On Saturday, September 7, 2013 9:17:46 PM UTC-4, Aaron Martin wrote:
> Hi, I am thinking about getting a software but it requires python, so that
> brought up a few questions. Is it safe do download python, and does it come
> with spam or advertisements? If it doesn't then should I get the latest
> Every time you go on the Internet, you download other people's code
> and execute it. Javascript, Flash, HTML5, PDF are all either
> executable, or they include executable components.
That's why I deactivate all of these by default. And why I *hate*
so-called "web designers" who *require* activa
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 10:45:16 +0100, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
> On 10 September 2013 01:06, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
[rant about executing code over the internet]
> You could have also mentioned pip/PyPI in that. 'pip install X'
> downloads and runs arbitrary code from a largely unmonitored and
>
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Of course, Linux is a much
> harder target than the average unpatched Windows box, and there are
> probably easier ways to get access to your files if they really need to.
Plus "Linux" isn't a single target. You can search the internet fo
On 10.09.2013 11:45, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
On 10 September 2013 01:06, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 12:19:11 +, Fattburger wrote:
But really, we've learned *nothing* from the viruses of the 1990s.
Remember when we used to talk about how crazy it was to download code
from untr
On 10 September 2013 01:06, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 12:19:11 +, Fattburger wrote:
>
> But really, we've learned *nothing* from the viruses of the 1990s.
> Remember when we used to talk about how crazy it was to download code
> from untrusted sites on the Internet and execu
On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 03:37:15 +, Dave Angel wrote:
> You can run a 32bit Python on 64bit OS, but not the oter way
> around. And most people just match the bitness of Python against the
> bitness of the OS.
AFAICT, most people run 32-bit Python on any version of Windows.
[And this isn't limit
On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 12:19:11 +, Fattburger wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 03:37:15 +, Dave Angel wrote:
>
>> 1) what OS are you running? Actually, we can be pretty sure you're
>> running Windows, since any other common operating system would have
>> already included Python.
>
> Plus I don
On Sep 9, 2013, at 12:23 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 09/09/2013 05:02 AM, Anthony Papillion wrote:
>> But (and this is stepping into *really* paranoid territory here. But
>> maybe not beyond the realm of possibility) it would not be so hard to
>> compromise compilers at the chip level. If the
On 09/09/2013 10:40 AM, William Ray Wing wrote:
> I think that is pretty far fetched. It requires recognition that a
> compiler is being compiled. I'd be REALLY surprised if there were a
> unique sequence of hardware instructions that was common across every
> possible compiler (current and futur
On 09/09/2013 05:02 AM, Anthony Papillion wrote:
> But (and this is stepping into *really* paranoid territory here. But
> maybe not beyond the realm of possibility) it would not be so hard to
> compromise compilers at the chip level. If the NSA were to strike an
> agreement with, say, Intel so that
On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 03:37:15 +, Dave Angel wrote:
> 1) what OS are you running? Actually, we can be pretty sure you're
> running Windows, since any other common operating system would have
> already included Python.
Plus I don't often run into Linux users who worry about viruses, unless
the
On 09/09/2013 04:41 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 02:39:09 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Charles Hottel
>> wrote:
>>> I think this article is relevant althought the code examples are not
>>> Python but C:
>>>
>>> http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/k
On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 02:39:09 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Charles Hottel
> wrote:
>> I think this article is relevant althought the code examples are not
>> Python but C:
>>
>> http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html
>
> That is quite true, and yet not truly
I capitalize "Free" to avoid confusing it with "free as in beer".
On Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:01:58 AM UTC, Ben Finney wrote:
> Aaron Martin writes:
>
>
>
> > Hi, I am thinking about getting a software but it requires python, so
>
> > that brought up a few questions. Is it safe do download
On 9/8/2013 9:29 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
Definitely get the latest version (currently 3.3, soon 3.4). Python
keeps getting new features and improvements.
Python scripts or applications might not be compatible with Python 3.x
and require 2.x instead.
And the other way around.
--
Terry Jan
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Charles Hottel wrote:
> I think this article is relevant althought the code examples are not Python
> but C:
>
> http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html
That is quite true, and yet not truly helpful here :) It's like
pointing out that we could be being fed false
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> On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 21:04:59 -0600, Michael Torrie wrote:
>
>> As for trusting python in general, I do trust the python developers, but
>> recent NSA revelations call just about all aspects of comput
> Definitely get the latest version (currently 3.3, soon 3.4). Python
> keeps getting new features and improvements.
Python scripts or applications might not be compatible with Python 3.x
and require 2.x instead.
Sincerely,
Wolfgang
--
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 21:04:59 -0600, Michael Torrie wrote:
> As for trusting python in general, I do trust the python developers, but
> recent NSA revelations call just about all aspects of computing, trust,
> and privacy into doubt.
"Recent" revelations? Where have you been for the last, oh, 20 o
On 7/9/2013 21:17, Aaron Martin wrote:
> Hi, I am thinking about getting a software but it requires python, so that
> brought up a few questions. Is it safe do download python, and does it come
> with spam or advertisements? If it doesn't then should I get the latest
> version? I mostly want to kn
On 09/07/2013 07:17 PM, Aaron Martin wrote:
> Hi, I am thinking about getting a software but it requires python, so that
> brought up a few questions. Is it safe do download python, and does it come
> with spam or advertisements? If it doesn't then should I get the latest
> version? I mostly want t
Aaron Martin writes:
> Hi, I am thinking about getting a software but it requires python, so
> that brought up a few questions. Is it safe do download python, and
> does it come with spam or advertisements?
Python is free software, meaning that every recipient is free to improve
it and redistrib
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Aaron Martin
wrote:
> Hi, I am thinking about getting a software but it requires python, so that
> brought up a few questions. Is it safe do download python, and does it come
> with spam or advertisements? If it doesn't then should I get the latest
> version? I mos
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