On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 10:58, wrote:
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> Chris,
>
> You seem to have perceived an insult that I remain unaware of.
If you're not aware that you're saying this, then don't say it.
> I looked up FUD and sharply disagree with suggestions I am trying to somehow
> cause Fear, Uncertainty or Doubt. I
Chris,
You seem to have perceived an insult that I remain unaware of.
I have no special knowledge, like you do, of plans made for changes to the
pthon language and implementation.
I was asking a hypothetical question about what some users would do if
python came out with a newer major version.
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 09:20, wrote:
> My point was that version 4 COULD HAPPEN one day and I meant INCOMPATIBLE
> version not 4. Obviously we can make a version 4 that is not incompatible
> too.
This is still FUD. Back your words with something, or stop trying to
imply that there's another
Chris,
I don't want to get off message and debate whether my "jokes" are jokes, let
alone funny. Obviously, they often aren't.
What I meant by joking here does seem relevant. As the years pass, there can
come a time when it is suggested that a language (any language including
python) is no
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 23:52, Greg Ewing via Python-list
wrote:
> On 13/06/24 10:09 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > So if anyone
> > actually does need to use pip with Python 2.7, they probably need to
> > set up a local server
>
> You should also be able to download a .tar.gz from PyPI and use
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 08:46, Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
wrote:
> I don't know much about SSL and related networking things especially
> on Windows. I would be surprised if pip on old Python can't install
> from current PyPI though. I imagine that something strange has
> happened like a new
On 13/06/24 4:31 am, avi.e.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
It seems Microsoft is having a problem where something lik 2/3 of Windows
users have not upgraded from Windows 10 after many years
At least Python 3 is a clear improvement over Python 2 in many ways.
Whereas the only thing Microsoft seems to
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 23:11, Chris Angelico via Python-list
wrote:
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> On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 07:57, Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
> wrote:
> > They are seeing a warning that explicitly says "You can upgrade to a
> > newer version of Python to solve this". I don't know whether that SSL
> >
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 07:57, Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
wrote:
> They are seeing a warning that explicitly says "You can upgrade to a
> newer version of Python to solve this". I don't know whether that SSL
> warning is directly connected to pip not finding any versions of numpy
> but with
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 22:38, AVI GROSS via Python-list
wrote:
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> The discussion though was about a specific OP asking if they can fix their
> problem. One solution being suggested is to fix a deeper problem and simply
> make their code work with a recent version of python 3.
The OP has not
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 07:36, wrote:
> But if the goal was to deprecate python 2 and in some sense phase it out, it
> is perhaps not working well for some. Frankly, issuing so many updates like
> 2.7 and including backporting of new features has helped make it possible to
> delay any upgrade.
Chris,
Since you misunderstood, my statement was that making an incompatible set of
changes to create Python 3 in the first place was a decision made by some
and perhaps not one that thrilled others who already had an embedded base of
programs or ones in the pipeline that would need much work to
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 06:55, Thomas Passin via Python-list
wrote:
> The project cannot move to a Python-3 compatible version because Jython
> 3.xx doesn't exist and may never exist. The saving grace is that my
> project doesn't have to use packages like numpy, scipy, and so forth.
Exactly. If
On 6/12/2024 1:59 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 03:41, AVI GROSS via Python-list
wrote:
Change is hard even when it may be necessary.
The argument often is about whether some things are necessary or not.
Python made a decision but clearly not a unanimous
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 03:41, AVI GROSS via Python-list
wrote:
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> Change is hard even when it may be necessary.
>
> The argument often is about whether some things are necessary or not.
>
> Python made a decision but clearly not a unanimous one.
What decision? To not release any new versions of
Change is hard even when it may be necessary.
The argument often is about whether some things are necessary or not.
Python made a decision but clearly not a unanimous one.
My current PC was not upgradable because of the new hardware requirement
Microsoft decided was needed for Windows 11. I
On 2024-06-12 17:31, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote:
I am sure there is inertia to move from an older product and some people
need a reason like this where the old becomes untenable.
It seems Microsoft is having a problem where something lik 2/3 of Windows
users have not upgraded from Windows
I am sure there is inertia to move from an older product and some people
need a reason like this where the old becomes untenable.
It seems Microsoft is having a problem where something lik 2/3 of Windows
users have not upgraded from Windows 10 after many years and have set a
deadline in a year or
On 12/06/2024 12:30, marc nicole wrote:
I am trying to install numpy library on Python 2.7.15 in PyCharm but the
error message I get is:
ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement numpy (from
versions: none)
ERROR: No matching distribution found for numpy
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 21:32, marc nicole via Python-list
wrote:
>
> I am trying to install numpy library on Python 2.7.15 in PyCharm but the
> error message I get is:
>
> You can upgrade to a newer version of Python to solve this.
The answer is right there in the error message.
ChrisA
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I am trying to install numpy library on Python 2.7.15 in PyCharm but the
error message I get is:
ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement numpy (from
> versions: none)
> ERROR: No matching distribution found for numpy
>
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