Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

2011-05-23 Thread JussiJ
On Apr 17, 7:13 pm, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > You can't run Python programs without a Python interpreter installed. > > Wrong. > > See e.g.http://www.portablepython.com/ In this case Python is still installed on the machine. It may not be installled on the PC's hard disk but it is certainly is

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-05-08 Thread Mali Laurent
On Apr 16, 5:20 am, Alec Taylor wrote: > Good Afternoon, > > I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, > code-completion, tabs, an embedded interpreter and which is portable > (for running from USB on Windows). > > Here's a mockup of the app I'm looking for:http://i52.tinypic.com/2u

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-05-08 Thread Matty Sarro
Pydev for eclipse/aptana On Saturday, May 7, 2011, emato wrote: > >> On Apr 16, 1:20 pm, Alec Taylor wrote: >> >>> I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, >>> code-completion, tabs, > > gedit > > http://projects.gnome.org/gedit/index.html > > > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailma

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-05-07 Thread emato
> On Apr 16, 1:20 pm, Alec Taylor wrote: > >> I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, >> code-completion, tabs, gedit http://projects.gnome.org/gedit/index.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-05-06 Thread Alec Taylor
No thanks, it's shareware, doesn't included embedded python interpreter out-of-the-box, and isn't portable. On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:39 PM, JussiJ wrote: > On Apr 16, 1:20 pm, Alec Taylor wrote: > >> I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, >> code-completion, tabs, > > The Zeus

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-05-05 Thread JussiJ
On Apr 16, 1:20 pm, Alec Taylor wrote: > I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, > code-completion, tabs, The Zeus editor does offers all these features: http://www.zeusedit.com/ Zeus is also scriptable and Zeus scripts can be written in Python. Zeus also does Python smar

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-05-01 Thread Alec Taylor
!!! =] http://code.google.com/p/fooide Contact me if you'd like to join the project :D On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Yico Gaga wrote: >   foolDE :)!!! > > 2011/4/29 Alec Taylor >> >> Your probably right. >> >> I suppose I'll just wait till I finish my fooIDE project >> >> > On Fri, Apr 29,

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-05-01 Thread Yico Gaga
foolDE :)!!! 2011/4/29 Alec Taylor > Your probably right. > > I suppose I'll just wait till I finish my fooIDE project > > > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Albert van der Horst > > wrote: > >> In article , > >> Alec Taylor wrote: > >>>Geany I've tried in the past, it's really buggy on my

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-28 Thread Alec Taylor
Your probably right. I suppose I'll just wait till I finish my fooIDE project > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Albert van der Horst > wrote: >> In article , >> Alec Taylor   wrote: >>>Geany I've tried in the past, it's really buggy on my home computer >>>and at Uni... however from my phone it

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-28 Thread Albert van der Horst
In article , Alec Taylor wrote: >Geany I've tried in the past, it's really buggy on my home computer >and at Uni... however from my phone it works wonderfully! (Use it for >C++ projects on Rhobuntu) > >Eric 4 was suggested to me on the #python channel on Freenode... >however I've never been able

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-27 Thread Stefaan Himpe
Thanks for all the suggestions, glad I found the right one! You're welcome :D -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-26 Thread Alec Taylor
Excellent news everyone! They've released an update for Editra with the bugfix for the issues I submitted. So now PyScripter and Editra do exactly what I need, but since Editra is updated it isn't buggy. =] Editra has tabs (in the right place!), syntax-highlight, shortcuts to run code, embedded

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-20 Thread Teemu Likonen
* 2011-04-18T21:17:17-07:00 * Westley Martínez wrote: > On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 06:51 +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: >> * 2011-04-19T00:40:09+10:00 * Alec Taylor wrote: >>> Please continue recommending >> >> Vim. >> >> * 2011-04-19T02:41:11+10:00 * Alec Taylor wrote: >>> Please continue suggesting Py

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-19 Thread Vlastimil Brom
2011/4/19 Alec Taylor : > SPE looks good, however I couldn't get it running (svn'd it). Do you > know if there's an installer? > > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > There are source archives http://pythonide.blogspot.com/2008/02/spe-084c-python-ide-editor-released.html dow

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-18 Thread rusi
On Apr 19, 9:44 am, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 2:37 PM, rusi wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 06:51 +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: > > emacs * 3 > > > On Apr 19, 9:17 am, Westley Martínez wrote: > > vi * 3 > > > This would be a competition except for viper: > >http://www.emacsw

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-18 Thread rusi
On Apr 19, 9:32 am, Ben Finney wrote: > Alec Taylor writes: > > Please continue with your recommendations. > > At some point you need to act on these recommendations by picking one > for the time being. > > If you're so tight for time, why are you still evaluating editors after > several days of

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 2:37 PM, rusi wrote: > On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 06:51 +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: > emacs * 3 > > On Apr 19, 9:17 am, Westley Martínez wrote: > vi * 3 > > This would be a competition except for viper: > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ViperMode > IOW emacs can be morphed into

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-18 Thread rusi
On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 06:51 +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: emacs * 3 On Apr 19, 9:17 am, Westley Martínez wrote: vi * 3 This would be a competition except for viper: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ViperMode IOW emacs can be morphed into vi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-18 Thread Ben Finney
Alec Taylor writes: > Please continue with your recommendations. At some point you need to act on these recommendations by picking one for the time being. If you're so tight for time, why are you still evaluating editors after several days of recommendations? Why have you not yet chosen an edit

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-18 Thread Westley Martínez
On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 06:51 +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: > * 2011-04-19T00:40:09+10:00 * Alec Taylor wrote: > > Please continue recommending > > Vim. > > * 2011-04-19T02:41:11+10:00 * Alec Taylor wrote: > > Please continue suggesting Python IDEs and/or fixes for the above > > Cons. > > Vim. > >

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-18 Thread Teemu Likonen
* 2011-04-19T00:40:09+10:00 * Alec Taylor wrote: > Please continue recommending Emacs. * 2011-04-19T02:41:11+10:00 * Alec Taylor wrote: > Please continue suggesting Python IDEs and/or fixes for the above > Cons. Emacs. * 2011-04-19T13:44:29+10:00 * Alec Taylor wrote: > Please continue with your

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-18 Thread Alec Taylor
SPE looks good, however I couldn't get it running (svn'd it). Do you know if there's an installer? Editra has a really active support team, and have addressed all 3 of the bugs I found. (although mostly the bugs were me not knowing how it works!) Code completion would be nice, especially for a be

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-18 Thread Alec Taylor
The current finalists: Editra with PyShell in Shelf Pros: Syntax highlighting, tabs, ¿portable? and embedded python interpreter (PyShell 0.8) Cons: No run button or keyboard shortcut for quick running of script (made issue: http://code.google.com/p/editra/issues/detail?id=641) and doesn't save se

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-18 Thread Alec Taylor
The current finalists: *Editra* with PyShell in Shelf Pros: Syntax highlighting, tabs, ¿portable? and embedded python interpreter (PyShell 0.8) Cons: No run button or keyboard shortcut for quick running of script (made issue: http://code.google.com/p/editra/issues/detail?id=641) and doesn't save

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-18 Thread Andrea Crotti
Alec Taylor writes: > > Emacs and vim still seem like good alternatives, when I get the time. > However, currently have 3 assignments to start and finish so would > like a simple Notepad2 with python interpreter attached (and keyboard > shortcut to run script) type program. > > Please continue rec

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-18 Thread Alec Taylor
Geany I've tried in the past, it's really buggy on my home computer and at Uni... however from my phone it works wonderfully! (Use it for C++ projects on Rhobuntu) Eric 4 was suggested to me on the #python channel on Freenode... however I've never been able to get it compiled/working. Too many dep

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-18 Thread Ton van Vliet
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 13:20:32 +1000, Alec Taylor wrote: >Good Afternoon, > >I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, >code-completion, tabs, an embedded interpreter and which is portable >(for running from USB on Windows). > >Here's a mockup of the app I'm looking for: http://i52.t

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-18 Thread Jean-Michel Pichavant
Alec Taylor wrote: Good Afternoon, I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, code-completion, tabs, an embedded interpreter and which is portable (for running from USB on Windows). Here's a mockup of the app I'm looking for: http://i52.tinypic.com/2uojswz.png Which would you rec

Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

2011-04-18 Thread flebber
On Apr 18, 6:33 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > Which part of the word "installed" don't you understand while actually > > using it? >;-> > > I have various programs which I distribute in zip/tgz format, and also > as a self-extracting execu

Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

2011-04-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > Which part of the word "installed" don't you understand while actually > using it? >;-> I have various programs which I distribute in zip/tgz format, and also as a self-extracting executable on Windows. Does this mean they need to be "inst

Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

2011-04-18 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> >> You can't run Python programs without a Python interpreter > >> installed. > > > > Wrong. > > > > See e.g. http://www.portablepython.com/ > > Uhm... how does that disprove? Which part of the word "installed" don't you understand while actually using it? >;-> > Whatever language you distrib

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-18 Thread harrismh777
Jorgen Grahn wrote: Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently use SciTE at work; is it reasonable to, effectively, bill my employer for the time it'll take me to learn emacs? Editor-in-chief is a bit strong... but many

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-18 Thread harrismh777
Terry Reedy wrote: IDLE loses syntax highlighting annoyingly often Could you exlain? When does it do that with a file labelled .py? ... never seen this behavior in IDLE with a .py file; not even once. I take that back... there was the time I tried to run IDLE on the mac mini with Apple bu

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-17 Thread Tim Chase
On 04/17/2011 04:19 PM, Ben Finney wrote: No, it's not. Vim is THE way. Clearly there is only one standard text editor, and that's ‘ed’ While it's funny, I'm curious how many folks on c.l.p have done any/much python coding in ed. I've had to do a bit on a router running an embedded Linux t

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-17 Thread Ben Finney
Westley Martínez writes: > On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 23:12 +, Krzysztof Bieniasz wrote: > > Remember, Emacs is THE way. It's the light in the darkness, it'll save > > your soul and bring you happiness. Isn't it worth the trouble? :) […] > > No, it's not. Vim is THE way. Clearly there is only on

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-17 Thread egbert
In http://docs.python.org/using/unix.html#editors you can read: Geany is an excellent IDE with support for a lot of languages. For more information, read: http://geany.uvena.de/ I followed that suggestion, and am very happy with Geany. But I confess that I am not a sophisticated user. Why does no

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-17 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 16Apr2011 10:59, Jorgen Grahn wrote: | On Sat, 2011-04-16, Alec Taylor wrote: | > Thanks, but non of the IDEs so far suggested have an embedded python | > interpreter AND tabs... | > emacs having the opposite problem, missing tabs (also, | > selecting text with my mouse is something I do often)

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-17 Thread Westley Martínez
On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 09:08 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Westley Martínez wrote: > > > > Either way doesn't it require python be installed on the system? > > Most Python development is going to require that... > > I'm rather puzzled by this question; I think I'

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-17 Thread Westley Martínez
On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 23:12 +, Krzysztof Bieniasz wrote: > > It takes a day or two to learn emacs. > > > > It takes forever to set it up. > > Remember, Emacs is THE way. It's the light in the darkness, it'll save > your soul and bring you happiness. Isn't it worth the trouble? :) > > Seriou

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-17 Thread John Bokma
Alec Taylor writes: > Emacs and vim are good, however I often find myself on a workstation > without direct console access. Emacs and vim can also work in a GUI enviroment. > GVim leaves a lot aesthetically desired. Ditto for Emacs. It misses the bling bling. But are you really looking at all

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-17 Thread John Bokma
Bastian Ballmann writes: > Am Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:22:19 -0500 > schrieb John Bokma : > >> Yeah, if you bring it down to open a file, save a file, and move the >> cursor around, sure you can do that in a day or two (two since you >> have to get used to the "weird" key bindings). > > Sorry but lear

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-17 Thread John Bokma
rusi writes: [ Notepad -> Emacs ] > If all one seeks is 'notepad-equivalence' why use any key-binding? > All this basic ('normal') stuff that other editors do, emacs can also > do from menus alone. OK, true. Anyway, I highly doubt anyone using Notepad as an editor is going to switch to Emacs to

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-17 Thread sal migondis
On Apr 17, 7:09 am, Ben Finney wrote: > Alec Taylor writes: [..] > > whereas nano, and all the text-editors/IDEs above are user-friendly. No they're not 'user-friendly'. They are a user's worst enemy. What's the point of a computer if all you can come up with is a typewriter in disguise? Back

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-17 Thread Andrea Crotti
Ben Finney writes: > As many others in this thread have said, the learning curve pays off in > access to a powerful general-purpose tool that you can apply to an > enormous range of programming tasks. > > A reason Vim and Emacs survive while so many thousands of other options > rise and fall and

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-17 Thread Ben Finney
Alec Taylor writes: > I've tried all the IDEs/text-editors mentioned. Great! Experimenting with them is valuable if you have the time. > Emacs and vim are good, however I often find myself on a workstation > without direct console access. I don't understand this; both of those (unlike most of

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-17 Thread Alec Taylor
Thanks for all the replies (I love the python mailing-list!) I've tried all the IDEs/text-editors mentioned. PyScripter is great, however is unmaintained thus doesn't support 64-bit :[ (and is a little buggy) Also, it requires network connectivity, which could prove troublesome on my locked-down

Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

2011-04-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: >> You can't run Python programs without a Python interpreter installed. > > Wrong. > > See e.g. http://www.portablepython.com/ Uhm... how does that disprove? Whatever language you distributed code is in, you need something on the computer t

Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

2011-04-17 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> You can't run Python programs without a Python interpreter installed. Wrong. See e.g. http://www.portablepython.com/ BTW: Imho, the Python interpreter should be made "portable" ("zero-install") _by default_. "Installing" it should be purely optional. Sincerely, Wolfgang Keller -- http://mai

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-17 Thread Bastian Ballmann
Am Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:22:19 -0500 schrieb John Bokma : > Yeah, if you bring it down to open a file, save a file, and move the > cursor around, sure you can do that in a day or two (two since you > have to get used to the "weird" key bindings). Sorry but learning the basic stuff doesnt take any l

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Jorgen Grahn wrote: > (That should really be a new job title. Just as there are aerobics > instructors or whatever at the gyms to help you use the equipment > there safely and efficiently, there should be text editor instructors!) You nearly had me crack up laughi

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-17 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Sat, 2011-04-16, Chris Angelico wrote: > Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the > editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently use SciTE at work; is it > reasonable to, effectively, bill my employer for the time it'll take > me to learn emacs? I'm using a lot of the

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread rusi
On Apr 17, 8:22 am, John Bokma wrote: > rusi writes: > > On Apr 17, 3:19 am, John Bokma wrote: > >> rusi writes: > >> > On Apr 16, 9:13 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> >> Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the > >> >> editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently us

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread John Bokma
rusi writes: > On Apr 17, 3:19 am, John Bokma wrote: >> rusi writes: >> > On Apr 16, 9:13 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the >> >> editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently use SciTE at work; is it >> >> reasonable to, effect

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread rusi
On Apr 17, 4:12 am, Krzysztof Bieniasz wrote: > > It takes a day or two to learn emacs. > > > It takes forever to set it up. > > Remember, Emacs is THE way. It's the light in the darkness, it'll save > your soul and bring you happiness. Isn't it worth the trouble? :) > > Seriously though, when I w

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread rusi
On Apr 17, 3:19 am, John Bokma wrote: > rusi writes: > > On Apr 16, 9:13 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the > >> editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently use SciTE at work; is it > >> reasonable to, effectively, bill my employe

Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Colin J. Williams
On 15-Apr-11 23:20 PM, Alec Taylor wrote: > Good Afternoon, > > I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, > code-completion, tabs, an embedded interpreter and which is portable > (for running from USB on Windows). > > Here's a mockup of the app I'm looking for: http://i52.tinypic.co

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Krzysztof Bieniasz
> It takes a day or two to learn emacs. > > It takes forever to set it up. Remember, Emacs is THE way. It's the light in the darkness, it'll save your soul and bring you happiness. Isn't it worth the trouble? :) Seriously though, when I was setting my Emacs to work with Python I stumbled upon

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Westley Martínez wrote: > > Either way doesn't it require python be installed on the system? Most Python development is going to require that... I'm rather puzzled by this question; I think I've misunderstood it. You can't run Python programs without a Python int

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Westley Martínez
On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 17:14 -0500, John Bokma wrote: > candide writes: > > > Le 16/04/2011 15:50, Adam Tauno Williams a écrit : > > > >> gedit provides a Python interpreter/console 'embedded' in the GUI > >> (provided the plugin is enabled). > >> > > > > > > I agree, cf. this screenshot : > > >

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread John Bokma
Chris Angelico writes: > On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Andrea Crotti > wrote: >> That of course is an issue, but since you code in many languages I think >> is really a pretty good investment for your future. >> >> And I don't think that you would be unproductive the first weeks with >> emacs

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread John Bokma
rusi writes: > On Apr 16, 9:13 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: >> Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the >> editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently use SciTE at work; is it >> reasonable to, effectively, bill my employer for the time it'll take >> me to learn emacs?

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread John Bokma
candide writes: > Le 16/04/2011 15:50, Adam Tauno Williams a écrit : > >> gedit provides a Python interpreter/console 'embedded' in the GUI >> (provided the plugin is enabled). >> > > > I agree, cf. this screenshot : > > http://i52.tinypic.com/snj7a0.jpg The name "Terminal" suggests something d

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread candide
Le 16/04/2011 15:50, Adam Tauno Williams a écrit : gedit provides a Python interpreter/console 'embedded' in the GUI (provided the plugin is enabled). I agree, cf. this screenshot : http://i52.tinypic.com/snj7a0.jpg but i'm not sure gedit run easily under Windows. Kate editor has the sa

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Andrea Crotti wrote: > The only language where an IDE like eclipse imho is the only way is > java, but that is because the language sucks so much that without a > massive help is impossible to write something in a human time. (Now OT) I used Eclipse once, and yes

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Stefaan Himpe
Here's a mockup of the app I'm looking for: http://i52.tinypic.com/2uojswz.png Which would you recommend? You drew editra! http://editra.org/preview -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Andrea Crotti
rusi writes: > > It takes a day or two to learn emacs. > > It takes forever to set it up. > > [How many shots of cocaine are are needed to de-addict a cocaine > addict? ] Not to set it up, but surely to master it. There are also many people that didn't really learn elisp but still use emacs taki

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Terry Reedy
On 4/16/2011 3:03 AM, Alec Taylor wrote: IDLE loses syntax highlighting annoyingly often Could you exlain? When does it do that with a file labelled .py? -- Terry Jan Reedy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Andrea Crotti
Chris Angelico writes: > Sure, that was a *slight* exaggeration :) but thanks for the advice. > I'll poke around with it some time. > > ChrisA I also suggest to take a look here, there's a quite nice environment setup for python. https://github.com/gabrielelanaro/emacs-for-python The nice thing

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread rusi
On Apr 16, 9:13 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the > editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently use SciTE at work; is it > reasonable to, effectively, bill my employer for the time it'll take > me to learn emacs? It takes a day or tw

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Andrea Crotti wrote: > That of course is an issue, but since you code in many languages I think > is really a pretty good investment for your future. > > And I don't think that you would be unproductive the first weeks with > emacs, just a bit slower maybe, and it'

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Andrea Crotti
Chris Angelico writes: > Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the > editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently use SciTE at work; is it > reasonable to, effectively, bill my employer for the time it'll take > me to learn emacs? I'm using a lot of the same features th

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Chris Angelico
Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently use SciTE at work; is it reasonable to, effectively, bill my employer for the time it'll take me to learn emacs? I'm using a lot of the same features that the OP was requesting (multipl

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Verde Denim
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 10:39 AM, craf wrote: > Look this: > > http://portableapps.com/apps/development/geany_portable > > > Regards. > > Cristian > > > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > All good suggestions. I think it may depend on the level of expertise you're at. Win

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread craf
Look this: http://portableapps.com/apps/development/geany_portable Regards. Cristian -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread TP
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 2:32 AM, jacek2v wrote: > On Apr 16, 11:18 am, Daniel Kluev wrote: >> > Please continue your recommendations. >> >> WingIDE has all that and much more, if you are willing to consider >> non-free IDE. >> Its multi-threading debugger definitely worth the cost of Pro version

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 06:40 -0700, flebber wrote: > On Apr 16, 3:43 pm, Alec Taylor wrote: > > Thanks, but non of the IDEs so far suggested have an embedded python > > interpreter AND tabs... a few of the editors (such as Editra) have > > really nice interfaces, however are missing the embedded >

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 08:04 -0500, John Bokma wrote: > Alec Taylor writes: > > Thanks, but non of the IDEs so far suggested have an embedded python > > interpreter > Emacs has. Well, it's not embedded as *in* Emacs, but I don't think > there are many editors that have that besides the ones writte

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread flebber
On Apr 16, 11:07 pm, John Bokma wrote: > Jorgen Grahn writes: > > If you cannot stand non-tabbed interfaces, you probably can't stand > > other non-Windows-like features of these two, like their menu systems. > > Emacs just has a menu system. Although I rarely use it :-). One of the > things one

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread flebber
On Apr 16, 3:43 pm, Alec Taylor wrote: > Thanks, but non of the IDEs so far suggested have an embedded python > interpreter AND tabs... a few of the editors (such as Editra) have > really nice interfaces, however are missing the embedded > interpreter... emacs having the opposite problem, missing

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread John Bokma
Jorgen Grahn writes: > If you cannot stand non-tabbed interfaces, you probably can't stand > other non-Windows-like features of these two, like their menu systems. Emacs just has a menu system. Although I rarely use it :-). One of the things one learns after some time with either vim or Emacs is

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread John Bokma
Alec Taylor writes: > Thanks, but non of the IDEs so far suggested have an embedded python > interpreter Emacs has. Well, it's not embedded as *in* Emacs, but I don't think there are many editors that have that besides the ones written in Python. > AND tabs... Emacs has no tabs per se (althou

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Colin J. Williams
On 15-Apr-11 23:20 PM, Alec Taylor wrote: Good Afternoon, I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, code-completion, tabs, an embedded interpreter and which is portable (for running from USB on Windows). Here's a mockup of the app I'm looking for: http://i52.tinypic.com/2uojswz.p

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Vlastimil Brom
2011/4/16 Alec Taylor : > Thanks, but non of the IDEs so far suggested have an embedded python > interpreter AND tabs... a few of the editors (such as Editra) have > really nice interfaces, however are missing the embedded > interpreter... emacs having the opposite problem, missing tabs (also, > se

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Tim Chase
On 04/16/2011 02:17 AM, Ben Finney wrote: Emacs can run Python in a buffer, and has “tabbar-mode” to display a row of tabs Likely the same features are available in Vim, by I've never used Vim for lots of Python coding. Vim since v7 has offered tabs, though I personally stick mostly to split-

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Sat, 2011-04-16, Alec Taylor wrote: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 3:29 PM, John Bokma wrote: >> Ben Finney writes: >> >>> Alec Taylor writes: >>> I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, code-completion, tabs, an embedded interpreter and which is portable (for runni

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Ben Finney
Daniel Kluev writes: > […] if you are willing to consider non-free IDE. I would advise against use of a non-free tool for one's programming, because the tool's fate is not in the hands of the whole community of people who use it. When the party with privileged access to alter the tool makes a c

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread jacek2v
On Apr 16, 11:18 am, Daniel Kluev wrote: > > Please continue your recommendations. > > WingIDE has all that and much more, if you are willing to consider > non-free IDE. > Its multi-threading debugger definitely worth the cost of Pro version for me. I confirm :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Daniel Kluev
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Alec Taylor wrote: > Thanks, but non of the IDEs so far suggested have an embedded python > interpreter AND tabs... a few of the editors (such as Editra) have > really nice interfaces, however are missing the embedded > interpreter... emacs having the opposite prob

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Andrea Crotti
Alec Taylor writes: > Good Afternoon, > > I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, > code-completion, tabs, an embedded interpreter and which is portable > (for running from USB on Windows). > > Here's a mockup of the app I'm looking for: http://i52.tinypic.com/2uojswz.png > > Whi

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Ben Finney
Alec Taylor writes: > Thanks (Please don't top-post. Instead, follow the normal ordering of a conversation in text: reply in-line to the parts you're responding to, and trim the parts you're not responding to.) > but non of the IDEs so far suggested have an embedded python > interpreter AND tab

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Algis Kabaila
On Saturday 16 April 2011 15:55:59 harrismh777 wrote: > Alec Taylor wrote: > > Please continue your recommendations. > > IDLE? > > (works for me) > > 3.2 is working much better for me this week... :) > > (thanks) > > kind regards, > m harris IDLE is ok and it comes by default with Python.

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread jmfauth
On 16 avr, 05:20, Alec Taylor wrote: > Good Afternoon, > ... Windows user here. I'm using SciTE, http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html . Portable (run on/from an usb key), output pane, ... If you are interested in a portable Interactive Interpreter, http://spinecho.ifrance.com/psi.html (run on/f

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-16 Thread Alec Taylor
IDLE loses syntax highlighting annoyingly often, and interpreter isn't embedded. Boa Constructor gave errors on installation (keys). Komodo might be good, however isn't free nor can't be run from USB :( On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 4:31 PM, CM wrote: > On Apr 16, 1:43 am, Alec Taylor wrote: >> Than

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Alec Taylor wrote: > Good Afternoon, > > I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, > code-completion, tabs, an embedded interpreter and which is portable > (for running from USB on Windows). > > Here's a mockup of the app I'm looking for: http://i52.

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-15 Thread CM
On Apr 16, 1:43 am, Alec Taylor wrote: > Thanks, but non of the IDEs so far suggested have an embedded python > interpreter AND tabs... a few of the editors (such as Editra) have > really nice interfaces, however are missing the embedded > interpreter... emacs having the opposite problem, missing

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-15 Thread harrismh777
Alec Taylor wrote: Please continue your recommendations. IDLE? (works for me) 3.2 is working much better for me this week... :) (thanks) kind regards, m harris -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-15 Thread Alec Taylor
Thanks, but non of the IDEs so far suggested have an embedded python interpreter AND tabs... a few of the editors (such as Editra) have really nice interfaces, however are missing the embedded interpreter... emacs having the opposite problem, missing tabs (also, selecting text with my mouse is some

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-15 Thread John Bokma
Ben Finney writes: > Alec Taylor writes: > >> I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, >> code-completion, tabs, an embedded interpreter and which is portable >> (for running from USB on Windows). > > Either of Emacs http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/> or Vim > http://www.vim.org

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-15 Thread TerrorBite Lion
On Apr 15, 11:20 pm, Alec Taylor wrote: > Good Afternoon, > > I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, > code-completion, tabs, an embedded interpreter and which is portable > (for running from USB on Windows). > > Here's a mockup of the app I'm looking for:http://i52.tinypic.com/2

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011-04-15 Thread rusi
On Apr 16, 8:20 am, Alec Taylor wrote: > Good Afternoon, > > I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, > code-completion, tabs, an embedded interpreter and which is portable > (for running from USB on Windows). > > Here's a mockup of the app I'm looking for:http://i52.tinypic.com/2u

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