Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-13 Thread Ethan Furman via Python-list
Hey, everyone! I believe the original question has been answered, and tempers seem to be flaring in sub-threads, so let's call this thread done and move on to other interesting topics. Thank you for your support! -- ~Ethan~ Moderator -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-13 Thread Chris Green via Python-list
Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 10:58, wrote: > > > > Chris, > > > > You seem to have perceived an insult that I remain unaware of. > > If you're not aware that you're saying this, then don't say it. > Er, um, that really makes no sense! :-) How can one not say something that

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 10:58, wrote: > > Chris, > > You seem to have perceived an insult that I remain unaware of. If you're not aware that you're saying this, then don't say it. > I looked up FUD and sharply disagree with suggestions I am trying to somehow > cause Fear, Uncertainty or Doubt. I

RE: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
Subject: Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7 On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 09:20, wrote: > My point was that version 4 COULD HAPPEN one day and I meant INCOMPATIBLE > version not 4. Obviously we can make a version 4 that is not incompatible > too. This is still FUD. Back your words with

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 09:20, wrote: > My point was that version 4 COULD HAPPEN one day and I meant INCOMPATIBLE > version not 4. Obviously we can make a version 4 that is not incompatible > too. This is still FUD. Back your words with something, or stop trying to imply that there's another

RE: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
interested in keeping them up to date. You as a user, take your chances. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Chris Angelico via Python-list Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 5:52 PM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7 On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 07:

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 23:52, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote: > On 13/06/24 10:09 am, Chris Angelico wrote: > > So if anyone > > actually does need to use pip with Python 2.7, they probably need to > > set up a local server > > You should also be able to download a .tar.gz from PyPI and use

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 08:46, Oscar Benjamin via Python-list wrote: > I don't know much about SSL and related networking things especially > on Windows. I would be surprised if pip on old Python can't install > from current PyPI though. I imagine that something strange has > happened like a new

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Greg Ewing via Python-list
On 13/06/24 4:31 am, avi.e.gr...@gmail.com wrote: It seems Microsoft is having a problem where something lik 2/3 of Windows users have not upgraded from Windows 10 after many years At least Python 3 is a clear improvement over Python 2 in many ways. Whereas the only thing Microsoft seems to

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 23:11, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 07:57, Oscar Benjamin via Python-list > wrote: > > They are seeing a warning that explicitly says "You can upgrade to a > > newer version of Python to solve this". I don't know whether that SSL > >

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 07:57, Oscar Benjamin via Python-list wrote: > They are seeing a warning that explicitly says "You can upgrade to a > newer version of Python to solve this". I don't know whether that SSL > warning is directly connected to pip not finding any versions of numpy > but with

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 22:38, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: > > The discussion though was about a specific OP asking if they can fix their > problem. One solution being suggested is to fix a deeper problem and simply > make their code work with a recent version of python 3. The OP has not

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 07:36, wrote: > But if the goal was to deprecate python 2 and in some sense phase it out, it > is perhaps not working well for some. Frankly, issuing so many updates like > 2.7 and including backporting of new features has helped make it possible to > delay any upgrade.

RE: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7 On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 03:41, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: > > Change is hard even when it may be necessary. > > The argument often is about whether some things are necessary or not. > > Python made a decision but clearly not a unanimous o

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 06:55, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: > The project cannot move to a Python-3 compatible version because Jython > 3.xx doesn't exist and may never exist. The saving grace is that my > project doesn't have to use packages like numpy, scipy, and so forth. Exactly. If

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 6/12/2024 1:59 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 03:41, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: Change is hard even when it may be necessary. The argument often is about whether some things are necessary or not. Python made a decision but clearly not a unanimous

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 03:41, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: > > Change is hard even when it may be necessary. > > The argument often is about whether some things are necessary or not. > > Python made a decision but clearly not a unanimous one. What decision? To not release any new versions of

RE: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
Of MRAB via Python-list Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 12:56 PM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7 On 2024-06-12 17:31, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: > I am sure there is inertia to move from an older product and some people > need a reason like this

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread MRAB via Python-list
... Indeed... -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Gordinator via Python-list Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 10:19 AM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7 On 12/06/2024 12:30, marc nicole wrote: I am trying to install numpy library

RE: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
... -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Gordinator via Python-list Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 10:19 AM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7 On 12/06/2024 12:30, marc nicole wrote: > I am trying to install numpy library on Pyt

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Gordinator via Python-list
On 12/06/2024 12:30, marc nicole wrote: I am trying to install numpy library on Python 2.7.15 in PyCharm but the error message I get is: ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement numpy (from versions: none) ERROR: No matching distribution found for numpy

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 21:32, marc nicole via Python-list wrote: > > I am trying to install numpy library on Python 2.7.15 in PyCharm but the > error message I get is: > > You can upgrade to a newer version of Python to solve this. The answer is right there in the error message. ChrisA --

Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
I am trying to install numpy library on Python 2.7.15 in PyCharm but the error message I get is: ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement numpy (from > versions: none) > ERROR: No matching distribution found for numpy >