middle of
>> all
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Martin S :
>
>> Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise
>> overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542.
>
> Well, here you are at news:comp.lang.python>, in the middle of all
> that noise.
Or at python-l
Martin S :
> Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise
> overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542.
Well, here you are at news:comp.lang.python>, in the middle of all
that noise.
Marko
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Martin S writes:
> Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise
> overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542.
My experience is quite the opposite; Usenet discussions are far easier
to filter for useful content than e.g. Google Groups. So that's a major
reason for
Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise overwhelmed
signal by a factor of something close to 542.
(Just curiou)
/martin s
On 18 Jul 2014, memilanuk wrote:
>On 07/18/2014 02:45 PM, Sturla Molden wrote:
>> memilanuk wrote:
>>
>>> Used leafnode way back when... correct m
Hello everyone,
I hope this question does not piss anyone off seeing as how it has nothing to
do with Python….But I was wondering if anyone knew of a good mailinglist for
Java? I love this mailinglist for Python but have been unsuccessfull in
finding one for Java. Any suggestions would be gre
On 7/18/2014 11:50 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 18/07/2014 09:27, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
Yes Chris, i also think that the IDLE shell is "spectacular"
when i'm using it, especially when i press
"CONTROL+LEFT_ARROW" and the insertion cursor lands *
On 7/17/2014 11:37 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
On Thursday, July 17, 2014 9:15:15 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
For myself, though, I completely do not use the editor half of [IDLE]; but
it's spectacularly useful (with limitations) as my primary interactive
interpreter.
Yes Chris, i also think t
On 7/17/2014 10:39 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
IDLE (or Idle; Terry
seems to spell it the latter way, I'm not sure what's the official
recommendation now),
You found me out ;-). FORTRAN is now Fortran, and I hate typing IDLE,
and that spelling somehow strikes me as pretentious, so I decided to
On 7/17/2014 8:26 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 18/07/2014 01:13, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/17/2014 2:15 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
a partial disinformation rant again Idle
that repeats things said before, more than once.
Still more facts ;-). About three (four?) years ago, you posted a
similar rant.
On 7/18/2014 2:56 PM, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
It’s also slightly easier to find pre-made binaries for 32-bit than
64-bit.
Searching 'python windows binaries' on Google and the first hit is
http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/
"This page provides 32- and 64-bit Windows binaries o
On 7/17/2014 5:38 PM, Yaşar Arabacı wrote:
Hi,
I wrote a small program to draw L-system equations using tkinter. You
can find it on https://github.com/yasar11732/tklsystem
It is still under development, but seems to be working nice so far. I
could only try it on windows, but it should work on L
On 7/18/14 5:37 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
On Friday, July 18, 2014 1:20:10 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
PyDev, Eric, Komodo, PyCharm, WingIDE, SPE, Ninja-IDE,
Geany, IEP, Spyder, Boa Constructor, PyScripter, NetBeans,
Emacs, KDevelop, BlackAdder, ...
And tell me Steven, how many of those "qu
On 07/18/2014 02:45 PM, Sturla Molden wrote:
memilanuk wrote:
Used leafnode way back when... correct me if I'm wrong, but if memory
serves its a small news spool /server, not really a client/reader type
application. Used to be popular back before slrnpull came about.
Leafnode is an NNTP pro
memilanuk wrote:
> Used leafnode way back when... correct me if I'm wrong, but if memory
> serves its a small news spool /server, not really a client/reader type
> application. Used to be popular back before slrnpull came about.
Leafnode is an NNTP proxy server. It allows you to filter messag
On Friday, July 18, 2014 1:20:10 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> PyDev, Eric, Komodo, PyCharm, WingIDE, SPE, Ninja-IDE,
> Geany, IEP, Spyder, Boa Constructor, PyScripter, NetBeans,
> Emacs, KDevelop, BlackAdder, ...
And tell me Steven, how many of those "quality" IDEs that
you listed actually *
On 07/18/2014 01:46 PM, Sturla Molden wrote:
Guess where I'm going with this is... is there anything out there worth
trying - on Linux - that I'm missing?
leafnode
Used leafnode way back when... correct me if I'm wrong, but if memory
serves its a small news spool /server, not really a clien
memilanuk writes:
> Guess where I'm going with this is... is there anything out there worth trying
> - on Linux - that I'm missing?
emacs/gnus.
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On 07/18/2014 12:34 PM, Andrew Berg wrote:
On 2014.07.18 14:10, memilanuk wrote:
I'm on Ubuntu (14.04 LTS, if it matters) and I've been using Thunderbird
for a lng time... I've tinkered with slrn off and on over the years,
tried pan occasionally due to recommendations... but I keep ending up
> Guess where I'm going with this is... is there anything out there worth
> trying - on Linux - that I'm missing?
leafnode
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 12:10:02 -0700, memilanuk wrote:
> Given the ongoing hub-bub about Google Groups and some recent long
> threads where I *really* wanted to be able to mute/ignore certain
> individuals/subjects... I started looking into other choices for Usenet
> reader software again. I use ne
On 07/18/2014 01:10 PM, memilanuk wrote:
... is there anything out there worth
trying - on Linux - that I'm missing?
You've already tried them, but I bounce between Thunderbird and Pan. The
former because it's integrated with the most of the rest of my messaging
(mail, RSS); the latter for it
On 2014.07.18 14:10, memilanuk wrote:
> I'm on Ubuntu (14.04 LTS, if it matters) and I've been using Thunderbird
> for a lng time... I've tinkered with slrn off and on over the years,
> tried pan occasionally due to recommendations... but I keep ending up
> back @ Thunderbird. About the onl
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Hmmm, there's something to what you say there, but IEEE-754 NANs seem to
> have been designed to do quadruple (at least!) duty with multiple
> meanings, including:
>
> - Missing values ("I took a reading, but I can't read my handwriting").
memilanuk :
> Guess where I'm going with this is... is there anything out there
> worth trying - on Linux - that I'm missing?
I use GNUS under emacs for both news and mail.
Its main selling point is that the same keyboard commands work for news,
mail, Python, C, gdb, pdb, guile. IOW, there is on
On 2014-07-18 19:20, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 11:15:59 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
On Thursday, July 17, 2014 5:12:23 AM UTC-5, Fabien wrote:
For non-informatic students [...] I don't think that's true. Less
general languages like Matlab appear much easier to me: unified
doc,
Given the ongoing hub-bub about Google Groups and some recent long
threads where I *really* wanted to be able to mute/ignore certain
individuals/subjects... I started looking into other choices for Usenet
reader software again. I use news.gmane.org as a mail2news gateway for
reading a lot of l
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Zachary Ware
wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
> wrote:
>> “win32” is the name given to the Windows API as of Windows NT 3.1 and
>> Windows 95. The “AMD64” part in parentheses tells the truth, that
>> you’re actually running the 6
On Jul 18, 2014 8:36 PM, "Steven D'Aprano" <
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:
> I would normally agree with you about
> text being better than video, but I watched a video explaining git and it
> made much more sense than anything I've read.
Yes, exceptions do exist. But most video tut
On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 20:13:44 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 7/17/2014 2:15 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: a partial disinformation rant
> again Idle that repeats things said before, more than once.
[...]
Thanks for the detailed explanation Terry, and especially thanks for the
good work you have done o
Thanks to Chris and Zachary,
I shall retreat to Python 3.3
*pro tem*
*Colin W.*
On 18 July 2014 09:53, Zachary Ware wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 8:29 AM, wrote:
> > The version given on Python.org is "Python 3.4.1 (v3.4.1:c0e311e010fc,
> May 18 2014, 10:45:13) [MSC v.1600 64 bit (AMD64
On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:37:47 +0200, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Nicholas Cannon
> wrote:
>> Just quickly i am quite stuck on OOP and i really need like a good
>> video and i cant find any. If anyone knows any please link it i really
>> need it because i know
On 18/07/2014 19:20, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 11:15:59 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
Sadly, all of my calls to improve IDLE have been meet with rebukes about
me "whining".
Why don't you go volunteer to fix a few IDLE bugs, instead of just
demanding that others do it?
http://bu
On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 11:15:59 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On Thursday, July 17, 2014 5:12:23 AM UTC-5, Fabien wrote:
>> For non-informatic students [...] I don't think that's true. Less
>> general languages like Matlab appear much easier to me: unified doc,
>> unified IDE, unified debugger
>
> I'
On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 10:36:43 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On Thursday, July 17, 2014 12:48:38 AM UTC-5, alex23 wrote:
>> PHP regularly breaks compatibility between _minor_ version releases:
>> [...] more so with major releases: [...] yet I never see anywhere near
>> as much angst and agony as Pyth
On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 01:36:24 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Johann Hibschman
> wrote:
>> Well, I just spotted this thread. An easy example is, well, pretty
>> much any case where SQL NULL would be useful. Say I have lists of
>> borrowers, the amount owed, and th
On 18/07/2014 16:46, MRAB wrote:
On 2014-07-18 04:37, Rick Johnson wrote:
On Thursday, July 17, 2014 9:15:15 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
For myself, though, I completely do not use the editor half of
[IDLE]; but
it's spectacularly useful (with limitations) as my primary interactive
interpre
On 18/07/2014 09:27, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
Yes Chris, i also think that the IDLE shell is "spectacular"
when i'm using it, especially when i press
"CONTROL+LEFT_ARROW" and the insertion cursor lands *BEHIND*
the start of the interactive command
On 18/07/2014 04:37, Rick Johnson wrote:
On Thursday, July 17, 2014 9:15:15 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
For myself, though, I completely do not use the editor half of [IDLE]; but
it's spectacularly useful (with limitations) as my primary interactive
interpreter.
Yes Chris, i also think tha
On 2014-07-18 04:37, Rick Johnson wrote:
On Thursday, July 17, 2014 9:15:15 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
For myself, though, I completely do not use the editor half of [IDLE]; but
it's spectacularly useful (with limitations) as my primary interactive
interpreter.
Yes Chris, i also think tha
On 18/07/2014 04:01, alex23 wrote:
On 18/07/2014 10:45 AM, Andrew Berg wrote:
Maybe he's too busy working on RickPy 4000 (or whatever it was called).
I believe the new working name is PypeDream.
For me a very good day just got better with that one, thanks :)
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On 07/17/2014 11:05 AM, Orochi wrote:
and there are many more you can go for "learnstreet.com"
FYI: Learnstreet sent out an email a few weeks ago saying that they are
shutting down. Here is a link I found about it.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7986979
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Hallöchen!
Larry Martell writes:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Grant Edwards
> wrote:
>
>> But, I do know that a decent, civilized person just doesn't make
>> insulting comments like that about somebody else's work even if
>> it is true (which I very much doubt).
>
> Now, _that's_ funny. T
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> But, I do know that a
> decent, civilized person just doesn't make insulting comments like
> that about somebody else's work even if it is true (which I very much
> doubt).
Now, _that's_ funny. This is the internet. If you can't stand the he
On 2014-07-18, lavanya addepalli wrote:
> I am trying to find the neighbour of pair of Nodes. Individual and
> Combined.
Well start in one of the Node's front room. Step out the front door
and look around. Write down all the house numbers you can see. Maybe
do the same thing outside of the ba
On 2014-07-18, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On Thursday, July 17, 2014 1:44:20 PM UTC-5, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Rick Johnson :
>>> Sure, IDLE is not *useless*, however, it is in fact woefully
>>> inadequate and should be embarrassing to the whole community, both in
>>> it's buggy-ness and it's poorly
On 2014-07-18, alex23 wrote:
> On 17/07/2014 1:14 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> There will never be a Python 2.8. When push comes to shove, the people
>> bitching about Python 3 will not do the work necessary to fork Python 2.7
>> and make a version 2.8.
>
> +1
>
> The idea that forking and mainta
On 2014.07.18 08:53, Zachary Ware wrote:
> For the record, all versions of CPython on Windows (not counting
> anything relating to cygwin) are "on win32" regardless of the
> bittedness of the processor or the interpreter.
>
And in case you need more reassurance, there is the platform module in the
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
wrote:
> “win32” is the name given to the Windows API as of Windows NT 3.1 and
> Windows 95. The “AMD64” part in parentheses tells the truth, that
> you’re actually running the 64-bit version (which can cause problems,
> though — it’s bett
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 8:29 AM, wrote:
> The version given on Python.org is "Python 3.4.1 (v3.4.1:c0e311e010fc, May 18
> 2014, 10:45:13) [MSC v.1600 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32".
>
> This question is prompted by difficulties installing PyScripter. What does
> "on win32" mean in the above. I was
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 3:29 PM, wrote:
> The version given on Python.org is "Python 3.4.1 (v3.4.1:c0e311e010fc, May 18
> 2014, 10:45:13) [MSC v.1600 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32".
>
> This question is prompted by difficulties installing PyScripter. What does
> "on win32" mean in the above. I was
The version given on Python.org is "Python 3.4.1 (v3.4.1:c0e311e010fc, May 18
2014, 10:45:13) [MSC v.1600 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32".
This question is prompted by difficulties installing PyScripter. What does "on
win32" mean in the above. I was using PyScripter on an AMD64 processor with
Pytho
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Nicholas Cannon
wrote:
> Just quickly i am quite stuck on OOP and i really need like a good video and
> i cant find any. If anyone knows any please link it i really need it because
> i know OOP is important.
> video
There’s your problem: video tutorials are the
lavanya addepalli writes:
> I am trying to find the neighbour of pair of Nodes. Individual and
> Combined.
Is this a homework question? You might find better assistance over at
the Tutor forum https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor>.
> I am not getting any idea how to start about.
You
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Nicholas Cannon
wrote:
> Just quickly i am quite stuck on OOP and i really need like a good video
> and i cant find any. If anyone knows any please link it i really need it
> because i know OOP is important.
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Hello Everyone,
I have tried to understand a code but I'm finding it extremely difficult in
getting it through my head. I'd be glad if any of you could help me. I
understood the parsexml function and I'm trying to understand the rest but
finding it very hard. If any of you could spare your valu
Just quickly i am quite stuck on OOP and i really need like a good video and i
cant find any. If anyone knows any please link it i really need it because i
know OOP is important.
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I am trying to find the neighbour of pair of Nodes. Individual and
Combined.
I am not getting any idea how to start about.
Any suggestion will be appreciated
Thanks
Lav
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Shieldfire writes:
> On fre, 2014-07-18 at 18:23 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> > So, if by “slap a GUI onto” you mean something that is a no-frills
> > plain-HTML form, with essentially no assistance for the user and no
> > error handling, this will be a lot simpler to implement than
> > something e
On fre, 2014-07-18 at 18:23 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> Martin S writes:
>
> > a/ What is the "easiest" way of putting a web interface on this CLI
> > application. I've been looking at various web frameworks but that
> > seems pretty much targeted more towards larger projects. Not "slapping
> > a
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>> Yes Chris, i also think that the IDLE shell is "spectacular"
>> when i'm using it, especially when i press
>> "CONTROL+LEFT_ARROW" and the insertion cursor lands *BEHIND*
>> the start of the interactive command marker " >>>", an
>> area where ke
Martin S writes:
> a/ What is the "easiest" way of putting a web interface on this CLI
> application. I've been looking at various web frameworks but that
> seems pretty much targeted more towards larger projects. Not "slapping
> a gui" on a cli application.
> Any pointers and suggestions appreci
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> On Thursday, July 17, 2014 9:15:15 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> For myself, though, I completely do not use the editor half of [IDLE]; but
>> it's spectacularly useful (with limitations) as my primary interactive
>> interpreter.
>
> Yes
My little newbie app is now coming along nicely. It calculates both
LASK and Elo ratings for chess, so basic functionality is pretty much
complete for my needs.
Now,
a/ What is the "easiest" way of putting a web interface on this CLI
application. I've been looking at various web frameworks but tha
On 18/07/2014 03:24, Rick Johnson wrote:
On Thursday, July 17, 2014 1:44:20 PM UTC-5, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Rick Johnson :
Sure, IDLE is not *useless*, however, it is in fact
woefully inadequate and should be embarrassing to the
whole community, both in it's buggy-ness and it's poorly
written s
On 18/07/2014 01:45, Andrew Berg wrote:
On 2014.07.17 19:26, Mark Lawrence wrote:
I'm looking forward to see the massive number of fixes that come from
rr, assuming of course that he signs the CLA to make this possible. Or
has he already done so?
Maybe he's too busy working on RickPy 4000 (or
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