Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
>
>> Amanda wrote:
>> (snip)
>>> I am always amazed when I meet fanatics!!
>> I'm always amazed when I meet PC-Soft's salespersons...
>
> isn't there some non-python forum where you can sort this one out ?
Why is it up to Bruno to sort this out?
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
>
>> Amanda wrote:
>> (snip)
>>> I am always amazed when I meet fanatics!!
>> I'm always amazed when I meet PC-Soft's salespersons...
>
> isn't there some non-python forum where you can sort this one out ?
Yes, you're right, sorry...
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Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> Amanda wrote:
> (snip)
>> I am always amazed when I meet fanatics!!
>
> I'm always amazed when I meet PC-Soft's salespersons...
isn't there some non-python forum where you can sort this one out ?
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Amanda wrote:
(snip)
> I am always amazed when I meet fanatics!!
I'm always amazed when I meet PC-Soft's salespersons...
> Links abour Windev for those who like facts :
>
> http://www.windev.com/pcsoft/testimonials/index.html
> http://www.pcsoft.fr/annonce10/photos.html
> http://www.pcsoft.fr/pc
stéphane bard wrote:
> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
> I have to argue
>
> any idea for a strong argument ?
* WinDev is a virtual unknown outside France. I tried asking a bunch of
colleagues about WinDev just now. Nobody has even heard about it. Prior
to doing Java I was doing
Scott David Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> While these statements do mean something to experienced programmers,
> they seem to contradict everything a power-point wielding IT executive
> who understands everything "from a 5000 foot point of view" knows to
> be true. I really wish I knew ho
stéphane bard wrote:
> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
> I have to argue
>
> - python work on multiple platform (linux, mac, windows)
> A good point but it didn't interest him. Because
> we want to choose a language for prototyping.
> So multi platform is not enough.
Wolfgang Keller wrote:
>>Links abour Windev for those who like facts :
>>
>>http://www.windev.com/pcsoft/testimonials/index.html
>>http://www.pcsoft.fr/annonce10/photos.html
>>http://www.pcsoft.fr/pcsoft/120pages/index.html
>
>
> Well, it _could_ be that all the readers in comp.lang.python are ut
> Links abour Windev for those who like facts :
>
> http://www.windev.com/pcsoft/testimonials/index.html
> http://www.pcsoft.fr/annonce10/photos.html
> http://www.pcsoft.fr/pcsoft/120pages/index.html
Well, it _could_ be that all the readers in comp.lang.python are utterly
braindead morons with e
> Can Windev interface with .net? YES
> Can Windev interface with Java? YES
> Can Windev interface natively with nearly every relational database on the
> planet? YES
> Does Windev interface with JMS, Java RMI, SAP RFC, mqseries and other
> middleware?>> YES
> Can you easily
> - python work on multiple platform (linux, mac, windows)
> A good point but it didn't interest him. Because
> we want to choose a language for prototyping.
> So multi platform is not enough.
With Python the prototype _is_ the application. You just need to add a little
bit of
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Bruno Desthuilliers a écrit :
> >> I've never met a programmer that "loved" Windev.
> >
> > I have met some here (I'm the guy with a mustache-just kidding but
> > actually I was there).
> >
> > http://www.pcsoft.fr/pcsoft/tdftec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Bruno Desthuilliers a écrit :
>> I've never met a programmer that "loved" Windev.
>
> I have met some here (I'm the guy with a mustache-just kidding but
> actually I was there).
>
> http://www.pcsoft.fr/pcsoft/tdftech/2006/images/Paris/07-IMG_5853.jpg
>
> WinD
Why are they all look so gloomy? I don't see a single smile on their
faces.
:=)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Bruno Desthuilliers a écrit :
> > I've never met a programmer that "loved" Windev.
>
> I have met some here (I'm the guy with a mustache-just kidding but
> actually I was there).
>
Hi,
Bruno Desthuilliers a écrit :
> I've never met a programmer that "loved" Windev.
I have met some here (I'm the guy with a mustache-just kidding but
actually I was there).
http://www.pcsoft.fr/pcsoft/tdftech/2006/images/Paris/07-IMG_5853.jpg
WinDev is widely used in France and that's a thing
[Méta-MCI - translated for non-Francophones]
| Re-Bonjour !
Hello again!
| J'avais écrit, dans le message précédent, que la société
| PC-Soft avait eu des difficultés financières,
| il y a plusieurs années.
I wrote in the last message that PC-Soft had had financial
difficulties a few years ag
Re-Bonjour !
J'avais écrit, dans le message précédent, que la société PC-Soft avait eu
des difficultés financières, il y a plusieurs années.
Comme je n'ai pas eu l'occasion de vérifier cette information, (et à la
demande de la société PC-Soft), je demande donc aux lecteurs de consid
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Stéphane,
>
> stéphane bard wrote:
>> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
>> I have to argue
You don't. You're one of the marketing droids from PC-Soft
To everyone here : such interventions are a well-known part of PC-Soft
(the company that sells the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Stéphane,
>
> stéphane bard wrote:
>> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
>> I have to argue
>
> First, no matter how good is Python, you should not desagree with your
> boss.
> Second, Windew is quite good and fun, you will love it.
Yes, the boss is a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Bruno,
Heck. PC-Soft marketing droids are pursuing us even here now.
> Let me guess, your favorite book is the "I HATE THE FRENCH OFFICIAL
> HANDBOOK".
je suis français, pauvre semoule.
> People here deserve a more objective opinion.
"objective" ? Lol.
> Here yo
Hi Stéphane,
stéphane bard wrote:
> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
> I have to argue
First, no matter how good is Python, you should not desagree with your
boss.
Second, Windew is quite good and fun, you will love it.
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Thanks.
The essential, is that peoples (& you) can understand. Bbut, perso, I
don't understand the message translated (much unknowed words...)
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Thank you, Jean-Marc, for translation. I am not capable of this work.
:-)
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Hi Bruno,
Let me guess, your favorite book is the "I HATE THE FRENCH OFFICIAL
HANDBOOK". People here deserve a more objective opinion.
Here you can find what WinDev users have to say about WinDev
http://www.windev.com/pcsoft/testimonials/
There are more testimonials here (in french).
http://ww
MC wrote:
> Bonjour !
>
> Comme tu es français, tu me coprendras.
>
> Alors :
> - windev est fermé, et protégé par des dongles. Résultat : dongle
> perdu, en panne, ou volé, il faut racheter une licence (c'est arrivé à
> un ami)
> - le langage de windev est beaucoup moins évolué que Python. Et
My french is attrocious so I got Michels original post machine
transated.
I liked what Michel was saying, maybe others would like to share:
Hello! As you are French, you will coprendras me. Then: - windev is
closed, and protected by dongles. Result: dongle lost, broken down, or
flown, a licence s
Bonjour !
Comme tu es français, tu me coprendras.
Alors :
- windev est fermé, et protégé par des dongles. Résultat : dongle
perdu, en panne, ou volé, il faut racheter une licence (c'est arrivé à
un ami)
- le langage de windev est beaucoup moins évolué que Python. Et,
quand je dis beaucoup,
stéphane bard wrote:
> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
> I have to argue
>
> - python work on multiple platform (linux, mac, windows)
> A good point but it didn't interest him. Because
> we want to choose a language for prototyping.
> So multi platform is not enough.
stéphane bard wrote:
> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
> I have to argue
>
> - python work on multiple platform (linux, mac, windows)
> A good point but it didn't interest him. Because
> we want to choose a language for prototyping.
> So multi platform is not
John Henry wrote:
> I don't know what windev is
A french (highly proprietary) so-called "CASE-Tool" with a so-called
"5th generation language" (lol) that is mostly a dumbed-down mix of
basic and pascal. It's so bad that it makes you regret VB6.
--
bruno desthuilliers
python -c "print '@'.join(
stéphane bard wrote:
> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
Find another job.
(I'm serious. I've 2+ years of pain with Windev, and if your boss is
clueless enough to believe all the marketing crap from PCSoft's droids,
you really don't want to work for him).
> I have to argue
>
>
I don't know what windev is but presonally, I found Python to be
incredibly productive.
BTW: I recommend that you look into PythonCard. It sits on top of
wxpython and I found it to be a very productive GUI tool.
stéphane bard wrote:
> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
> I have to
hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
I have to argue
- python work on multiple platform (linux, mac, windows)
A good point but it didn't interest him. Because
we want to choose a language for prototyping.
So multi platform is not enough.
- python and winde
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