Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-19 Thread Jake Angulo
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat system will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done. ... I wanted to know what will I need? 1 learn network/socket

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Jake Angulo jake.ang...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat system will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done.

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-19 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Thu, 2013-07-18, Chris Angelico wrote: ... You can certainly do your server-side programming directly in Python; in fact, I recommend it for this task. There's no reason to use HTTP, much less a web framework (which usually consists of a structured way to build HTML pages, plus a bunch of

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Jorgen Grahn grahn+n...@snipabacken.se wrote: On Thu, 2013-07-18, Chris Angelico wrote: ... You can certainly do your server-side programming directly in Python; in fact, I recommend it for this task. There's no reason to use HTTP, much less a web framework

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat system will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done. A good thing to start with. Yes, it's been done before, many times... but if you

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Aseem Bansal
@vikash agrawal About GUI I discussed it at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!starred/comp.lang.python/M-Dy2pyWRfM and I am thinking about using PySide 1.2 for clients of chat system. I think I'll need downloadable clients if I want to make something like google talk. Then I'll need to

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: @vikash agrawal About GUI I discussed it at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!starred/comp.lang.python/M-Dy2pyWRfM and I am thinking about using PySide 1.2 for clients of chat system. I think I'll need downloadable

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Aseem Bansal
@Chris Angelico Thanks. That cleared many doubts and your suggestions would definitely be useful. I am asking the next paragraph because you said about Python 3 helping with things. I am not looking for a debate or anything just a opinion. I learnt Python myself and everyone told me that

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2013.07.18 01:36, Aseem Bansal wrote: I learnt Python myself and everyone told me that Python 2 is status quo so I learned Python 2 and have been working with it. I am just 1.5 months in Python programming so should I consider switching to Python 3 if it helps with new things or should I

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: @Chris Angelico Thanks. That cleared many doubts and your suggestions would definitely be useful. I am asking the next paragraph because you said about Python 3 helping with things. I am not looking for a debate or

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Aseem Bansal
@Andrew Berg @Chris Angelico Is there a way to have both Python 2 and 3 installed on my computer till I can update the little codebase that I have built? Can I make different commands for invoking python 2 and Python 3? I am using Windows 7 and use Windows Powershell as an alternative to the

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: @Andrew Berg @Chris Angelico Is there a way to have both Python 2 and 3 installed on my computer till I can update the little codebase that I have built? Can I make different commands for invoking python 2 and Python

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Aseem Bansal
@ChrisA Thanks. That's great. That solved the whole thing easily. I'll install Python 3 and start updating today. About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? I have never read a newsgroup leave alone participated in one. I am used to forums like stackoverflow. Any

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: @ChrisA Thanks. That's great. That solved the whole thing easily. I'll install Python 3 and start updating today. About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? I have never read a

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Aseem Bansal
@ChrisA I subscribed to it. How do I reply to a message that has already been posted before my subscription? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: @ChrisA I subscribed to it. How do I reply to a message that has already been posted before my subscription? Not easily, far as I know. But you now have this reply, and you can always just post something with the right

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Aseem Bansal
I tried replying to your message by mail. I used the reply button and send it to python-list@python.org? Or do I need to use pytho...@python.org as you wrote in your post? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: I tried replying to your message by mail. I used the reply button and send it to python-list@python.org? Or do I need to use pytho...@python.org as you wrote in your post? You replied correctly. The ellipsis was

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread aseem bansal
Ok I'll mail by e-mail now. Hope that it reaches the place correctly.-- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-07-18, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: @vikash agrawal About GUI I discussed it at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!starred/comp.lang.python/M-Dy2pyWRfM and I am thinking about using PySide 1.2 for

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Terry Reedy
On 7/18/2013 3:29 AM, Aseem Bansal wrote: About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? To read this list as a newsgroup use news.gmane.org. The difference between the mailing list interface and newsgroup interface is that the latter automatically segregates

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
18.07.13 20:04, Terry Reedy написав(ла): On 7/18/2013 3:29 AM, Aseem Bansal wrote: About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? To read this list as a newsgroup use news.gmane.org. The difference between the mailing list interface and newsgroup interface is that

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-07-18, Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.com wrote: 18.07.13 20:04, Terry Reedy ??(): On 7/18/2013 3:29 AM, Aseem Bansal wrote: About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? To read this list as a newsgroup use news.gmane.org. The difference

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Owen Marshall
On 2013-07-18, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: On 2013-07-18, Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.com wrote: 18.07.13 20:04, Terry Reedy ??(): On 7/18/2013 3:29 AM, Aseem Bansal wrote: About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? To read

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Michael Torrie
On 07/17/2013 11:39 PM, Eric S. Johansson wrote: Not discourage you but this is a been there, done that kind of project. You could learn more from reading somebody else is code. What hasn't been done, and this would be very cool, is a chat program that works peer-to-peer with no central

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Michael Torrie
On 07/18/2013 12:19 PM, Owen Marshall wrote: Huh - I (foolishly) didn't realize gmane actually had NNTP, I've always used it to search mailing lists. If the list dumped to usenet (much like c.l.python) I'd post through sunsite.dk, which is a very nice usenet provider. But that still meant

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Owen Marshall
On 2013-07-18, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/18/2013 12:19 PM, Owen Marshall wrote: Huh - I (foolishly) didn't realize gmane actually had NNTP, I've always used it to search mailing lists. If the list dumped to usenet (much like c.l.python) I'd post through sunsite.dk, which is

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-17 Thread vikash agrawal
Hi Aseem, First of all great thought and all the best for the learning! On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat system will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done. I wanted

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-17 Thread Eric S. Johansson
On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 00:36:17 -0400, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat system will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done. I wanted to know what will I need? I think that would require me these 1 learn

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-17 Thread Aseem Bansal
@Eric S. Johansson I am a novice who hasn't done any big project in programming. I haven't done anything I can even call a moderate project. I haven't touched web frameworks ever. I have little or no knowledge of network/socket programming. I have never used databases before. I understand