On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:11:43 -0500, rumours say that phil
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I wonder what percentage of the tools you refer to are
Eclipse and not Java per se. ?? I don't know.
The really big bucks of IBM sent Eclipse through the roof.
The project name is pretty offensive
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:57:36 -0700, xeys_00 wrote:
The other alternative
is to install console mode linux on it and hope that the ncurses library
can be used by python.
Hi, for curses module and linux, I made a library which give you
various widgets (combobox, buttons,checkbox,menubar,...).
I think Python works on fairly antique hardware, whatever
OS you use (as long as the OS works ok). You can get a DOS
version of Python 2.2 at http://www.caddit.net/ , but I don't
have any good suggestions for a UI then. This might work after
some tweaking:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, phil wrote:
Wow! How about a sextant? Simple device really. And a great practical
demonstration of trigonometry.
Excellent idea, even found a few how to sites. We'll do it.
Any others?
A ballista? For many years when i was a kid, my dad wanted to build a
ballista; he
phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From 30 years of application development experience I will tell you
NOT HUMBLY, that Python is easily the most productive, the most read-write
and the most elegant of any of the above. Handsdown better than Java, the
runner up in that group.
I don't want to
I don't want to start a flamewar here -
No heat, no flames. Everyone's cool
Let me emphasize a little more. Even though Python itself is great, I think we
don't have quite yet tools that offer
Ya know, I just don't know enough about javaworld.
The language I do not like.
I wonder what
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:11:43 -0400, phil wrote
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Comes down to preference. Isn't it absolutely amazing how many
choices we have. Remember the 70's - Cobol, ASM, C, Basic.CICS(shudder)
And please, no eulogies (especially for CICS) - being reminded of them is
The question was about someone with limited programming experience
building simple easy to use programs on Windows. This is the niche where
VB and Delphi realy shine. Python with TkInter is kind of o.k., I realy
like Python+PyQt+Eric3+QtDesigner, but currently that only works with a
commercial
About teaching in the exact sciences: I think we need a more hands-on
applied approach, to some extent this holds for the entire school
system.
YES! As a geometry( trig) teacher, I am going to have them build a
shed, a kite, a sundial. I would love some doable ideas for hands
on which would
Harry George wrote:
Adriaan Renting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Both VB and Python are easier to learn as the more powerful
languages, the price is that they lack features that make it easier to
manage large and complex projects.
What is a large project, and what is Python missing that C++ and
phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wow! How about a sextant?
Simple device really. And a great practical demonstration of trigonometry.
Excellent idea, even found a few how to sites. We'll do it.
Any others?
Sextants are difficult to build precisely (compared with quadrants)
and they are
Adriaan Renting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I realy prefer a WYSIWYG UI design tool
to having to code BUTTON(120, 123, 123, 335, -1, NULL, doButton, Push,
push this button)
With a modern GUI library, it's more like:
buttonBox.addWidget(Button(New, my, new))
and your button is added to the
Brian schrieb:
Microsoft Visual Basic (.NET) would be your best bet for this type of
software development. It allows you to create GUI apps that can work
with a variety of database options, such as Access or MS SQL Server.
Maybe you're right with .net, but I'd go for C# when doing .net.
Hello,
If you have enough money to buy a licence, Visual Basic seem a very good option.
(But you should learn how to use design patterns.)
Without knowing this language I was able to perform a graphical user interface to
interact with an automat, a mySQL database and many analogical sensors in
Visual Basic is a good option for small programs on Windows. It does
cost a lot of money depending on your needs. It's not a good choice for
large programs (or at least used to be). The older versions of VC++ are
very hard and difficult, the newer versions seem to be o.k. I used to
prefer Borland
The problem with all posts that say Use Visual Basic, its easy for
small programs is that small programs, seemingly inevitably, become
bigger programs (unless they become dead, unmaintained programs). If
your users - you, your boss, coworkers, whoever - find your software
useful, and you start to
Theres even a version of Python for .NET, called IronPython. The major
advantage of this is that you get to program in Python, which I can
tell you from experience is a lot more enjoyable and pain-free than C,
C++, Fortran, or Java (and, I would highly suspect, VB and C#). But
apparently
phil wrote:
You would be wise, if you choose Python to choose Tkinter or WxWindows
and learn the properties of a radio button and how to trigger events.
Writing simple GUIs is not that hard. Then after you know what is
going on behind the scenes, a BOA Constructor will not be as
mysterious
phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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Theres even a version of Python for .NET, called IronPython. The major
advantage of this is that you get to program in Python, which I can
tell you from experience is a lot more enjoyable and pain-free than C,
C++, Fortran,
You are quite correct to point out how much better it is to know what is
going on behind the scenes. But heck, once you know how to extract square
roots - you need to let the computer do it!
GUI interfaces should be the same deal!
Thomas Bartkus
I think I pretty much agree. I
make something that will work for him, am I correct? The other
alternative is to install console mode linux on it and hope that the
ncurses library can be used by python. The system could be as low as a
486 dx2 66 with maybe 16 megs of ram. Well, I just thought I'd give you
people more info
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Ok, sorry to throw perhaps unrelated stuff in here, but I want everyone
to know what we have right now in the office. We started with an
electric typewriter and file cabinets. We were given an old 386 with a
20 mb hard drive about 5 years ago, and we moved everything
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I'm a manager where I work(one of the cogs in a food service company).
The boss needed one of us to become the tech guy, and part of that is
writing small windows programs for the office. He wants the development
work done in house, and he knows I am in school for a CS minor. I know
basic C++(Part
I think since speed is not such an issue (I heard that python can make
faster GUI programs) you should use Visual Basic. It is very well
suited for Windows programming. There is the good thing that you can
visually create the GUI hence it is easier to create the GUI.
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I guess you need a database plus GUI layer for your apps, you might
look in to MS Access (or Open Office 2.0 Base, but this is still beta,
so I don't think your boss will like that) for that
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Apple Grew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think since speed is not such an issue (I heard that python can make
faster GUI programs) you should use Visual Basic. It is very well
suited for Windows programming. There is the good thing that you can
visually create the GUI hence it is easier to
Hi Xeys,
Even though I absolutely love Python...
Microsoft Visual Basic (.NET) would be your best bet for this type of
software development. It allows you to create GUI apps that can work
with a variety of database options, such as Access or MS SQL Server.
My personal opinion is this:
I see several on this list have their opinion and lean toward VB.
Not me, done that and vc++. Hate'em. Been developing 30 years
and I like control over what I'm doing and Python and Tkinter are
the best tools I've ever used. And for the most part IDE's like
BOA Constructor are just confusing.
As well as wxDesigner (great!)
http://www.roebling.de/
Regards,
Philippe
Björn Lindström wrote:
Apple Grew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think since speed is not such an issue (I heard that python can make
faster GUI programs) you should use Visual Basic. It is very well
suited for
Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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Hi Xeys,
Even though I absolutely love Python...
Microsoft Visual Basic (.NET) would be your best bet for this type of
software development. It allows you to create GUI apps that can work
with a variety of database options,
Thomas Bartkus wrote:
I would modify that.
1) VB shines in the MS Windows/Office realm.
2) Python shines everywhere else.
True. However, it's also important to remember that most computer
systems (at least in the United States) come with Microsoft Windows
installed on them. You have to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm a manager where I work(one of the cogs in a food service company).
The boss needed one of us to become the tech guy, and part of that is
writing small windows programs for the office. He wants the development
work done in house, and he knows I am in school for a CS
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