Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-24 Thread Jorge Mazzonelli
Maybe I'm missing the point but the mozilla platform doesn't meet you're needs? I know it's not a pure python solution but there's work in progress to use python as a scripting language instead of javascript to develop the components. I did not made anything on the python + XUL side but tested 2 y

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-19 Thread Ben Finney
Wildemar Wildenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I really, really appreciate the effort you (all of you) make in > helping me and getting me on the right track, but I'm a bit > confounded by how you can be trying to convince me that the tools > I'm currently reading the docs for don't exist. I

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-19 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Ben Finney wrote: > You already have Python, and can embed it in your program. The only > missing piece seems to be the primitive operations at the core, which > surely depend on what exactly it is you have in mind for your program > and can't really be provided in a generic form by some other part

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-19 Thread Stef Mientki
Jarek Zgoda wrote: > Stef Mientki napisał(a): > >> I took a look at some of the examples build with eclipse, >> and I might be wrong, but it's just another IDE, >> (like Delphi, Lazarus, Visual Basic, Kylix, Pida, Envisage, VisualWX, >> wxGlade, ...) >> what am I missing ? > > I think you miss th

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-18 Thread Ben Finney
Wildemar Wildenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think what most people think of when they hear "plugin" is: An > Application that can be extended. > An RCP provides no more than the next step: No monolithic app, just > plugins (which can have plugins themselves (which can have plugins > them

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-18 Thread Jarek Zgoda
Stef Mientki napisał(a): > I took a look at some of the examples build with eclipse, > and I might be wrong, but it's just another IDE, > (like Delphi, Lazarus, Visual Basic, Kylix, Pida, Envisage, VisualWX, > wxGlade, ...) > what am I missing ? I think you miss the difference between Eclipse IDE

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-18 Thread Stef Mientki
Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: > Stef Mientki wrote: >> I took a look at Eclipse page you mentioned but after reading the >> first page I still don't understand what you mean (and I never read >> beyond the first page ;-). >> > Well, what can I say ... > ;) > > >> With a plugin system, I can t

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-18 Thread Peter Wang
On May 18, 1:10 pm, Wildemar Wildenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure, but you guys seem a bit Windows-centric. I have yet to > find out if the egg-approach actually works for Linux (and Mac, though I > don't use it) as well. It does. We have several linux and mac-based developers h

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-18 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Peter Wang wrote: > Actually, just this week, we completed a major SVN reorganization and > from this point forward, all of the libraries in ETS will be released > as eggs. In fact, eggs have been available for a long time for python > 2.4, and now we have them for python 2.5 as well. > > I'm n

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-18 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Stef Mientki wrote: > I took a look at Eclipse page you mentioned but after reading the first page > I still don't > understand what you mean (and I never read beyond the first page ;-). > Well, what can I say ... ;) > With a plugin system, I can think of a complete operating system, > or I

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-18 Thread Kirk Job Sluder
Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I took a look at Eclipse page you mentioned but after reading the > first page I still don't understand what you mean (and I never read > beyond the first page ;-). > With a plugin system, I can think of a complete operating system, > or I can think of so

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-18 Thread Peter Wang
On May 18, 10:15 am, Wildemar Wildenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > stefaan wrote: > > To make it short again:http://code.enthought.com/ets/ > > Nice, seems very interesting. Bit of a bitch to set up, as it appears > from scanning the site, but that might be it. Actually, just this week, we co

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-18 Thread Stef Mientki
Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: > Jarek Zgoda wrote: >> There are few GUI frameworks building on various toolkits. I used to use >> Kiwi for PyGTK, it's mature and stable, although the approach is not the >> same as, for example, Delphi > Thanks for the effort, but I think I'm not well understood. I'm

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-18 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
stefaan wrote: >> To make it short: Is there something like this already? > > To make it short again: http://code.enthought.com/ets/ > > Nice, seems very interesting. Bit of a bitch to set up, as it appears from scanning the site, but that might be it. Thanks :) Now for the everlasting circle

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-18 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Jarek Zgoda wrote: >> I've never used Eclipse (beyond proving that it runs on various >> computers). Can you please describe what behaviour you're looking for? >> > > The key is not "Eclipse" itself, but the whole Eclipse Platform. > > See http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Rich_Client_Platform

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-18 Thread stefaan
> To make it short: Is there something like this already? To keep it short: yes. To make it longer: not sure about its status... i've never tried it myself. To make it short again: http://code.enthought.com/ets/ I also know some people are trying to create something called pyxides, but also there

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-18 Thread Jarek Zgoda
Ben Finney napisał(a): >> Thanks for the effort, but I think I'm not well understood. I'm not >> looking for a GUI framework (which, by the way, is most likely to be >> wxPython), but for a pure plugin architecture. A >> rich-client-platform, as it is sometimes called. Nothing specific >> about an

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-18 Thread Ben Finney
Wildemar Wildenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thanks for the effort, but I think I'm not well understood. I'm not > looking for a GUI framework (which, by the way, is most likely to be > wxPython), but for a pure plugin architecture. A > rich-client-platform, as it is sometimes called. Nothi

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-18 Thread Jarek Zgoda
Wildemar Wildenburger napisał(a): >> There are few GUI frameworks building on various toolkits. I used to use >> Kiwi for PyGTK, it's mature and stable, although the approach is not the >> same as, for example, Delphi > Thanks for the effort, but I think I'm not well understood. I'm not > looking

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-18 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Jarek Zgoda wrote: > There are few GUI frameworks building on various toolkits. I used to use > Kiwi for PyGTK, it's mature and stable, although the approach is not the > same as, for example, Delphi Thanks for the effort, but I think I'm not well understood. I'm not looking for a GUI framework (w

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-18 Thread Jarek Zgoda
Wildemar Wildenburger napisał(a): > To make it short: Is there something like this already? > > There seem to loads of python frameworks for Web-Apps, but I have a hard > time finding one for desktop-apps. > I imagine it wouldn't be too hard (if still time consuming) whipping up > something simpl

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-17 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> There seem to loads of python frameworks for Web-Apps, but I have a hard >> time finding one for desktop-apps. >> I imagine it wouldn't be too hard (if still time consuming) whipping up >> something simple myself, but I thought, I'd ask here before diving into it. >>

Re: (Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-17 Thread memracom
> There seem to loads of python frameworks for Web-Apps, but I have a hard > time finding one for desktop-apps. > I imagine it wouldn't be too hard (if still time consuming) whipping up > something simple myself, but I thought, I'd ask here before diving into it. Sounds like you should look at DAB

(Modular-)Application Framework / Rich-Client-Platform in Python

2007-05-17 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
To make it short: Is there something like this already? There seem to loads of python frameworks for Web-Apps, but I have a hard time finding one for desktop-apps. I imagine it wouldn't be too hard (if still time consuming) whipping up something simple myself, but I thought, I'd ask here before