Re: What's up with modern Python programmers rewriting everything in Rust?

On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 15:54:29 +0100, Paulo da Silva declaimed the following: >Às 15:07 de 19/06/22, jan Anja escreveu: >> Dude, it's called CPython for a reason. > >IMHO CPython means Core Python, not C Python. It is, as I recall, a term for the reference implementation of Python, which w

Re: What's up with modern Python programmers rewriting everything in Rust?

Às 15:07 de 19/06/22, jan Anja escreveu: Dude, it's called CPython for a reason. IMHO CPython means Core Python, not C Python. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What's up with modern Python programmers rewriting everything in Rust?

Às 16:40 de 20/06/22, Dennis Lee Bieber escreveu: On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 15:54:29 +0100, Paulo da Silva declaimed the following: Às 15:07 de 19/06/22, jan Anja escreveu: Dude, it's called CPython for a reason. IMHO CPython means Core Python, not C Python. It is, as I recall, a term f

What's up with modern Python programmers rewriting everything in Rust?

Dude, it's called CPython for a reason. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On May 8, 6:11 am, Benjamin Kaplan wrote: > On May 7, 2013 5:42 PM, "Neil Hodgson" wrote: > > jmfauth: > > >> 2) More critical, Py 3.3, just becomes non unicode compliant, > >> (eg European languages or "ascii" typographers !) > >> ... > > >    This is not demonstrating non-compliance. It is com

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On Tue, 07 May 2013 15:17:52 +0100, Steve Simmons wrote: > Good to see jmf finally comparing apples with apples :-) *groans* Truly the terrible pun that the terrible hijacking deserves. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On 08/05/2013 01:34, Neil Hodgson wrote: jmfauth: 2) More critical, Py 3.3, just becomes non unicode compliant, (eg European languages or "ascii" typographers !) ... This is not demonstrating non-compliance. It is comparing performance, not compliance. Please show an example where Py

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On 05/07/2013 09:11 PM, Benjamin Kaplan wrote: On May 7, 2013 5:42 PM, "Neil Hodgson" wrote: jmfauth: 2) More critical, Py 3.3, just becomes non unicode compliant, (eg European languages or "ascii" typographers !) ... This is not demonstrating non-compliance. It is comparing performan

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On May 7, 2013 5:42 PM, "Neil Hodgson" wrote: > > jmfauth: > >> 2) More critical, Py 3.3, just becomes non unicode compliant, >> (eg European languages or "ascii" typographers !) >> ... > > >This is not demonstrating non-compliance. It is comparing performance, not compliance. > >Please sh

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

jmfauth: 2) More critical, Py 3.3, just becomes non unicode compliant, (eg European languages or "ascii" typographers !) ... This is not demonstrating non-compliance. It is comparing performance, not compliance. Please show an example where Python 3.3 is not compliant with Unicode.

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On May 7, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Martijn Lievaart wrote: > On Sun, 05 May 2013 17:07:41 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: > >> There *are* programming languages worse than PHP. Have you ever tried >> britescript? > > Have you tried MUMPS? :-) > > M4 > Which one? The original MUMPS (Massachusetts General

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On Tue, 07 May 2013 23:32:55 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:22 PM, jmfauth wrote: >> There are plenty of good reasons to use Python. There are also plenty >> of good reasons to not use (or now to drop) Python and to realize that >> if you wish to process text seriously,

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

Chris Angelico於 2013年5月7日星期二UTC+8下午9時32分55秒寫道： > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:22 PM, jmfauth wrote: > > > There are plenty of good reasons to use Python. There are > > > also plenty of good reasons to not use (or now to drop) > > > Python and to realize that if you wish to process text > > > seri

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On Sun, 05 May 2013 17:07:41 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: > There *are* programming languages worse than PHP. Have you ever tried > britescript? Have you tried MUMPS? :-) M4 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On 5/7/2013 9:22 AM, jmfauth road forth on his dead hobbyhorse to hijack yet another thread: # Py 3.3 ascii and non ascii chars timeit.repeat("a = 'hundred'; 'x' in a") [0.11426985953005442, 0.10040049292649655, 0.09920834808588097] timeit.repeat("a = 'maçãé€ẞ'; 'é' in a") [0.23455951882567

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

"Fábio Santos" wrote: >> >> >> - >> >> >> 1) The memory gain for many of us (usually non ascii users) >> just become irrelevant. >> >> >>> sys.getsizeof('maçã') >> 41 >> >>> sys.getsizeof('abcd') >> 29 >> >> 2) More critical, Py 3.3, just becomes non unicode compliant, >> (eg European languag

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

> > > - > > > 1) The memory gain for many of us (usually non ascii users) > just become irrelevant. > > >>> sys.getsizeof('maçã') > 41 > >>> sys.getsizeof('abcd') > 29 > > 2) More critical, Py 3.3, just becomes non unicode compliant, > (eg European languages or "ascii" typographers !) > > >>> i

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:22 PM, jmfauth wrote: > There are plenty of good reasons to use Python. There are > also plenty of good reasons to not use (or now to drop) > Python and to realize that if you wish to process text > seriously, you are better served by using "corporate > products" or tools

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On 6 mai, 09:49, Fábio Santos wrote: > On 6 May 2013 08:34, "Chris Angelico" wrote: > > > Well you see, it was 70 bytes back in the Python 2 days (I'll defer to > > Steven for data points earlier than that), but with Python 3, there > > were two versions: one was 140 bytes representing 70 charact

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On 2013-05-06, Henry Law wrote: > On 05/05/13 18:11, Ignoramus16992 wrote: >> According to CIO.com > > What an amusing thread; lightened my (non-programmer) day. > I guess you are from the python newsgroup then. :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On 6 May 2013 13:03, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 06 May 2013 17:30:33 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Fábio Santos > > wrote: > >>> And of course, the Python Programmer's moral code is only 80 > >>> characters wide. > >> > >> No! Was it not seventy characte

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On Mon, 06 May 2013 17:30:33 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Fábio Santos > wrote: >>> And of course, the Python Programmer's moral code is only 80 >>> characters wide. >> >> No! Was it not seventy characters wide? Was I fooled my entire life? > > Well you see, it

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

In article , Fábio Santos wrote: > > And of course, the Python Programmer's moral code is only 80 characters > wide. > > No! Was it not seventy characters wide? Was I fooled my entire life? The entire moral code in a semi-tweet. How convenient. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyth

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

All good points. I should probably blame the smallness of my company aswell. On 6 May 2013 09:11, "Chris Angelico" wrote: > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Fábio Santos > wrote: > > I may rise the average pay of a Python programmer in Portugal. I have > asked > > for a raise back in December, an

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Fábio Santos wrote: > I may rise the average pay of a Python programmer in Portugal. I have asked > for a raise back in December, and was told that it wouldn't happen before > this year. I have done well. I think I deserve better pay than a supermarket > employee no

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

I am being sarc Austerity for python programmers in Portugal !? ;o) Karim -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On 6 May 2013 08:55, "Karim" wrote: > > Austerity for python programmers in Portugal !? Actually, lack of a market. I can't seem to find any other job programming python. It's all php, VB, c#, and I think there is some COBOL in there too. But who knows. Maybe I

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On 6 May 2013 08:34, "Chris Angelico" wrote: > Well you see, it was 70 bytes back in the Python 2 days (I'll defer to > Steven for data points earlier than that), but with Python 3, there > were two versions: one was 140 bytes representing 70 characters, the > other 280 bytes representing 70 chara

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Fábio Santos wrote: >> And of course, the Python Programmer's moral code is only 80 characters >> wide. > > No! Was it not seventy characters wide? Was I fooled my entire life? Well you see, it was 70 bytes back in the Python 2 days (I'll defer to Steven for data p

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

> And of course, the Python Programmer's moral code is only 80 characters wide. No! Was it not seventy characters wide? Was I fooled my entire life? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On Sunday, May 5, 2013 12:10:47 PM UTC-7, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > > Also, Perl programmers are an unprincipled, devious bunch, always looking > > for an opportunity to blackmail their employers into paying them extra. > > Python programmers are a decent, law-ab

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On 05/05/13 18:11, Ignoramus16992 wrote: According to CIO.com What an amusing thread; lightened my (non-programmer) day. -- Henry LawManchester, England -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On 2013-05-05, Paul Rubin wrote: > Paul Rubin writes: >> I see "New York" listed as a location for Perl but not for Python. > > Whaat? It's there for Python, though in the #3 position rather than #2. > I must have flipped through the slides too fast. My website algebra.com is written in perl, i

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > j...@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) writes: >> Now you got me badly worried, using both Perl and Python (and >> other, unspeakable languages, but not VB I promise!) Will I >> end up as a Python hacker for the mob or worse > > https://en.w

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

In article , Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Sun, 05 May 2013 17:07:41 -0400, Roy Smith declaimed > the following in gmane.comp.python.general: > > > In article <5186af75$0$29997$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>, > > Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > > > > Right now, I'd consider learning PHP fo

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

In comp.lang.python Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > j...@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) wrote: > > Well, that didn't have a happy ending:-( Should have listened to > > my parents when they told me again and again "Never use Perl, just > > say no!". Seems I'm doomed - what's the proper way t

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

In article , j...@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) wrote: > Well, that didn't have a happy ending:-( Should have listened to > my parents when they told me again and again "Never use Perl, just > say no!". Seems I'm doomed - what's the proper way to apply for a > job with the mob? I don't think

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

Steven D'Aprano於 2013年5月6日星期一UTC+8上午3時10分47秒寫道： > On Sun, 05 May 2013 12:11:11 -0500, Ignoramus16992 wrote: > > > > > According to CIO.com, Python programmers make only $83,000 per year, > > > while Perl programmers make $93,000 per year. > > > &

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

In comp.lang.python Rainer Weikusat wrote: > j...@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) writes: > > In comp.lang.python Steven D'Aprano > > wrote: > >> On Sun, 05 May 2013 12:11:11 -0500, Ignoramus16992 wrote: > > > >> > According to CIO.com

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

Paul Rubin writes: > I see "New York" listed as a location for Perl but not for Python. Whaat? It's there for Python, though in the #3 position rather than #2. I must have flipped through the slides too fast. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

Ignoramus16992 writes: > I would like to know, what explains the discrepancy. I see "New York" listed as a location for Perl but not for Python. That implies: 1) some general skew because of the very high cost of living in NY (even compared to San Francisco or Silicon Valley); 2) further skew b

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

j...@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) writes: > In comp.lang.python Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >> On Sun, 05 May 2013 12:11:11 -0500, Ignoramus16992 wrote: > >> > According to CIO.com, Python programmers make only $83,000 per year, >> > while

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

In article <5186af75$0$29997$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Right now, I'd consider learning PHP for an extra $100 a month. Or > peddling my arse down at the docks for twenty cents a time, which will be > less embarrassing and much less painful. Having spent th

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On May 5, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 05 May 2013 13:58:51 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: > >> In article , >> Ignoramus16992 wrote: >> >>> According to CIO.com, Python programmers make only $83,000 per year, >>> while Perl

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

In comp.lang.python Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 05 May 2013 12:11:11 -0500, Ignoramus16992 wrote: > > According to CIO.com, Python programmers make only $83,000 per year, > > while Perl programmers make $93,000 per year. > > > > http://www.cio.com/slidesh

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On Sun, 05 May 2013 13:58:51 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Ignoramus16992 wrote: > >> According to CIO.com, Python programmers make only $83,000 per year, >> while Perl programmers make $93,000 per year. > > It's amazing the depths to which people

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On Sun, 05 May 2013 12:11:11 -0500, Ignoramus16992 wrote: > According to CIO.com, Python programmers make only $83,000 per year, > while Perl programmers make $93,000 per year. > > http://www.cio.com/slideshow/detail/97819?source=ifwartcio#slide10 > http://www.cio.com/slidesh

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On 05/05/2013 18:35, rusi wrote: On May 5, 10:11 pm, Ignoramus16992 wrote: According to CIO.com, Python programmers make only $83,000 per year, while Perl programmers make $93,000 per year. http://www.cio.com/slideshow/detail/97819?source=ifwartcio#slide10http://www.cio.com/slideshow/detail

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

In article , Ignoramus16992 wrote: > According to CIO.com, Python programmers make only $83,000 per year, > while Perl programmers make $93,000 per year. It's amazing the depths to which people are willing to sink for an extra $10k per year. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/list

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

> Most likely more legacy Perl code in mission critical systems Which is unfair because when Python is ever surpassed by an even better language/technology then we get paid more to work Python and not move the industry forward by moving to the new technology and hacking on it. -- Fábio Santos --

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On May 5, 10:11 pm, Ignoramus16992 wrote: > According to CIO.com, Python programmers make only $83,000 per year, > while Perl programmers make $93,000 per year. > > http://www.cio.com/slideshow/detail/97819?source=ifwartcio#slide10http://www.cio.com/slideshow/detail/97819?source=ifwar

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Ignoramus16992 wrote: > According to CIO.com, Python programmers make only $83,000 per year, > while Perl programmers make $93,000 per year. > > http://www.cio.com/slideshow/detail/97819?source=ifwartcio#slide10 > http://www.cio.com/slideshow/deta

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

And seniority combined with annual cost of living raises, due to Perl being in use longer S Sent from my pocket UNIVAC. On May 5, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Ignoramus16992 wrote: > According to CIO.com, Python programmers make only $83,000 per year, > while Perl programmers make $93,000 pe

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

you there. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Ignoramus16992 wrote: > According to CIO.com, Python programmers make only $83,000 per year, > while Perl programmers make $93,000 per year. > > http://www.cio.com/slideshow/detail/97819?source=ifwartcio#slide10 > http://www.cio.com/slid

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

Most likely more legacy Perl code in mission critical systems S Sent from my pocket UNIVAC. On May 5, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Ignoramus16992 wrote: > According to CIO.com, Python programmers make only $83,000 per year, > while Perl programmers make $93,000 per year. > > http:/

Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

According to CIO.com, Python programmers make only $83,000 per year, while Perl programmers make $93,000 per year. http://www.cio.com/slideshow/detail/97819?source=ifwartcio#slide10 http://www.cio.com/slideshow/detail/97819?source=ifwartcio#slide11 I would like to know, what explains the

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Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Python's standard library should have an asynch module that uses aio > on Linux and i/o completion ports on Windows. It should work with > files and tcp sockets alike. Lately I'm hearing that Linux's aio implementation doesn't work very well yet. It is f

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

On Apr 2, 1:26 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It did *not* say that it supports every existing, more powerful and > generally better asynchronous mechanism supported by any OS out there. > Even though it would certainly be nice if it did :) Python's standard library should ha

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

> I believe you stil misunderstand. The select module doesn't provide > an inteface to aio(3). It provides an interface to select() and > poll() system calls, which don't provide asynchronous access to > regular files. I never claimed it provided access to aio. In the thread with Paul Rubin, it

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Rubin wrote: > Select blocks until the data is ready, while with AIO the i/o happens > completely in the background and your process gets an interrupt when > the i/o completes. Also, with select based i/o, usually the kernel > reads

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > Unfortunately, this is not the case for files at all, even on Unix. > (On Windows, select doesn't work on files at all, it only accepts > sockets.) "select" doesn't work on Windows pipes, either. I had to go to a multithreaded program to work around that.

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

On Mar 28, 11:52 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm having trouble explaining the benefits and tradeoffs of threads to my > coworkers and countering their misconceptions about Python's threading model > and facilities. They all come from C++ and are used to thinking of > multithreading as a way to

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

Hrvoje Niksic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I believe you stil misunderstand. The select module doesn't provide > an inteface to aio(3). It provides an interface to select() and > poll() system calls, which don't provide asynchronous access to > regular files. It occurred to me that I didn't pr

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

"Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Note that I said "*file* input/output". Twisted and asyncore are >> about asynchronous socket programming that polls over nonblocking file >> descriptors such as found in socket programming, not about wrapping >> aio(3) and the equivalent Windows

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

"Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In which sense is that different? AFAIK select lets you avoid polling > and provides notifications (possibly with timeouts) for IO-events. So > where exactly is the difference? I read TFA, and it does mention that > select/poll have potential for opt

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

"Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I appreciate the droll sense of humor, but do you mean to > > assert that asyncore.py supports asynchronous disk file I/O? > > As I said in an answer to the OP, I somewhat glossed over the "file" > and just read IO. And under Posix, python *does*

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

Paul Rubin schrieb: > Hrvoje Niksic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Note that I said "*file* input/output". Twisted and asyncore are >> about asynchronous socket programming that polls over nonblocking file >> descriptors such as found in socket programming, not about wrapping >> aio(3) and the equ

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

> I appreciate the droll sense of humor, but do you mean to > assert that asyncore.py supports asynchronous disk file I/O? As I said in an answer to the OP, I somewhat glossed over the "file" and just read IO. And under Posix, python *does* support asynchronous IO using the select-module. If you

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

Hrvoje Niksic schrieb: > "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> systems. (In theory, file input/output should also be available as >>> asynchronous code, but async IO is low-level and not available in >>> Python.) While threads shouldn't be considered a replacement for >> I suggest

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

Paul Rubin writes: > aio is also used for sockets, while twisted and asyncore use select or > something similar. That is asynchronous but in a different sense of > the word. See also: http://www.kegel.com/c10k.html Hmm that actually says that in Linux 2.6.0#-test2 sock

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

Hrvoje Niksic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Note that I said "*file* input/output". Twisted and asyncore are > about asynchronous socket programming that polls over nonblocking file > descriptors such as found in socket programming, not about wrapping > aio(3) and the equivalent Windows APIs. aio

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

"Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> systems. (In theory, file input/output should also be available as >> asynchronous code, but async IO is low-level and not available in >> Python.) While threads shouldn't be considered a replacement for > > I suggest you tell that the twisted-gu

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > systems. (In theory, file input/output should also be available as > > asynchronous code, but async IO is low-level and not available in > > Python.) While threads shouldn't be considered a replacement for > > I

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

On 28 Mar, 15:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm having trouble explaining the benefits and tradeoffs of threads to my > coworkers and countering their misconceptions about Python's threading model > and facilities.   Python's threading module is modelled on Java's thread model. There are some mi

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

> systems. (In theory, file input/output should also be available as > asynchronous code, but async IO is low-level and not available in > Python.) While threads shouldn't be considered a replacement for I suggest you tell that the twisted-guys. And the ones from the built-in asyncore-module.

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'm having trouble explaining the benefits and tradeoffs of threads > to my coworkers and countering their misconceptions about Python's > threading model and facilities. They all come from C++ and are used > to thinking of multithreading as a way to harness multiple C

Re: Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I'm having trouble explaining the benefits and tradeoffs of threads to my >coworkers and countering their misconceptions about Python's threading model >and facilities. They all come from C++ and are used to thinking of >multithreading

Summary of threading for experienced non-Python programmers?

I'm having trouble explaining the benefits and tradeoffs of threads to my coworkers and countering their misconceptions about Python's threading model and facilities. They all come from C++ and are used to thinking of multithreading as a way to harness multiple CPU cores for compute-bound processi

Re: Asking all python programmers.

On Aug 29, 11:09 am, "sjpiii" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You mean use correct spelling and grammar? But what about all the time > we've spent creating cutesy little non-words like "l8er?" > > Actually, I'm less tolerant of those than of normal spelling and grammar > errors because of the number

Re: Asking all python programmers.

On 8/28/07, Lamonte Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From a python starter, I don't like the word noob because it sounds very > unprofessional. > Touche`...haha I second the motion for "Dive Into Python." It's an excellent book, and you really can't beat the price (free online as Shawn has

Re: Asking all python programmers.

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Re: Asking all python programmers.

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Okay, I know you've guys told me millions of times to read the manual I've read a lot of it. What do you recommend studying the most? Python is my goal for the next year in the half. :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

For Python programmers in Egypt

Dear Pythonistas My company, Silverkey, is going to hold a demo day on 07/07/2007. We are going to make a comparison between static languages and dynamic languages. I'm going to represent the dynamic languages side. If you are in Egypt, we will be happy to meet you. http://www.demoday.us/ Than

A project needing Python programmers

Hello, I am writing this in the hopes of gathering as many programmers familiar with the Python programming language as possible. There is a project that exists called NVDA. NVDA is a screen reader project that is completely open source. For those of you that may not know what a screen reader

Re: Jobs: Lisp and Python programmers wanted in the LA area

> Actually, it just occurred to me that the company location was also in > the subject line of this thread ;-) D'oh! Should have looked at the verbose header before responding. I've got my newsreader set to display one title per line, and then didn't give it enough horizontal room to see your f

Re: Jobs: Lisp and Python programmers wanted in the LA area

> Who is the CTO? > > Wade Don't you people have Google in your villag^W universe? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Jobs: Lisp and Python programmers wanted in the LA area

Tech HR wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> On Feb 26, 6:32 am, Tech HR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Our >>> website is currently a LAMP appication with P=Python. We are looking for >>> bright motivated people who know or are willing to learn Python and/or >

Re: Jobs: Lisp and Python programmers wanted in the LA area

e > who's good enough. It depends on how hard the programming is. Right, so they should hire Python programmers who know Lisp too. This is not so uncommon, we have at least three people here where I work. Michele Simionato -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Jobs: Lisp and Python programmers wanted in the LA area

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tech HR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ray Dillinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Tech HR wrote: > > > > > But we're a very young company (barely six months old at this point) so > > > we're willing to listen to most anything

Re: Jobs: Lisp and Python programmers wanted in the LA area

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bruce Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tech HR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > (Actually, > > it's turning out to be hard to find Python programmers too, but it's > > easier to train a Java prog

Re: Jobs: Lisp and Python programmers wanted in the LA area

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Rubin wrote: > You know about http://lispjobs.wordpress.com I presume. I did not. Thanks for the pointer. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Jobs: Lisp and Python programmers wanted in the LA area

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan Bensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tech HR wrote: > > easier to train a Java programmer or a Perler on Python than Lisp. > > Are your technical problems simple enough to be solved by Python trainees? Some are. Some aren't. That's why we're using Lisp too

Re: Jobs: Lisp and Python programmers wanted in the LA area

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ray Dillinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tech HR wrote: > > > But we're a very young company (barely six months old at this point) so > > we're willing to listen to most anything at this point. (We're using > > Darcs for revision control. Haskell, anyone?) >

Re: Jobs: Lisp and Python programmers wanted in the LA area

> Tech HR wrote: > easier to train a Java programmer or a Perler on Python than Lisp. Dan Bensen wrote: > Are your technical problems simple enough to be solved by Python > trainees? Aahz wrote: > If they're already good programmers, yes. Sure, but who are these good programmers (coming from J

Re: Jobs: Lisp and Python programmers wanted in the LA area

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan Bensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Tech HR wrote: >> >> easier to train a Java programmer or a Perler on Python than Lisp. > >Are your technical problems simple enough to be solved by Python trainees? If they're already good programmers, yes. -- Aahz ([EMAIL

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