Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-08 Thread rusi
On Mar 8, 10:47 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 18:58:12 -0800, rusi wrote: > >> My questions: > >> 1.  Why is Ruby on Rails much more popular than Django? > > > "Where there is choice there is no freedom" > >http://www.jiddu-krishnamurti.net/en/1954/1954-03-03-jiddu-krishnamurti-

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 18:58:12 -0800, rusi wrote: >> My questions: >> 1.  Why is Ruby on Rails much more popular than Django? > > "Where there is choice there is no freedom" > http://www.jiddu-krishnamurti.net/en/1954/1954-03-03-jiddu- krishnamurti-8th-public-talk Surely that should be, where ther

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-08 Thread rusi
On Mar 8, 9:50 am, rh wrote: > Choices are good. > Having one choice is a mess. And look back at history and current events > if you don't see that. See http://www.perl.com/pub/1999/03/pm.html for how a real post-modern hip language gives endless choice. Also called TIMTOWTDI. Or perl -- htt

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-08 Thread Tim Johnson
* rh [130307 20:21]: > On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:55:12 -0900 > Tim Johnson wrote: > > > > > I believe that indifference on the part of Python to fastcgi is a > > self-inflicted wound. I don't believe that there is any good > > excuse for such indifference, except for a sort of bureaucratic >

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-08 Thread Rick Johnson
On Thursday, March 7, 2013 10:50:52 PM UTC-6, rh wrote: > Choices are good. [...] Having one choice is a mess. And > look back at history and current events Sometimes "choices" are forced upon you without your consent or even without regard for the end users' well-being. In this case "choices" ar

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-07 Thread rusi
On Mar 8, 2:08 am, "Russell E. Owen" wrote: > In article > <3d9fe0b2-7931-4ab6-8929-235460729...@q9g2000pbf.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > >  rusi wrote: > > On Mar 6, 11:03 pm, Jason Hsu wrote: > > > I'm currently in the process of learning Ruby on Rails.  I'm going through > > > the Rail

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-07 Thread Russell E. Owen
In article <3d9fe0b2-7931-4ab6-8929-235460729...@q9g2000pbf.googlegroups.com>, rusi wrote: > On Mar 6, 11:03 pm, Jason Hsu wrote: > > I'm currently in the process of learning Ruby on Rails.  I'm going through > > the Rails for Zombies tutorial, and I'm seeing the power of Rails. > > > > I sti

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-07 Thread rusi
On Mar 7, 2:52 pm, Sven wrote: > This thread reminds me of an article I read recently: > > http://rubiken.com/blog/2013/02/11/web-dev-a-crazy-world.html Ha Ha! Thanks for that. Of course its exaggerated. But then hyperbole can tell a story that logic cannot. -- http://mail.python.org/mailma

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-07 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:20 AM, Rick Johnson wrote: > If we are going to split into "sects", then we should at least abstract away > the parts that we agree on, and then collectively EXTEND our selfish versions > from that single abstraction. We've already done that. We've agreed that a program

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-07 Thread Rick Johnson
On Thursday, March 7, 2013 3:28:41 AM UTC-6, Rui Maciel wrote: > rusi wrote: > > > Anyone who's used emacs will know this as the bane of FLOSS software > > -- 100 ways of doing something and none perfect -- IOW too much > > spurious choice. > > This is a fallacy. Just because someone claims that

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-07 Thread Sven
On 7 March 2013 09:28, Rui Maciel wrote: > rusi wrote: > > > Anyone who's used emacs will know this as the bane of FLOSS software > > -- 100 ways of doing something and none perfect -- IOW too much > > spurious choice. > > > This is a fallacy. Just because someone claims that "there are 100 ways

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-07 Thread Rui Maciel
rusi wrote: > Anyone who's used emacs will know this as the bane of FLOSS software > -- 100 ways of doing something and none perfect -- IOW too much > spurious choice. This is a fallacy. Just because someone claims that "there are 100 ways of doing something and none perfect", it doesn't mean

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-06 Thread Rick Johnson
On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:58:12 PM UTC-6, rusi wrote: > "Where there is choice there is no freedom" > [snip link] > > Python-for-web offered so much choice -- zope, django, turbogears, > cherrypy, web.py etc etc -- that the newbie was completely drowned. > With Ruby there is only one choice to

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-06 Thread rusi
On Mar 6, 11:03 pm, Jason Hsu wrote: > I'm currently in the process of learning Ruby on Rails.  I'm going through > the Rails for Zombies tutorial, and I'm seeing the power of Rails. > > I still need to get a Ruby on Rails site up and running for the world to see. >  (My first serious RoR site w

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-06 Thread rusi
On Mar 6, 11:03 pm, Jason Hsu wrote: > I'm currently in the process of learning Ruby on Rails.  I'm going through > the Rails for Zombies tutorial, and I'm seeing the power of Rails. > > I still need to get a Ruby on Rails site up and running for the world to see. >  (My first serious RoR site w

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-06 Thread Tim Johnson
* Albert Hopkins [130306 17:14]: > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013, at 02:16 PM, Tim Johnson wrote: > > > I had problems getting django to work on my hostmonster account > > which is shared hosting and supports fast_cgi but not wsgi. I put > > that effort on hold for now, as it was just R&D for m

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-06 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013, at 02:16 PM, Tim Johnson wrote: > I had problems getting django to work on my hostmonster account > which is shared hosting and supports fast_cgi but not wsgi. I put > that effort on hold for now, as it was just R&D for me, but > I would welcome you to take a look at

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-06 Thread alex23
On Mar 7, 9:58 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Neither. I'd be rather tempted to try doing it in CherryPy. But then, > what do I know, I'm just as much a follow of fashion as the next guy. All of the cool kids are using Pyramid these days. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-06 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 10:03:14 -0800, Jason Hsu wrote: > My questions: > 1. Why is Ruby on Rails much more popular than Django? 2. Why is there > a much stronger demand for Ruby on Rails developers than Django/Python > developers? Fashion. Demand for technology is usually driven more by copying

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-06 Thread Tim Johnson
* mar...@python.net [130306 09:31]: > > > > > My questions: > > 1. Why is Ruby on Rails much more popular than Django? > If you already know/work with Python than I would go the Django route. > RoR and Django are not that much different nowadays as far as > methodologies. The main difference

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-06 Thread mar...@python.net
> My questions: > 1. Why is Ruby on Rails much more popular than Django? AFAIK Rails got a slightly longer head start than Django. And it has been said that RoR's first killer app was a screencast. A little marketing can go a long way. Since then Django has caught up a bit with RoR in terms

Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-06 Thread Jason Hsu
I'm currently in the process of learning Ruby on Rails. I'm going through the Rails for Zombies tutorial, and I'm seeing the power of Rails. I still need to get a Ruby on Rails site up and running for the world to see. (My first serious RoR site will profile mutual funds from a value investor'