Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-12-02 Thread Martin Schöön
Den 2017-11-29 skrev Martin Schöön : > Den 2017-11-28 skrev Cameron Simpson : >> On 28Nov2017 21:23, Martin Schöön wrote: >>>The reason I think all is not well is the fact that pip list no only >>>results in a list of packages but at the end of the list (which does >>>not look complete) there is a

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-29 Thread Martin Schöön
Den 2017-11-28 skrev Cameron Simpson : > On 28Nov2017 21:23, Martin Schöön wrote: >>The reason I think all is not well is the fact that pip list no only >>results in a list of packages but at the end of the list (which does >>not look complete) there is a bunch of error messages. > > Please post t

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-28 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 28Nov2017 21:23, Martin Schöön wrote: Den 2017-11-27 skrev Cameron Simpson : But if the package is mainstream you're probably ok? You could just live with it and do no more damage. Otherwise, look to see what python packages are installed which you think you may have pipped, and reinstall

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-28 Thread Martin Schöön
Den 2017-11-27 skrev Cameron Simpson : > > But if the package is mainstream you're probably ok? You could just live with > it and do no more damage. > > Otherwise, look to see what python packages are installed which you think you > may have pipped, and reinstall those. But also, pip tends not to

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-27 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 28Nov2017 08:03, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: Cameron Simpson : And this is exactly what I'm warning about. Many Linux users see some kind of failure and just stick sudo on the front of the command. It is almost always the wrong things to do, leading to effects in the OS install area instead of bei

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-27 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Cameron Simpson : > And this is exactly what I'm warning about. Many Linux users see some > kind of failure and just stick sudo on the front of the command. It is > almost always the wrong things to do, leading to effects in the OS > install area instead of being safely contained within one's home

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-27 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 27Nov2017 20:20, Martin Schöön wrote: Den 2017-11-26 skrev Cameron Simpson : On 26Nov2017 10:00, nospam.Martin Schöön wrote: Hmm, I seem to remember not being able to install packages with pip unless I did sudo pip. And this is exactly what I'm warning about. Many Linux users see some ki

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-27 Thread nospam . Cameron Simpson
On 26Nov2017 10:00, nospam.Martin SchĶĶn wrote: >Den 2017-11-26 skrev Cameron Simpson : >> On 25Nov2017 08:34, rusi wrote: >>>On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 9:45:07 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote: The problem with mixing repository-installed packages with pip-installed packages

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-27 Thread Andrew Z
Martin, Im Late to the party, but my (newbish) .02 I learned hard way not to mix rpm and pip (im on fedora). Yes, pip ...-user is what i use now exclusively. I doubt you can _easily_ clean everything up..especially considering that a few linux core utils depend on python nowadays. Maybe you ca

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-27 Thread Paul Moore
On 27 November 2017 at 20:20, Martin Schöön wrote: > Den 2017-11-26 skrev Cameron Simpson : >> On 26Nov2017 10:00, nospam.Martin Schöön wrote: >>> >>>Hmm, I seem to remember not being able to install packages with pip unless I >>>did sudo pip. >> >> And this is exactly what I'm warning about. Man

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-27 Thread Martin Schöön
Den 2017-11-26 skrev Cameron Simpson : > On 26Nov2017 10:00, nospam.Martin Schöön wrote: >> >>Hmm, I seem to remember not being able to install packages with pip unless I >>did sudo pip. > > And this is exactly what I'm warning about. Many Linux users see some kind of > failure and just stick sud

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-26 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 26Nov2017 10:00, nospam.Martin Schöön wrote: Den 2017-11-26 skrev Cameron Simpson : On 25Nov2017 08:34, rusi wrote: On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 9:45:07 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote: The problem with mixing repository-installed packages with pip-installed packages is that there'

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-26 Thread nospam . nospam . Martin Schöön
(Martin =?UTF-8?Q?Sch=C3=B6=C3=B6n?=) Den 2017-11-26 skrev Cameron Simpson : > On 25Nov2017 08:34, rusi wrote: >>On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 9:45:07 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote: >>> The problem with mixing repository-installed packages with pip-installed >>> packages is that there's a

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-26 Thread nospam . Martin Schöön
Den 2017-11-26 skrev Cameron Simpson : > On 25Nov2017 08:34, rusi wrote: >>On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 9:45:07 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote: >>> The problem with mixing repository-installed packages with pip-installed >>> packages is that there's always a chance a Debian update will ove

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-26 Thread nospam . Cameron Simpson
On 25Nov2017 08:34, rusi wrote: >On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 9:45:07 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote: >> The problem with mixing repository-installed packages with pip-installed >> packages is that there's always a chance a Debian update will overwrite >> a pip package, possibly with an ol

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-26 Thread Martin Schöön
Den 2017-11-26 skrev Cameron Simpson : > On 25Nov2017 08:34, rusi wrote: >>On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 9:45:07 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote: >>> The problem with mixing repository-installed packages with pip-installed >>> packages is that there's always a chance a Debian update will ove

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-25 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 25Nov2017 08:34, rusi wrote: On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 9:45:07 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote: The problem with mixing repository-installed packages with pip-installed packages is that there's always a chance a Debian update will overwrite a pip package, possibly with an older ver

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-25 Thread Rustom Mody
On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 9:45:07 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 11/25/2017 02:20 AM, Martin Schöön wrote: > > Some time ago I was advised that having a Python installation > > based on several sources (pip and Debian's repos in my case) > > is not a good idea. I need to tidy up my

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-25 Thread Michael Torrie
On 11/25/2017 02:20 AM, Martin Schöön wrote: > Some time ago I was advised that having a Python installation > based on several sources (pip and Debian's repos in my case) > is not a good idea. I need to tidy up my installation and I > don't know what to opt for and what to opt out. > > What are t

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-25 Thread alister via Python-list
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 09:20:44 +, Martin Schöön wrote: > Some time ago I was advised that having a Python installation based on > several sources (pip and Debian's repos in my case) is not a good idea. > I need to tidy up my installation and I don't know what to opt for and > what to opt out. >

Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-25 Thread Martin Schöön
Some time ago I was advised that having a Python installation based on several sources (pip and Debian's repos in my case) is not a good idea. I need to tidy up my installation and I don't know what to opt for and what to opt out. What are the pros and cons of the alternatives including the ones I