Re: Learning Python

Xavier Morel wrote: > Where the hell did you get the idea of stacking input on a raw_input in > the first place? I'm guessing it goes something like: "input is a verb, but raw_input is a noun, so raw_input looks like a cast or conversion or stream constructor, and input looks like an action..."

Re: Learning Python

Byte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks, never knew that, but they are using raw_input as a stack, > aren't they? No. raw_input is a function object, "using it as a stack" is a rather meaningless phrase. You can use a list as a stack, but that's totally and absolutely unrelated to that spot in

Re: Learning Python

I asked to keep it simple! Anyway, ill try Dive into Python, thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning Python

Byte wrote: >> parse the expression, extract the operands and the operation, apply the > operation to the operands > > How? Give me some example code, but please keep it simple. > >> are you trying to code a calculator? > > Not intending to, just trying to learn Python. Suppose what i'm trying >

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>parse the expression, extract the operands and the operation, apply the operation to the operands How? Give me some example code, but please keep it simple. >are you trying to code a calculator? Not intending to, just trying to learn Python. Suppose what i'm trying to code is a but like a CLI c

Re: Learning Python

Yes, sorry, didnt realise diffrence between int and input. Since i'm such an idiot at this, any links to sites for people who need an unessicerily gentle learning curve? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning Python

Byte wrote: > Assumption. Im also new to programing, so could do something stupid > like think a Windows path is a command/input/etc. (really, ive done > things like that before.) > Don't assume anything when you have no reason to, and especially don't assume that a cross-platform programming lan

Re: Learning Python

Thanks, never knew that, but they are using raw_input as a stack, aren't they? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning Python

Byte wrote: > http://docs.python.org/tut/node6.html#SECTION00610 > --> >>> x = int(raw_input("Please enter an integer: ")) <-- Unless my eyes fail me, it's written "int", not "input", the goal of this line is to convert the return value of raw_input (a string) into an integer.

Re: Learning Python

Byte wrote: > p.s. Xavier Morel, you seem to be using Windows, not Linux > I don't see how this may even remotely be relevant, Python is cross platform and (mostly) works the same regardless of the OS > I got > the idea of stacking input on a raw_input from the official Python > Tutorial. >

Re: Learning Python

Byte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://docs.python.org/tut/node6.html#SECTION00610 I think you're confusing the tutorial's use of: int(raw_input(... which means "get a string from the user and turn it into an integer" (a very common idiom), with your use of: input(raw_inp

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http://docs.python.org/tut/node6.html#SECTION00610 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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>what makes you think that basic Python functions work in radically different ways on different platforms ? Assumption. Im also new to programing, so could do something stupid like think a Windows path is a command/input/etc. (really, ive done things like that before.) Now, im running this on a t

Re: Learning Python

Byte wrote: > p.s. Xavier Morel, you seem to be using Windows, not Linux what makes you think that basic Python functions work in radically different ways on different platforms ? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning Python

Use "input" to enter numbers, and "raw_input" to enter strings. For example: x = input('Enter your age: ') y = raw_input('Enter your name: ') -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning Python

Byte wrote: > p.s. Xavier Morel, you seem to be using Windows, not Linux, and I got > the idea of stacking input on a raw_input from the official Python > Tutorial. link, please. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning Python

On 2/5/06, Ivan Shevanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/5/06, Ivan Shevanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: On 2/5/06, Florian Nykrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hi Byte!Your code should look like this:x = raw_input('Please enter your name: ')if x == 'myself': print 'OK' Because myself shou

Re: Learning Python

On 2/5/06, Ivan Shevanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/5/06, Florian Nykrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hi Byte!Your code should look like this:x = raw_input('Please enter your name: ')if x == 'myself': print 'OK' Because myself should be a string and not a variable name, you have toput it

Re: Learning Python

Florian Nykrin, that works! Thanks! p.s. Xavier Morel, you seem to be using Windows, not Linux, and I got the idea of stacking input on a raw_input from the official Python Tutorial. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning Python

Hi Byte! Your code should look like this: x = raw_input('Please enter your name: ') if x == 'myself': print 'OK' Because myself should be a string and not a variable name, you have to put it in quotes. Regards, Florian. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning Python

Byte wrote: > x = input(raw_input("Please enter your name: ")) > if x==myself: print 'OK' > > It kinda works - I can get to the please enter your name bit but then > it simply reprints your input as output. Someone please HELP! > --> C:\>python Python 2.4.1 (#65, Mar 30 2005, 09:13:57) [MSC v.13

Re: Learning Python

try: x = raw_input("Please enter your name: ") -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Learning Python

I know this is probably a stupid question, but I'm learning Python, and am trying to get the if function to work with letters/words. Basicly, I'm trying to write a script that when run, says Please enter your name: Then, if the user types myself as the name , the output is OK. Thats

Re: learning python, using string help

On Fri, 2 Feb 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > silly newbie mistake > > your code runs fine on my openbsd box. ( I didnt uncomment the return > map(...) line My apologies - i should have made it clearer in the comment that it was hardwired to return example data! > thanks for the awesome exampl

Re: learning python, using string help

silly newbie mistake your code runs fine on my openbsd box. ( I didnt uncomment the return map(...) line thanks for the awesome example! --mike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: learning python, using string help

Tom, the script you referenced me errored ... But I will see if I can get it working. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: learning python, using string help

thanks tom, I am running OpenBSD, NetBSD as well as OS X (FreeBSD) My first python script #!/usr/local/bin/python print "Content-type:text/html\n\n"; import os, string getrup = os.popen('ruptime').read() show = getrup.splitlines() for line in show: if line.find("up" or "down"):

Re: learning python, using string help

On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, I did want to add some formatting for example I getcha. This is really an HTML problem rather than a python problem, isn't it? What you need to do is output a table. FWIW, here's how i'd do it (assuming you've got HP-UX ruptime, since that's

Re: learning python, using string help

Well, I did want to add some formatting for example STATUS = "up" getrup = os.popen('ruptime').read() show = getrup.splitlines() gethost = show[0] hostname = gethost.split() print hostname[0] getstatus = hostname[1] if getstatus.find("STATUS"): print STATUS else: print "HOST DOWN

Re: learning python, using string help

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > hi all, > > I have a simple snippet I am trying to keep the format the same as > plain text, though I want to embed it in html ... > > basically, > > print "Content-type:text/plain\n\n"; > getrup = os.popen('ruptime').read() > print get

learning python, using string help

hi all, I have a simple snippet I am trying to keep the format the same as plain text, though I want to embed it in html ... basically, print "Content-type:text/plain\n\n"; getrup = os.popen('ruptime').read() print getrup is the same format as if I ran 'ruptime' from the command line. If I use

Re: Learning Python...

Falc wrote: > Hi there... > > I have been looking at learning Python, so far it looks like an > absolutely grat language. I am having trouble finding some free > resources to learn Python from. I am on windows and the only experience > I have with programming is with PHP. >

Re: Learning Python...

Wow, That's one I hadn't seen before. Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning Python...

I am going to read "A Byte Of Python" and possibly a few others afterwards. I sure will read Dive into Python. Thanks a lot guys, it's beed a great help. I'll buy "Learning Python" when I can but I'm on a *very* tight budget at the moment. Thanks again. :)

Re: Learning Python...

Falc wrote: > Hi there... > > I have been looking at learning Python, so far it looks like an > absolutely grat language. I am having trouble finding some free > resources to learn Python from. I am on windows and the only experience > I have with programming is with PHP. >

Re: Learning Python...

Falc wrote: > So if you have any books you could reccomend me that would rock, I > can't really afford a book so if online that would be excellent. Have you looked into: Cheers, -- Klaus Alexander Seistrup Cop

Learning Python...

Hi there... I have been looking at learning Python, so far it looks like an absolutely grat language. I am having trouble finding some free resources to learn Python from. I am on windows and the only experience I have with programming is with PHP. I have been trying to look at the free online

Re: Learning Python

On 2005-10-10 18:50:18 +0200, Paul DiRezze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I'm spending the next two weeks off and I'm looking to take a crack at > learning how to program in Python. Here's a list of the places I've > bookmarked: > > http://www.python.org/doc/ and more specifically > http://wiki.p

Re: Learning Python

Paul DiRezze wrote: > I'm spending the next two weeks off and I'm looking to take a crack at > learning how to program in Python. Here's a list of the places I've > bookmarked: > > http://www.python.org/doc/ and more specifically > http://wiki.python.org/moin/ > http://wiki.python.org/moin/Begi

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I do highly recommend this site, too. Listen to the python411 podcast shows. It's great. Jeff Fox wrote: > Lots of links to all levels of tutorials and documentation here: > http://www.awaretek.com/plf.html > > Python Podcast too! > > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning Python

On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 18:26:58 +0900, Chris Dewin wrote: > On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:20:35 +, dannypatterso wrote: > > [snip] > >>> I'm a hobby programmer using mostly BASIC(s) and some Java. I know >>> procedural programming and I know what encapsulation, inheritance and >>> polymorphism are bu

Re: Learning Python

These are all great suggestions. Thanks to all who replied. paul -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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"Chris Dewin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There was an excellent such primer on devshed, by Icarus, but they appear > to have taken it down. > > I saved a copy of it to my HD. Would there be anything morally, or legally > wrong with me uploading it to my site? A little googling shows it's still

Re: Learning Python

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:20:35 +, dannypatterso wrote: [snip] >> I'm a hobby programmer using mostly BASIC(s) and some Java. I know >> procedural programming and I know what encapsulation, inheritance and >> polymorphism are but I have very little experience in using them as >> I've written ju

Re: Learning Python

Lots of links to all levels of tutorials and documentation here: http://www.awaretek.com/plf.html Python Podcast too! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning Python

hink may help me out. > > I'm a hobby programmer using mostly BASIC(s) and some Java. I learned from "Learning Python" from O'Reilly. There's a new edition out that covers a somewhat more recent version of Python (2.3, I think). I learned BASIC as a teen -- Fortra

Re: Learning Python

This should be good for a couple weeks http://www.awaretek.com/tutorials.html http://www.rexx.com/~dkuhlman/python_101/python_101.html http://www.rexx.com/~dkuhlman/python_201/python_201.html http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/py4fun/ http://the.taoofmac.com/space/Python/Grimoire http://mail.python.org/p

Re: Learning Python

A good introduction to Python is the recently published book "Beginning Python from Novice to Pro". It provides a quick introduction to Python, skips a lot of the details hard core programmers expect, and has very few samples of difficult to understand lines of code that can easily discourage the

Re: Learning Python

I would suggest buying Beginning Python: Novice to Professional, by Magnus hetland. It is IMO the best Python book written to date. This book this mailing-list and Python.org are all you should need. > I'm spending the next two weeks off and I'm looking to take a crack at > learning how to pr

Re: Learning Python

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 12:50:18 -0400, Paul DiRezze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'm spending the next two weeks off and I'm looking to take a crack at >learning how to program in Python. Here's a list of the places I've >bookmarked: > >http://www.python.org/doc/ and more specifically >http://wiki.

Learning Python

I'm spending the next two weeks off and I'm looking to take a crack at learning how to program in Python. Here's a list of the places I've bookmarked: http://www.python.org/doc/ and more specifically http://wiki.python.org/moin/ http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide http://www.python.org/d

tutorials / text or web processing (Re: learning python)

. need specifics on text or web processing? dozens of tutors.py sorted by subtopic    http://www.awaretek.com/tutorials.html     Table of Contents [rearranged] [ beginner`s applications ]: *Text and String Processing (3)* . *Unicode (4)* *Regular Expressions(5)* *HTML and XML (14)* *Internet: Ne

tutorials/basic (Re: learning python)

. on-line tutorials? hundreds of e-books sorted by subtopic    http://www.awaretek.com/tutorials.html --  Python Newbies should visit our Python411 Podcast Series Page   -- Python for Mobile Devices     Table of Conte

Re: learning python

If you're already fluent in other programming language(s) [sounds like you are], then this is decent and available free online: http://www.diveintopython.org/ placid wrote: > > Sometimes when you concentrate on complicated problems your thinking of > a complicated solution and not a simple one

Re: learning python

Benji York wrote: > placid wrote: > > Christopher Culver wrote: > >>"placid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>>I was just wondering about good books that teach python (either with > >>>programming or no programming experience at all) ? Or some online > >>>tutorial? > >> > >>Did you even bother doin

Re: learning python

placid wrote: > Christopher Culver wrote: >>"placid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>I was just wondering about good books that teach python (either with >>>programming or no programming experience at all) ? Or some online >>>tutorial? >> >>Did you even bother doing a web search? "Learn Python" or "

Re: learning python

Christopher Culver wrote: > "placid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I was just wondering about good books that teach python (either with > > programming or no programming experience at all) ? Or some online > > tutorial? > > Did you even bother doing a web search? "Learn Python" or "Python > tuto

Re: learning python

"placid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was just wondering about good books that teach python (either with > programming or no programming experience at all) ? Or some online > tutorial? Did you even bother doing a web search? "Learn Python" or "Python tutorial" would be enough. Christopher --

learning python

Hi all, I was just wondering about good books that teach python (either with programming or no programming experience at all) ? Or some online tutorial? Thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning Python - IM Wiki

The python tutor good for this http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor Miki Tebeka wrote: > Hello Jorge, > > >Is there some sort of a Wiki where I could post the code and have > >advice on what, how and where to improve? Or should I post the code it > >here? > You can always get

Re: Learning Python - IM Wiki

Hello Jorge, >Is there some sort of a Wiki where I could post the code and have >advice on what, how and where to improve? Or should I post the code it >here? You can always get help here, the Python community is *very* helpful. If you prefer a Wiki, try www.wikispaces.org for free Wi

Learning Python - IM Wiki

Hello,   I am a Java Developer that has been learning Python by doing simple things. I am loving this initial vibe I'm getting out of Python. However, because I feel programmers of a certain languages bring with them certain vices when moving to other languages, I'd like to hav

Re: Good starterbook for learning Python?

, but these ones are very good. The first one is best for someone who knows nothing about programing, and the second one is probably better for you, since you already have some experience. It's good for absolute beginners though. Books: - Learning Python by Mark Lutz - Core Python by Wesley

Re: Good starterbook for learning Python?

Lennart ha scritto: > Programming Python will I sell as a book that i read secondly, and use as a > reference. I'd like to suggest also "Thinking like a CS in python": a schoolbook used in real classes to teach the basis of programming. -- Renato Usi Fedora? F

Re: Good starterbook for learning Python?

Op 6 Jul 2005 06:02:15 -0700 schreef Fuzzyman: > A book that will stay useful as a referene *after* you've used it to > learn is 'Programming Python'. > > Best Regards, > > Fuzzy > http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python A thanks! I've downloaded the book "dive into python". It costs me near 23 eu

Re: Good starterbook for learning Python?

A book that will stay useful as a referene *after* you've used it to learn is 'Programming Python'. Best Regards, Fuzzy http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Good starterbook for learning Python?

hi, although Dive into Python is a *very, very* good Python book (I own the "real" book) I would not recommend it as your first book to learn Python. Take a look at Practical Python by Hetland first for instance, it will teach you all the basic stuff. Then move over to  Dive into Python and also co

Re: Good starterbook for learning Python?

Lennart enlightened us with: > Can someone advice me with the following issue: i want to learn > python in my summer vacation (i try to ...:-) So, a good start is > buying a good book. But wich? There are many ... http://www.diveintopython.org/ - I read it during the weekend, and it's a very good

Re: Good starterbook for learning Python?

ZypJb&OpenCategory=HwqR5Kpb8AUAAADqVW6ZypJb&CategoryLeftpanel=BOOK_EN%2eCATEGORY&Secondary=YES&Template=BOL_subcat_BOOK_EN_1476 > > Two excellent books match your criteria: > > Dive Into Python (review: http://www.techbookreport.com/tbr0103.html) - > also avail

Re: Good starterbook for learning Python?

5OfqfDJvrcywRiGQwhPU=?Section=BOOK_EN&Cate >goryContent=NJqR5Kpb0soAAADqmW%2eZypJb&OpenCategory=HwqR5Kpb8AUAAADqVW6ZypJb >&CategoryLeftpanel=BOOK_EN%2eCATEGORY&Secondary=YES&Template=BOL_sub >cat_BOOK_EN_1476 I've taken up learning python over the summer as well.

Re: Good starterbook for learning Python?

mp;CategoryContent=NJqR5Kpb0soAAADqmW%2eZypJb&OpenCategory=HwqR5Kpb8AUAAADqVW6ZypJb&CategoryLeftpanel=BOOK_EN%2eCATEGORY&Secondary=YES&Template=BOL_subcat_BOOK_EN_1476 Two excellent books match your criteria: Dive Into Python (review: http://www.techbookreport.com/tbr0103.

Good starterbook for learning Python?

Hi everybody, Can someone advice me with the following issue: i want to learn python in my summer vacation (i try to ...:-) So, a good start is buying a good book. But wich? There are many ... I'm living in the Netherlands and I prefer a book from bol.com (see link) because i've to order more boo

Re: Learning Python - resources and ideas

rogrammers (google this). I learned the basics with it. Then you can try any of the other resources listed in www.python.org. If you're willing to buy a book, try "Learning Python 2nd.Ed" by Mark Lutz or "Core Python" by Wesley Chun. Regards, Luis -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning Python - resources and ideas

ite some time ago). The Learning Python helped a lot <http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/lpython2/>. Best, Brian vdB -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Learning Python - resources and ideas

Hi. What is the best way to learn Python? None of the local schools near me teach any courses on the topic. Thanks. -- Cody Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Learning Python - resources and ideas

Hi. What is the best way to learn Python? None of the local schools near me teach any courses on the topic. Thanks. -- Cody Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning Python for a new beginner

Lisa Horton wrote: I hear that Python is one of the easiest languages to learn. It is easier than PHP or Pearl? Is it as useful as those two? I am attracted to Python as a first language, but I just want to be sure I will be able to use it. Opinions, thoughts, thanks! I haven't done much with Perl,

Re: Learning Python for a new beginner

h some built-in tools for writing, editing and running programs, good and user-friendly documentation (which appears to be better organized than Perl´s doc), and a lot of built-in functions to handle data structures and files in an easily tractable, easily remembered way. By learning Python, you wil

Re: Learning Python for a new beginner

Lisa Horton wrote: I hear that Python is one of the easiest languages to learn. It is easier than PHP or Pearl? Is it as useful as those two? I am attracted to Python as a first language, but I just want to be sure I will be able to use it. Opinions, thoughts, thanks! I suggest grabbing the 2.4 Pyt

Learning Python for a new beginner

I hear that Python is one of the easiest languages to learn. It is easier than PHP or Pearl? Is it as useful as those two? I am attracted to Python as a first language, but I just want to be sure I will be able to use it. Opinions, thoughts, thanks! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyt

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