On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 18:33:31 -0700, Ethan Furman wrote:
> On 06/28/2018 05:58 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
>
>> So I remain dumbfounded as to why anyone would want a class to *both*
>> be an enumerated type, *and* have callable attributes in its API.
>
> Perhaps I am using Enum incorrectly, but here is
Dan Stromberg :
> [on how SO_REUSEADDR is a security risk]
> Start an echo server process P that listens on tcp/.
>
> Initiate a connection from a client machine to process P at tcp/. It
> works as expected.
>
> Kill P.
>
> Initiate a connection from a client machine to process P at tcp/55
On 6/28/2018 9:05 PM, Avon wrote:
On 06/28/18, Grant Edwards pondered and said...
GE> OK, I've got to ask...
GE> Why are there still BBSes?
GE>
GE> Who even has a modem these days? [OK, I'll admit my 11 year old
GE> Thinkpad T500 has a built-in POTS modem, but it's never been used.
Ethan Furman writes:
> On 06/28/2018 05:58 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> > So I remain dumbfounded as to why anyone would want a class to *both* be
> > an enumerated type, *and* have callable attributes in its API.
>
> Perhaps I am using Enum incorrectly, but here is my FederalHoliday
> Enum. […]
Th
On 06/28/2018 05:58 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
So I remain dumbfounded as to why anyone would want a class to *both* be
an enumerated type, *and* have callable attributes in its API.
Perhaps I am using Enum incorrectly, but here is my FederalHoliday Enum. Note that date(), next_business_day, and
On 06/28/18, Grant Edwards pondered and said...
GE> OK, I've got to ask...
GE> Why are there still BBSes?
GE>
GE> Who even has a modem these days? [OK, I'll admit my 11 year old
GE> Thinkpad T500 has a built-in POTS modem, but it's never been used.]
Hi Grant.
How long do you have? :)
Mo
On 06/28/18, Tim Golden pondered and said...
TG> (Wearing my List Moderator hat)
TG>
TG> Thanks very much for addressing this for us, and to Cameron and others
TG> who did the detective work. I admit I assumed at first it was some kind
TG> of odd attack perhaps related to a dissatisfied pos
On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 20:34:58 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> Ethan Furman writes:
>
>> Consider the following Enum definition:
>>
>> class Color(Enum):
>> RED = 1
>> GREEN = 2
>> BLUE = 3
>> @property
>> def lower(self):
>> return self.name.lower()
>> d
On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Dan Stromberg :
> > On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 10:31 PM, Marko Rauhamaa
> wrote:
> >> Dan Stromberg :
> >> >> > The problem can be solved by turning on the SO_REUSEADDR flag of
> >> >> > the socket.
> >> > BTW, it's a security feature you're
On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 08:36:47 -0700, Ethan Furman wrote:
>>> Answer:
>>>
>>> - RED, GREEN, and BLUE are members
>>> - lower and spam() are not
>>> - SomeClass /is/ a member (but not its instances)
>>
>> Is that by accident or by design?
>
> By design. It is entirely possible to want a
Ian Kelly writes:
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 4:38 AM Ben Finney wrote:
> >
> > Ethan Furman writes:
> >
> > Specifically, I can't make sense of why someone would want to have a
> > class that is simultaneously behaving as an enumerated type, *and*
> > has an API of custom callable attributes.
>
On 6/28/2018 6:45 PM, Elliott Roper wrote:
On 28 Jun 2018, Terry Reedy wrote
There is a pip command for making an editable file of installed
packages. Run that in 3.6, perhaps after updating everything.
There is another pip command for using that file to install everything
listed. Run that i
On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 23:27:38 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Dan Stromberg :
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 10:31 PM, Marko Rauhamaa
>> wrote:
>>> Dan Stromberg :
>>> >> > The problem can be solved by turning on the SO_REUSEADDR flag of
>>> >> > the socket.
>>> > BTW, it's a security feature you're tu
On 06/28/18 16:44, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I agree with you that it's a bad idea.
Aside from the little fact that you described concerns about using Python
code for settings as "silly".
Umm, no. I said that worrying about arbitrary code execution in an
interpreted language seemed silly.
On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 10:58:36 -0700, Jim Lee wrote:
> On 06/28/18 07:30, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> I still maintain it's a bad idea to run arbitrary code found in
>> user-edited config files.
>>
>> There may be cases where somebody has figured out how to muck with a
>> config file that's shared among
On 28 Jun 2018, Terry Reedy wrote
(in article):
> On 6/28/2018 1:08 PM, Elliott Roper wrote:
> > I have done something stupid. Don't know what.
>
> It appears that you ran 3.7 expecting that modules installed for 3.6
> would magically be available for 3.7.
Yes indeed. It worked for 3.4, 3.5, and 3
On 06/28/18 11:45, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2018-06-28, Jim Lee wrote:
On 06/28/18 07:34, Grant Edwards wrote:
OK, I've got to ask...
Why are there still BBSes?
Who even has a modem these days? [OK, I'll admit my 11 year old
Thinkpad T500 has a built-in POTS modem, but it's never been use
I am sorry to report that the PyYAML-4.1 release from 48 hours ago has been
removed from PyPI
There were too many problems to make this a viable release.
The biggest known issue with this retraction is that PyYAML will not work
with the new Python 3.7 until PyYAML-4.2 is released.
https://github
Dan Stromberg :
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 10:31 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Dan Stromberg :
>> >> > The problem can be solved by turning on the SO_REUSEADDR flag of
>> >> > the socket.
>> > BTW, it's a security feature you're turning off. If you're on a
>> > multiuser box, it prevents a second us
On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 10:31 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Dan Stromberg :
> >> > The problem can be solved by turning on the SO_REUSEADDR flag of
> >> > the socket.
> > BTW, it's a security feature you're turning off. If you're on a
> > multiuser box, it prevents a second user from stealing linge
On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 8:49 AM, T Berger wrote:
> Why am I getting this error? I'm not sure what additional information I
> need to supply, so please let me know.
AIUI, there are 2 possible causes. You either have some other process
listening on the requested port, or a process that Was using
On 2018-06-28, Jim Lee wrote:
>
>
> On 06/28/18 07:34, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> OK, I've got to ask...
>>
>> Why are there still BBSes?
>>
>> Who even has a modem these days? [OK, I'll admit my 11 year old
>> Thinkpad T500 has a built-in POTS modem, but it's never been used.]
>>
> BBS's are most o
On 06/28/18 07:30, Grant Edwards wrote:
I still maintain it's a bad idea to run arbitrary code found in
user-edited config files.
There may be cases where somebody has figured out how to muck with a
config file that's shared among multiple users, or has tricked
somebody into including somethin
On 06/28/18 07:34, Grant Edwards wrote:
OK, I've got to ask...
Why are there still BBSes?
Who even has a modem these days? [OK, I'll admit my 11 year old
Thinkpad T500 has a built-in POTS modem, but it's never been used.]
BBS's are most often connected to via telnet these days. There are
On 06/28/18 00:46, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Yes, attacks by trusted insiders are the hardest to defend against.
Betrayal of trust sucks. Trusted users with sufficient privileges could
just modify the source code of your application or of Python itself. They
could also attack your system in a tho
On 6/28/2018 1:08 PM, Elliott Roper wrote:
I have done something stupid. Don't know what.
It appears that you ran 3.7 expecting that modules installed for 3.6
would magically be available for 3.7.
There is a pip command for making an editable file of installed
packages. Run that in 3.6, pe
Yep. We do not have enough people reviewing patches. Perhaps you could
do so with this one.
On 6/28/2018 12:02 PM, Marco Prosperi wrote:
hello, just to give evidence that there is a bug in python 3.6/3.7 for
which there is a patch prepared a long time ago but probably it has never
been applie
I have done something stupid. Don't know what.
My $PATH looks like this
XXXMac:~ elliott$ echo $PATH
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/bin:/Library/Frameworks/Pyth
on.framework/Versions/3.6/bin:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.
5/bin:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framew
On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 4:38 AM Ben Finney wrote:
>
> Ethan Furman writes:
>
> > Consider the following Enum definition:
> >
> > class Color(Enum):
> > RED = 1
> > GREEN = 2
> > BLUE = 3
> > @property
> > def lower(self):
> > return self.name.lower()
> >
hello, just to give evidence that there is a bug in python 3.6/3.7 for
which there is a patch prepared a long time ago but probably it has never
been applied because the status/stage of the bug is 'needs patch'.
https://bugs.python.org/issue29097
Marco
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On 06/28/2018 01:11 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 07:48:53 -0700, Ethan Furman wrote:
[Note: there is a similar thread on Python-Ideas, if you would like to
respond there.]
Consider the following Enum definition:
class Color(Enum):
RED = 1
GREEN = 2
On 2018-06-28, Kerr Avon wrote:
> Yep confirming I found the issue lay with the sysop of a BBS that connects
> to the gateway linked to news.bbs.nz
OK, I've got to ask...
Why are there still BBSes?
Who even has a modem these days? [OK, I'll admit my 11 year old
Thinkpad T500 has a built-in P
On 2018-06-28, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> So why give them the ability to escalate their privilege to that of
> your application (which probably can do lots of things they can't
> do) by directly executing Python code they supply?
To be fair, that situation isn't common. The vast majority of
appl
On Thursday 28 June 2018 06:35:13 Alister via Python-list wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 14:30:15 -0700, Rob Gaddi wrote:
> > On 06/27/2018 02:14 PM, skybuck2...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> Now I don't like the French much ! LOL.
> >>
> >> But this time they have invented something which will fill
> >>
On 28/06/18 10:14, ojas gupta wrote:
I just downloaded and installed python 3.7.0 on my PC and whenever I tried
to launch the application it showed "error" saying python runtime dll
missing... and that too is happening despite i downloaded the official
licenced product from python.org
I a
I just downloaded and installed python 3.7.0 on my PC and whenever I tried
to launch the application it showed "error" saying python runtime dll
missing... and that too is happening despite i downloaded the official
licenced product from python.org
I am attaching a photo clicked by me when t
On 28/06/18 02:23, Andrew von Bevern wrote:
I have tried to install python on my home laptop several times, using 3.6
or 3.7. Each time I get the following error - anyone know what I am doing
wrong?
[image: image.png]
I'm sorry, but this mailing list removes attachments (for perfectly
sensible
On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 14:30:15 -0700, Rob Gaddi wrote:
> On 06/27/2018 02:14 PM, skybuck2...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Now I don't like the French much ! LOL.
>>
>> But this time they have invented something which will fill programmers
>> with tears of joy ! =D
>>
>> http://www.euronews.com/2018/06/27
Ethan Furman writes:
> Consider the following Enum definition:
>
> class Color(Enum):
> RED = 1
> GREEN = 2
> BLUE = 3
> @property
> def lower(self):
> return self.name.lower()
> def spam(self):
> return "I like %s eggs and spam!" % self.l
On 28/06/2018 09:05, Kerr Avon wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 21:43:12 +1200, Avon wrote:
Hey Cameron,
Apologies for this. I have contacted the Fido system connected to the
gateway I run into news.bbs.nz and have asked them to urgently sort /
check what's up. If I don't get any joy from them withi
On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 21:43:12 +1200, Avon wrote:
> Hey Cameron,
>
> Apologies for this. I have contacted the Fido system connected to the
> gateway I run into news.bbs.nz and have asked them to urgently sort /
> check what's up. If I don't get any joy from them within the next 24
> hours I will de
On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 07:48:53 -0700, Ethan Furman wrote:
> [Note: there is a similar thread on Python-Ideas, if you would like to
> respond there.]
>
> Consider the following Enum definition:
>
>class Color(Enum):
>RED = 1
>GREEN = 2
>BLUE = 3
>@property
>
On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 16:09:09 -0700, Jim Lee wrote:
> On 06/27/18 15:19, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 12:15:23 -0700, Jim Lee wrote:
>>
>>> It seems a bit silly to me to worry about arbitrary code
>>> execution in
>>> an interpreted language like Python whose default runtim
text-only list, can you please copy paste the error?
thank you,
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ
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I have tried to install python on my home laptop several times, using 3.6
or 3.7. Each time I get the following error - anyone know what I am doing
wrong?
[image: image.png]
thanks in advance
Andrew
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