Re: What is on-topic for the python list [was "Re: BASIC vs Python"]

2004-12-22 Thread Stephen Waterbury
Erik Max Francis wrote: Doug Holton wrote: I'm not going to dignify that or the rest of your note with a response. Please stop dignifying the whole group, then. Amen! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is on-topic for the python list [was "Re: BASIC vs Python"]

2004-12-21 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Erik Max Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Doug Holton wrote: >> >> I'm not going to dignify that or the rest of your note with a response. > >Please stop dignifying the whole group, then. Seconded. This is an extremely undignified newsgroup. -- Aahz ([EMAIL PR

Re: What is on-topic for the python list [was "Re: BASIC vs Python"]

2004-12-21 Thread Doug Holton
Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote: Non sequitur. The phrase's interpretation depends on the posting(s) it refers to. Exactly. He was saying boo (and/or I) am offensive, but logo is not. And then he apologized for misleading me to believe he was censuring me instead of flaming me. -- http://mail.python.o

Re: What is on-topic for the python list [was "Re: BASIC vs Python"]

2004-12-21 Thread Doug Holton
Hans Nowak wrote: > The discussion with Logo and other languages in it was off-topic too, > but it wasn't offensive to anyone. I'm not going to dignify that or the rest of your note with a response. No, by all means, let's ignore any pieces of a post that might lead to constructive discussion.

Re: What is on-topic for the python list [was "Re: BASIC vs Python"]

2004-12-21 Thread Hans Nowak
Doug Holton wrote: Hans Nowak wrote: Quote: "this is comp.lang.python, not comp.lang.boo." Which is obviously not the same as "Boo should not be mentioned on this newsgroup". I used the exact same phrase in another note except using the term "logo" instead of "boo", and that is the exact inter

Re: What is on-topic for the python list [was "Re: BASIC vs Python"]

2004-12-21 Thread Erik Max Francis
Doug Holton wrote: I'm not going to dignify that or the rest of your note with a response. Please stop dignifying the whole group, then. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis There was one thing I didn't

Re: What is on-topic for the python list [was "Re: BASIC vs Python"]

2004-12-21 Thread Reinhold Birkenfeld
Doug Holton wrote: > Hans Nowak wrote: >>> Quote: >>> "this is comp.lang.python, not comp.lang.boo." >> >> >> Which is obviously not the same as "Boo should not be mentioned on this >> newsgroup". > > I used the exact same phrase in another note except using the term > "logo" instead of "boo

Re: What is on-topic for the python list [was "Re: BASIC vs Python"]

2004-12-21 Thread Doug Holton
Hans Nowak wrote: Quote: "this is comp.lang.python, not comp.lang.boo." Which is obviously not the same as "Boo should not be mentioned on this newsgroup". I used the exact same phrase in another note except using the term "logo" instead of "boo", and that is the exact interpretation I immedi

Re: What is on-topic for the python list [was "Re: BASIC vs Python"]

2004-12-21 Thread Hans Nowak
Doug Holton wrote: Hans Nowak wrote: You said that boo should not be mentioned on this newsgroup. Please point me to the post where I said that. Since everything is stored in Google Groups, it should be easy for you to come up with an URL... if such a post existed. Quote: "this is comp.lang.

Re: What is on-topic for the python list [was "Re: BASIC vs Python"]

2004-12-21 Thread Doug Holton
Hans Nowak wrote: You said that boo should not be mentioned on this newsgroup. Please point me to the post where I said that. Since everything is stored in Google Groups, it should be easy for you to come up with an URL... if such a post existed. Quote: "this is comp.lang.python, not comp.lan

Re: What is on-topic for the python list [was "Re: BASIC vs Python"]

2004-12-21 Thread Hans Nowak
Doug Holton wrote: Hans Nowak wrote: Now you're trying to make it seem like I am against free speech on this list, and against people's rights to discuss whatever they want. I never said that, and I in fact enjoy the fact that c.l.py posters are an eclectic bunch who have knowledge of, and like

Re: What is on-topic for the python list [was "Re: BASIC vs Python"]

2004-12-21 Thread Doug Holton
Hans Nowak wrote: Now you're trying to make it seem like I am against free speech on this list, and against people's rights to discuss whatever they want. I never said that, and I in fact enjoy the fact that c.l.py posters are an eclectic bunch who have knowledge of, and like to talk about, a g

Re: What is on-topic for the python list [was "Re: BASIC vs Python"]

2004-12-21 Thread Hans Nowak
Doug Holton wrote: Steve Holden wrote: 'Scuse me? This group has a long history of off-topic posting, and anyway who decided that CPython should be the exclusive focus? Even on-topic we can talk about Jython and PyPy as well as CPython. I agree with your point, although Hans Nowak and others may

Re: What is on-topic for the python list [was "Re: BASIC vs Python"]

2004-12-21 Thread Nick Vargish
Doug Holton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I never did any such thing. So it wasn't you that posted the following? > This is comp.lang.python, not comp.lang.logo. Please refrain from > discussing topics not related to CPython. Someone must be spoofing you, then. Or you're working towards a care

Re: What is on-topic for the python list [was "Re: BASIC vs Python"]

2004-12-21 Thread Doug Holton
Nick Vargish wrote: Doug Holton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: If you can't accept free speech and different perspectives, you're going to be disappointed. But please do not react by trying to intimidate and troll others here. Weren't you the one telling the rest of us what's appropriate for this g

Re: What is on-topic for the python list [was "Re: BASIC vs Python"]

2004-12-21 Thread Nick Vargish
Doug Holton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you can't accept free speech and different perspectives, you're > going to be disappointed. But please do not react by trying to > intimidate and troll others here. Weren't you the one telling the rest of us what's appropriate for this group? Maybe yo