Someone wrote:
I'm just curious whether this
argument against dynamic typing - that you end up doing the job of a
static compiler in test code - holds in practice.
I suspect that, although some of the things caught
by the tests would be caught by static typing, the
very *same* tests are also
A rather off-topic and perhaps naive question, but isn't a 1:4
production/test ratio a bit too much ? Is there a guesstimate of what
percentage of this test code tests for things that you would get for
free in a statically typed language ? I'm just curious whether this
argument against
On Apr 30, 10:47 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A rather off-topic and perhaps naive question, but isn't a 1:4
production/test ratio a bit too much ? Is there a guesstimate of what
percentage of this test code tests for things that you would get for
free in a statically typed language ? I'm
On Apr 22, 11:25 am, azrael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hy guys,
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
On Apr 29, 2:25 pm, Fuzzyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are around 30 000 lines of Python in the production code and
about 120 000 lines of Python code in the test framework.
A rather off-topic and perhaps naive question, but isn't a 1:4
production/test ratio a bit too much ? Is there a
On 2008-04-24, AlFire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob Woodham wrote:
x = x++;
has unspecified behaviour in C.
what about C++
To the extent that (historically) C++ was a superset of C, it was true of C++
as well. However, I haven't kept pace with the C++ standardization process.
C++ now
On 2008-04-24, Istvan Albert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 23, 2:08 pm, Bob Woodham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
x = x++;
has unspecified behaviour in C. That is, it is not specified
whether the value of x after execution of the statement is the
old value of x or one plus the old value of x.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
azrael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which big aplications are written in python.
YouTube
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Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because Python doesn't follow the boxed variables model.
Be careful here. `Boxed types' or `boxed objects' is a technical term
essentially meaning `heap-allocated objects, probably with reference
semantics', which Python most definitely does use --
azrael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.
There is only one sane way to deal with this situation: You need a
common enemy. Java comes to mind ;-)
cu
Philipp
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On 23 Apr, 11:12, Mark Wooding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because Python doesn't follow the boxed variables model.
Be careful here. `Boxed types' or `boxed objects' is a technical term
essentially meaning `heap-allocated objects, probably with
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Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:26 AM
To: python-list@python.org
Subject: Python Success stories
Hy guys,
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on
2008/4/23, Reedick, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
IIRC, Python is used in games like Eve Online (SciFi MMO) and Vampire:
Bloodlines (RPG.) Years later, a dedicated fan is still fixing/updating
the Bloodlines python scripts that control the dialogue and scripted
events.
Now that you mention
Civilisation 4 uses Python everywhere and is the main tool used by
Modders of the game.
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On 2008-04-22, Paul Hankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 22, 5:50 pm, Jérémy Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure. Python is more readable than Perl, though I have found Python
to have a weird behavior regarding this little issue :
How can you explain that Python doesn't support the ++
Cristina Yenyxe González García wrote:
2008/4/23, Reedick, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
IIRC, Python is used in games like Eve Online (SciFi MMO) and Vampire:
Bloodlines (RPG.) Years later, a dedicated fan is still fixing/updating
the Bloodlines python scripts that control the dialogue and
On 2008-04-23, Mark Wooding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Python is actually one of the few to define one but not the other. (The
other one I can think of is Acorn's BBC BASIC, for whatever that's
worth; it too lacks `++'.)
You should've added it in Termite Basic then :-p
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Bob Woodham wrote:
x = x++;
has unspecified behaviour in C.
what about C++
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On Apr 23, 2:08 pm, Bob Woodham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
x = x++;
has unspecified behaviour in C. That is, it is not specified
whether the value of x after execution of the statement is the
old value of x or one plus the old value of x.
unspecified means that the result could be anything:
En Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:43:56 -0300, Paul Boddie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escribió:
On 23 Apr, 11:12, Mark Wooding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because Python doesn't follow the boxed variables model.
Be careful here. `Boxed types' or `boxed objects' is a
azrael schrieb:
Hy guys,
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
program in VisualBasic
This hurts. Please
azrael wrote:
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
program in VisualBasic
This hurts. Please give me informations about realy famous
aplications.
He's joking. Perl is a dysfunctional language and
azrael skrev:
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
program in VisualBasic
When I started writing in Python in the nineties there was a lot of
tech-media coverage of Perl. Python was always
http://panela.blog-city.com/python_at_google_greg_stein__sdforum.htm
Google big enough?
...or look at the companies on the NASA uses Python... ...so does:
box on the top (nearly top any how!) right of http://www.python.org/
On 22/04/2008, azrael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which big aplications
azrael a écrit :
Hy guys,
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.
s/proud/stupid/
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
program in VisualBasic
On Apr 22, 6:34 am, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
azrael schrieb:
Hy guys,
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :keep programing i python. maybe, one
On Apr 22, 6:25 am, azrael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hy guys,
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
azrael wrote:
Which big aplications are written in python. I see its development,
But i can't come up with a big name. I know that there are a lot of
companys using python, but is there anythong big written only in
python. I want him to fuck of with his perl once and for all time
Not really
On Apr 22, 6:25 am, azrael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.
This hurts. Please give me informations about realy famous
aplications.
you could show him what Master Yoda said when he compared Python to
Perl
Which big aplications are written in python. I see its development,
There are no big applications written in Python.
Big applications are written in JAVA or COBOL or C# or other legacy
programming systems.
If you programm in Python, your applications become quite small. Only
frameworks in
En Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:34:48 -0300, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escribió:
azrael schrieb:
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :keep programing i python.
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:35:47 -0700 (PDT)
GHUM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which big aplications are written in python. I see its development,
There are no big applications written in Python.
Big applications are written in JAVA or COBOL or C# or other legacy
programming systems.
If you
On Apr 22, 5:25 am, azrael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hy guys,
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
Sure. Python is more readable than Perl, though I have found Python
to have a weird behavior regarding this little issue :
How can you explain that Python doesn't support the ++ opeator,
whereas at the same time it does support the += operator ???
No python developer I know has been able to
On Apr 22, 5:50 pm, Jérémy Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure. Python is more readable than Perl, though I have found Python
to have a weird behavior regarding this little issue :
How can you explain that Python doesn't support the ++ opeator,
whereas at the same time it does support the +=
On Apr 22, 12:50 pm, Jérémy Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure. Python is more readable than Perl, though I have found Python
to have a weird behavior regarding this little issue :
How can you explain that Python doesn't support the ++ opeator,
whereas at the same time it does support the
En Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:50:54 -0300, Jérémy Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
Sure. Python is more readable than Perl, though I have found Python
to have a weird behavior regarding this little issue :
How can you explain that Python doesn't support the ++ opeator,
whereas at the same time it
On Apr 22, 3:25 am, azrael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hy guys,
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
On 22 апр, 14:25, azrael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[]
This hurts. Please give me informations about realy famous
aplications.
What do you mean by really famous?
Information is here:
http://www.python.org/about/quotes/
Are YouTube and Google famous enough?
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2008/4/22 Ivan Illarionov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 22 апр, 14:25, azrael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[]
This hurts. Please give me informations about realy famous
aplications.
What do you mean by really famous?
azrael wrote:
Hy guys,
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
program in VisualBasic
This hurts. Please give
Nikita the Spider wrote:
In article
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
azrael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which big aplications are written in python. I see its development,
But i can't come up with a big name. I know that there are a lot of
companys using python, but is there anythong big written only in
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Challenge him to a dual with dead kippers at twenty paces.
Please, have some dignity!
Challenge him to a duel with live kippers. Live, *rabid* kippers. With
frickin' laser beams on their heads.
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Ben Finney wrote:
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Challenge him to a dual with dead kippers at twenty paces.
Please, have some dignity!
Challenge him to a duel with live kippers. Live, *rabid* kippers. With
frickin' laser beams on their heads.
I like your style.
Though considering
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Challenge him to a dual with dead kippers at twenty paces.
You gotta be careful about stuff like this. You might slap him with a dead
kipper only to discover he's got a dead camel in his pocket.
Of course, there's always
Roy Smith wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Challenge him to a dual with dead kippers at twenty paces.
You gotta be careful about stuff like this. You might slap him with a dead
kipper only to discover he's got a dead camel in his pocket.
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