bruno modulix wrote:
Magnus Lycka wrote:
N.Davis wrote:
Functions existing in a module? Surely if everything is an object
(OK thats Java-talk but supposedly Python will eventually follow this
too)
int too? ;)
Yes, int too.
I was talking about everything being an object in Java
Terry Reedy wrote:
However, everything is an instance of a class or type.
Except whitespace, comments, operators and statements!
(Did I miss anything?)
You can obviously argue whether a variable (or name if
you like) is an object, or just refers to an object, but
then we're getting
Daniel Schüle wrote:
I just tried the same code at home and it worked fine
it has to do with windows .. some settings or whatever
(python 2.4.1 installed on both)
maybe someone have experienced the same problem
and had more luck in solving the puzzle
First of all: Windows is a whole family
N.Davis wrote:
Functions existing in a module? Surely if everything is an object (OK
thats Java-talk but supposedly Python will eventually follow this too)
int too? ;)
Actaully, I think Python and Java are fairly much on equal footing
here, with Java possibly being slightly behind rather
Peter Hansen wrote:
(Not trying to argue, just understand, because it looks like you're
conflating Forth programs with Forth implementations, or perhaps I'm
even more ignorant than noted above and am missing a key point. :-)
It's decades since I coded Forth, but I suspect that Forth
Shane Hathaway wrote:
However, isn't this thoroughly un-Pythonic? No wonder people have to
ask.
Only if they've never read KR, and I thought that was compulsory! ;^)
There are a few python libraries, such as time and math, that are
basically just thin wrappers around standard C libraries. In
Martin P. Hellwig wrote:
Kevin wrote:
cut, can't get as many python web hosters as I want
Well, for some strange reason I have never found that to be a problem.
If you develop software for an external customer, and they have
an existing web site run by some ISP that you have no control over,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
class TrainingMatrix:
matrix = []
estimator = {}
wordInfo = {}
contextInfo = {}
totalWordsProcessed = 0
numWords = 0
numContexts = 0
matrixWords = 0
Is there some confusion between the scope of the class
object and the scopes of
Shane Hathaway wrote:
time.time() measures real time, while time.clock() measures the time the
CPU dedicates to your program.
I suppose that varies with the platform... help(time.clock) says:
Help on built-in function clock:
clock(...)
clock() - floating point number
Return the
Thomas Bartkus wrote:
I was thinking of Win32com which I expect lets you put a wrapper around ADO
and work the ADO (or any other ActiveX) object model from within Python.
Sure, but since others have made wrappers around ADO for Python before,
you'd either reivent the wheel or or use e.g.
I think Python works on fairly antique hardware, whatever
OS you use (as long as the OS works ok). You can get a DOS
version of Python 2.2 at http://www.caddit.net/ , but I don't
have any good suggestions for a UI then. This might work after
some tweaking:
Negroup wrote:
Hi all.
I'm writing a simple Python module containing functions to process
strings in various ways. Actually it works importing the module that
contains the function I'm interested in, and calling
my_module.my_function('mystring').
I was just asking if it is possible to
Cameron Laird wrote:
OK, I'm with you part of the way. Typical Access developers
are *always* involved with DLL hell, right? You're surely not
saying that Python worsens that frustration, are you?
I think Dan was commenting on flaws in Microsoft's products,
not in Python. As I understand
Alberto Vera wrote:
Hello:
I found a script that convert a file to PDF format , but it was made in PHP
Do you know any script using Python?
What do you mean by convert a file to PDF format? The solution
obviously depends on what the file you start with looks like. If
you want to create PDF
Thomas Bartkus wrote:
Magnus Lycka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
The O.P. wanted a database for his
Python app, and Thomas Bartkus suggested Access.
Not exactly!
Sorty, I meant Jet or whatever the backend is called these days.
I suggested the built in Microsoft DAO or ADO
Remi Villatel wrote:
Erm... You totally missed the point. I wrote it this way because, first,
it's perfectly valid Python code and, second and most important, it's
also a valid english sentence.
Remi, I think you have failed to understand what Fredrik was
telling you. I can understand that,
Will McGugan wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to write a windows app that accesses a locally stored database.
There are a number of tables, the largest of which has 455,905 records.
Can anyone recommend a database that runs on Windows, is fast /
efficient and can be shipped without restrictions or
Thomas Bartkus wrote:
If you are writing strictly for the MS Windows platform
And
If the database is running single user with a locally stored database on a
Windows workstation.
Then
The MS Access file based (.mdb) system is hard to argue with.
I disagree. What does .mdb/jet without
Gregory Piñero wrote:
I always figured a problem with using MySQL was distribution. Would
you have to tell your users to install MySQL and then to leave the
service running? I've never found an easy way to embed MySQL into a
python app, and even if you could, would you then have to pay for
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gruëzi, Gerald ;-)
Well, ok, but I don't understand why I should first convert a pure
unicode string into a byte string.
The encoding ( here, latin-1) seems an arbitrary choice.
Yes. The correct choice would be 'cp1252', not 'latin-1',
since that's what your locale
Remi Villatel wrote:
while True:
some(code)
if final_condition is True:
break
#
#
What I don't find so nice is to have to build an infinite loop only to
break it.
This is a common Python idiom. I think you will get used to it.
Is there a better recipe?
Chinook wrote:
I understand what you are saying. The point I'm messing up my head with
though, is when the entity (tree node in my case or variable record content
deconstructing in the aspect example I noted) is not an instance of a class
already - it is obtained from an external source
Benji York wrote:
If by economy you mean optimization, then I would suggest that the
difference would be unnoticeable.
If there is a measurable performance gain in skipping the runtime
test in while True, then this is a compiler issue, not a language
issue. I don't know anything about the
Konstantin Veretennicov wrote:
On 6/21/05, Magnus Lycka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know anything about the Python compiler internals,
but it doesn't seem very hard to identify simple literals following
while and if, and to skip the runtime test. (Perhaps it's done
already?)
True
James wrote:
The brain may be fine for generating Python from UML but it is MANY
MANY orders of magnitude harder to generate UML from code with just
your brain than using a tool (usually zero effort and error free) no
matter how good you are at Python.
I've really only used Rational Rose, but
huy wrote:
Hi,
I'm using cherrypy to provide a user interface for users to start a
linux server program eg. os.system(nohup myserver.py ). The problem
is that if I stop cherrypy server and restart, I get the Address
Already In Use problem until I stop myserver.py. Can someone shed some
Greg Ewing wrote:
Magnus Lycka wrote:
Due to the cycle, you can never use file1 without
file2 or vice versa. Why do you then want it to be
two different modules instead of one?
Perhaps because it would then be too big and
unwieldy to maintain?
Sometimes there are legitimate reasons
M1st0 wrote:
Ops yes is BNF :P Bacus Normal Form if I am not wrong...
Backus Naur Form.
John Backus and Peter Naur first used it to describe ALGOL around 1960.
See e.g.
http://cui.unige.ch/db-research/Enseignement/analyseinfo/AboutBNF.html
--
Philippe C. Martin wrote:
I now need to generate the HTML wxHtmlEasyPrinting can print: I need to have
a title followed by lines of text that do not look too ugly. If possible I
would like to use an existing module.
How to do this really depends on what your data looks like, and how you
get
Scott David Daniels wrote:
Magnus Lycka wrote:
It seems to me that *real* computer scientists are very rare.
I suspect the analysis of algorithms people are among that group.
It is intriguing to me when you can determine a lower and upper
bound on the time for the best solution
Peter Maas wrote:
Learning is investigating. By top-down I mean high level (cat,
dog, table sun, sky) to low level (molecules, atoms, fields ...).
Aha. So you must learn cosmology first then. I don't think so. ;)
I don't know if you really think that you learn things top
down, but I doubt that
I'm CC:ing this to D'Arcy J.M. Cain. (See comp.lang.python for prequel
D'Arcy.)
Christopher J. Bottaro wrote:
Check this out...
code
import pgdb
import time
print time.ctime()
db = pgdb.connect(user='test', host='localhost', database='test')
time.sleep(5)
db.cursor().execute('insert
You might have spotted a fairly nasty bug there!
Christopher J. Bottaro wrote:
Hi,
Why is there no support for explicit transactions in the DB API? I mean
like transaction() to start the trans and commit() and rollback() would end
the trans or something.
To quote from Date Darwen A Guide
Maksim Kasimov wrote:
hi all, sorry if i'm reposting
why time.strptime and time.localtime returns tuple with different DST (9
item of the tuple)?
I've been bitten by the quirks in the time modules so many times
that I would advice against using it for any date handling. It's
ok for time
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I am writing a Python program that needs to read XML files and contruct
a tree object from the XML file (using wxTree).
The XML however is not an hiearchical XML file. It contains elements
and association tags. The assiociation tags link the elements
together.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I have two modules (file1.py and file2.py)
Is that ok in python (without any weird implication) if my module
import each other. I mean in module file1.py there exist command import
file2 and in module file2.py there exist command import file1?
Even if it
John Abel wrote:
Magnus Lycka wrote:
As a programmer on Win32, and *nix platforms, I agree with needing
better tools. however, I find cygwin a pita. For tools such as grep
and find, try this http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/. No need for cygwin
( though that's not say cygwin isn't
Paul Rubin wrote:
Magnus Lycka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Of course, one might suggest that it's the task of the browser,
and not of the scripting language, to provide a safe sandbox
where scripts can mess around and without causing havoc on
your computer. Such a system in the browser could
Terry Reedy wrote:
This should REALLY be on the doc page of the Python site.
Agreed.
It is really time to stop pretending that the only Python users
that count have a *nix on their desk.
I agree with this too, but if you're a programmer
on the Windows platform with possibility to install
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thanks for your input...
well I just find out that modifying environment through ksh call is not
possible (can't get the new evironment back to python).
I thought about this a few days ago. Can't you copy it like this:
import os
env_rows = os.popen('. some.script
rbt wrote:
data = ['0', 'a', '1', 'b', '2', 'c',\
'3', 'd', '4', 'e', '5', 'f',\
'6', 'g', '7', 'h', '8', 'i',\
'9', 'j', '~', '!', '@', '#',\
'$', '%', '^', '', '*', ';']
Note that the backslashes
praba kar wrote:
Dear All,
I have one doubt. Is there python.ini
file like php.ini in Php?
There is no such thing in Python. Python is a programming
language. It doesn't try to be an operating system or a web
server. There are a number of web application toolkits
written in Python, but
Skip Montanaro wrote:
Glade is fine for building Gtk user interfaces. I have no idea if there are
similar tools for other widget sets, though I wouldn't be surprised if such
tools existed. Once the GUI is fairly stable, most of the development after
that occurs in the underlying functional
GMane Python wrote:
I'd like to consider making a program which is 'seti-like' where I could run
a command-line Python script to just 'do something', and then be able to
launch a viewer program (maybe linux x11 or Windows, possibly over a network
socket) using wxPython to be able to inter-act
Rune Strand wrote:
What would it take to create a Firefox extension that enables Python as
a script language in the browser - just like Javascript? Is it at all
possible? Are the hundred good reasons not to bother?
There are certainly security issues. A simple implementation
that started a
Jeff Elkins wrote:
I've like to use python to maintain a small addressbook which lives on a
Sharp
Zaurus. This list will never grow beyond 200 or so entries. I've installed
pyxml.
Speaking generally, given a wxpython app to do data entry,
I'm planning to:
1. parse the addressbook
Gerrit van Dyk wrote:
Try using raw_input() instead of the sys.stdin.readline(). raw_input()
is the preferred way of getting console input.
Is it? Guido's Python Regrets slides (Google for them) seems
to say the opposite. Besides, that's not the problem here...
Alexander Zatvornitskiy wrote:
Thank's a lot Andrew and Dennis.
Andrew Dalke wrote:
You can set the class variable allow_reuse_address = True in
your derived ExitableSocketServer to get the behaviour you
expect, at the expense of some problems mentioned in the
above URL.
Ok. I added a STOP message to my protocol, so now
Mir Nazim wrote:
Hi,
I m planning to use ZODB for an applicaton. Is any one aware of report
generators like Data Vision, Crystal Reports, fo python object
databases.
ZODB isn't like a relational database. It doesn't have a
query language etc. In other words, a report generator for
a ZODB
Mark Sargent wrote:
A question I have, is, those of you who use it
for the same things, what do you primarily use it for.
Erh, I'm sure different people use it for very different things.
In contrast to e.g. PHP or bash, Python is a very generic language
usable for most preogramming tasks. My
gry@ll.mit.edu wrote:
I have a string like:
{'the','dog\'s','bite'}
or maybe:
{'the'}
or sometimes:
{}
...
I want to end up with a python array of strings like:
['the', dog's, 'bite']
Assuming that you trust the input, you could always use eval,
but since it seems fairly easy to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks! I was trying len(cpn_version) and that didn't work.
What's your problem? You get a value that's one more than
you expected? You should use splitlines() instead of split('\n'),
or easier, use readlines() instead of read(). Of course, with
a modern python you can
Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
... for drive in string.letters[len(string.letters)/2:]:
Or better...
..for drive in string.ascii_uppercase:
string.letters differ with locale, but Windows drives are always
only A-Z (right?) and just iterating over upper case (or lower)
seems more clear than
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
print is a statement, not a function. The brackets are syntactically
correct, but pointless. Remove them.
...
On Sat, 28 May 2005 13:24:19 +, Michael wrote:
while( newNS ):
Guido (our Benevolent Dictator For Life and creator of Python) hates
seeing whitespace
Antal Rutz wrote:
Hi, All!
I'm new to threading. I have some design questions:
Task: I collect data and store them in an RDBMS (mysql or pgsql)
The question is how to do that with threading?
The data-collecting piece of the code runs in a thread.
1. Open the db, and each thread writes
I have a socket server like below which I want to exit when
it's out of data. If I interrupt the client, I'll get a
broken pipe on the server side, and after a Ctrl-C, I can
restart the server again, but if I let it run out of data,
and exit via handle_error as can be seen below, I will get
a
Terry Reedy wrote:
Difference annoyances for different folks, I guess.
IN MY EXPERIENCE, MANY PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET ARE
ANNOYED BY PEOPLE WHO DON'T USE CASE THE WAY THEY
ARE EXPECTED. IT ALSO SEEMS TO ME THAT LOWER CASE
TEXT IS OFTEN MORE EASY TO READ, AND ALSO THAT IT
IS EASIER TO SCAN TEXTS
john67 wrote:
The company I work for is about to embark on developing a commercial
application that will cost us tens-of-millions to develop. When all is
said and done it will have thousands of business objects/classes,
Ok, that sounds like a big app, but does it really have to be like
that,
len wrote:
I am an old time
cobol programmer from the IBM 360/370 eria and this ingrained idea of
file processing using file definition (FD's) I believe is causing me
problems because I think python requires a different way of looking at
datafiles and I haven't really gotten my brain around
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