Re: How do you guys print out a binary tree?

2006-04-18 Thread bayerj
Hi, > 1 2 3 4 5 > 0 7 8 9 10 > 0 0 13 14 15 > 0 0 0 19 20 > 0 0 0 0 25 > Look at the triangle represented by the non-zero > integers. This triangle is a binary tree if we take 5 > as the root and walk down on both sides. Are you sure? Is 9 a child of 4 or 10

Re: How do you guys print out a binary tree?

2006-04-18 Thread bayerj
A half-empty matrix will of course have (n+1)* n * 1/2 elements. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Upgrading and modules

2006-04-18 Thread Brian Elmegaard
Lawrence Oluyede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (despite the ongoing Pypi project and Eby's efforts in setuptools) > you have to do it manually :) Great, there is progress in this. > How many modules do you really use? It's a matter of minutes. Yes, but 60 minutes make an hour. I installed 2.4

how to use socks5 proxy in pycurl?

2006-04-18 Thread Ju Hui
import pycurl c = pycurl.Curl() c.setopt( pycurl.URL, 'http://www.test.com/test.html' ) import StringIO b = StringIO.StringIO() c.setopt( c.WRITEFUNCTION, b.write ) c.setopt( c.FOLLOWLOCATION, 1 ) c.setopt( c.MAXREDIRS, 5 ) c.setopt(c.PROXY,'www.test.com:1080') #c.setopt(c.PROXYTYPE,'SOCKS5') c.set

Re: Java Developer Exploring Python

2006-04-18 Thread Renato
You don't actually *need* a libglade/pyGtk IDE: glade will be more than enough :-) By its very nature glade will enable you to design the GUI and define the signals. Then you'll load the glade file in python, and use whatever editor you feel comfortable with. -- Have fun, Renato Ramonda -- ht

Re: scanning through page and replacing all instances of 00:00:00.00

2006-04-18 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Kun> assuming that my date column is 2, how would i parse out the date? > > No parsing required. Just get its date: > >d = record[2].date() > > The str() of a datetime.date object is a string in -MM-DD form. or, in other words, change: for col in range

Re: freakin out over C++ module in python

2006-04-18 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
> and so, i guess the main question i have is is there a module or > program that will parse these classes and duplicate them for a python > module ? Some kind of code translator ? Or is that just way out there? No, there isn't. > i would go thru it line by line, but i just dont know enough a

Re: Ironpython book?

2006-04-18 Thread Fredrik Lundh
BartlebyScrivener wrote: > I'll let somebody jump in and say, "You're crazy!" But it seems to me > the interest in IronPython on this list is pretty subdued. Maybe > because most people are running on Linux or Macs? umm. CPython runs just fine on Windows, and can talk to most Windows- specific

Error using tkinter

2006-04-18 Thread JyotiC
Hi, I am making a gui, in which specifiction are taken from user, which are wriiten to a file. and that file will bw executed. finalstr is a string f = open('crossManual.sh','w') f.write(finalstr) f.close() I am getting the error Exception in Tkinter callback Traceback (most r

Shell like syntax for subprocess.Popen # overloading >, <, |

2006-04-18 Thread jelle
Hi, I use python quite a bit to couple different programs together. Doing so has been a _lot_ easier since subprocess came around, but would really like to be able to use the succinct shell syntax; >, <, | That really shouldn't be too hard to wrap in a class, but so far I didn't succeed to do so

Re: How protect proprietary Python code? (bytecode obfuscation?, what better?)

2006-04-18 Thread Daniel Nogradi
> #include > > char code[] = "print 'hello moshe'"; > > void main(...) > { > Py_ExecString(code); > } I don't get this, with python 2.4 there is no function called Py_ExecString in any of the header files. I found something that might do the job PyRun_SimpleString( ) in pythonrun.h, but could

Another SimpleXMLRPCServer question.

2006-04-18 Thread Jose Carlos Balderas Alberico
Let's hope this is my last question on the matter. I'm implementing a SimpleXMLRPCServer, and last week I had a problem John helped me solve. The thing is that my server is to be called from a remote machine, so when declaring the instance, the line ("localhost", 8000) wouldn't work because it woul

Re: Missing interfaces in Python...

2006-04-18 Thread Pablo Orduña
This article in Guido van Rossum's blog might be interesting for this thread http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=92662 -- Pablo -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: piping question

2006-04-18 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Biggmatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The problem is that i want it to >get the stdout as the program runs, not hold it all till it's >finished. This has been discussed before. If the program you're trying to control buffers its output and gives no option to disab

Re: Java Developer Exploring Python

2006-04-18 Thread bruno at modulix
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've traditionally been a Java developer, although I play around with > LISP. I recently migrated to Linux and I was exploring Mono as an > option for development on Linux. However, I've had some problems with > the maturity and support when working with Mono. So I was co

Re: Error using tkinter

2006-04-18 Thread Fredrik Lundh
"JyotiC" wrote: > I am getting the error > >Exception in Tkinter callback > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in __call__ >return self.func(*args) > File "gui.py", line 248, in writescript >f = open('crossManual.sh','w')

Re: How protect proprietary Python code? (bytecode obfuscation?, what better?)

2006-04-18 Thread gangesmaster
okay, i got the name wrong. i wasn't trying to provide production-level code, just a snippet. the function you want is PyRun_SimpleString( const char *command) #include char secret_code[] = "print 'moshe'"; int main() { return PyRun_SimpleString(secret_code); } and you need to link with py

Re: Error using tkinter

2006-04-18 Thread JyotiC
Thanx a lot, that was the problem -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How protect proprietary Python code? (bytecode obfuscation?, what better?)

2006-04-18 Thread Daniel Nogradi
> #include > > char secret_code[] = "print 'moshe'"; > > int main() > { > return PyRun_SimpleString(secret_code); > } > > and you need to link with python24.lib or whatever the object file is > for your platform. Are you sure? On a linux platform I tried linking with libpython2.4.so (I assume

Re: scanning through page and replacing all instances of 00:00:00.00

2006-04-18 Thread Kent Johnson
Kun wrote: > Fredrik Lundh wrote: >> "Kun" wrote: >> >>> I have a python-cgi file that pulls data from an sql database, i am >>> wondering what is the easiest way to remove all instances of >>> '00:00:00.00' in my date column. >>> >>> how would i write a python script to scan the entire page and de

Re: How protect proprietary Python code? (bytecode obfuscation?, what better?)

2006-04-18 Thread Fredrik Lundh
"Daniel Nogradi" wrote: >> char secret_code[] = "print 'moshe'"; >> >> int main() >> { >> return PyRun_SimpleString(secret_code); >> } >> >> and you need to link with python24.lib or whatever the object file is >> for your platform. > > Are you sure? On a linux platform I tried linking with li

Re: Why new Python 2.5 feature "class C()" return old-style class ?

2006-04-18 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Fredrik Lundh wrote: > why are you using an IDE that doesn't understand Python syntax ? > > > Because I don't like using a whole new editor for every new language I'm using (as you would not use a new hammer for each nail) and jedit just plain rocks. I guess it could be made to recognize cla

Re: Queue can result in nested monitor deadlock

2006-04-18 Thread Piet van Oostrum
> "Paul McGuire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (PM) wrote: >PM> "Jonathan Amsterdam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >PM> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> If you don't want to call it deadlock, fine, but the program execution >>> I describe will make no progress to the end of time. Thread 2 can never >>>

Re: How protect proprietary Python code? (bytecode obfuscation?, what better?)

2006-04-18 Thread Daniel Nogradi
> >> char secret_code[] = "print 'moshe'"; > >> > >> int main() > >> { > >> return PyRun_SimpleString(secret_code); > >> } > >> > >> and you need to link with python24.lib or whatever the object file is > >> for your platform. > > > > Are you sure? On a linux platform I tried linking with libpy

Re: Translate Cpp into python code

2006-04-18 Thread Fulvio
Alle 21:36, lunedì 17 aprile 2006, Ravi Teja ha scritto: > If you are looking for ways to access C++ code in Python, there are > several (Boost, SIP, CXX, SWIG, Weave etc). This way I knew about it. > People usually convert higher level languages to lower level > languages for performance

Re: How protect proprietary Python code? (bytecode obfuscation?, what better?)

2006-04-18 Thread bruno at modulix
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How can a proprietary software developer protect their Python code? > People often ask me about obfuscating Python bytecode. They don't want > people to easily decompile their proprietary Python app. Do they ask the same thing for Java or .NET apps ?-) > I suppose anot

Re: How protect proprietary Python code? (bytecode obfuscation?, what better?)

2006-04-18 Thread Richard Brodie
"bruno at modulix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Do they ask the same thing for Java or .NET apps ?-) If you Google for "bytecode obfuscation", you'll find a large number of products already exist for Java and .Net -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/p

[OT] Any Python lullabies?

2006-04-18 Thread Christos Georgiou
Since there have been python limmericks, are there any Python lullabies that I can sing to my newborn son (actually, born yesterday)? I tried to murmur some select parts from the tutorial, but he somehow wasn't very interested :) -- TZOTZIOY, I speak England very best. "Dear Paul, please stop spa

Tokens?

2006-04-18 Thread BBands
In the invaluable 'Dr. Dobb's Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links' of April 17 Peter Otten writes: "Michele Simionato's little script lets you search for a name in Python scripts, avoiding false positives that a standard tool like grep would yield." Can someone explain why this is so? I have

Re: How protect proprietary Python code? (bytecode obfuscation?, what better?)

2006-04-18 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Richard Brodie wrote: >> Do they ask the same thing for Java or .NET apps ?-) > > If you Google for "bytecode obfuscation", you'll find a large number > of products already exist for Java and .Net and if you google for "python obfuscator", you'll find tools for python. including tools that use

semi-[OT]: adding a reply-to line to these mails?

2006-04-18 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
I've noticed that I replied to individual posters' private addresses several times now ... So a quick note to the admin(s): see topic ;) Hey, maybe I'm just too dumb to use Thunderbird; I haven't figured out a way to reply comfortably to list posts (take this as a half asses excuse to why some

Re: [OT] Any Python lullabies?

2006-04-18 Thread Dan Sommers
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:12:14 +0300, Christos Georgiou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since there have been python limmericks, are there any Python > lullabies that I can sing to my newborn son (actually, born > yesterday)? I tried to murmur some select parts from the tutorial, > but he somehow wasn

Re: Shell like syntax for subprocess.Popen # overloading >, <, |

2006-04-18 Thread Christos Georgiou
On 18 Apr 2006 01:37:03 -0700, rumours say that "jelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> might have written: >Hi, > >I use python quite a bit to couple different programs together. >Doing so has been a _lot_ easier since subprocess came around, but >would really like to be able to use the succinct shell syntax

Re: Missing interfaces in Python...

2006-04-18 Thread Kent Johnson
I V wrote: > To use interfaces in python, just what you would do in Java, except > don't use interfaces. +1 QOTW -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: freakin out over C++ module in python

2006-04-18 Thread nephish
ok, well enough, looked at struct and it does seem to be what i am after. for that anyway. thanks, guess i will just have to take the time and pull it apart. cheers sk -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Tokens?

2006-04-18 Thread Fredrik Lundh
"BBands" wrote: > In the invaluable 'Dr. Dobb's Python-URL! - weekly Python news and > links' of April 17 Peter Otten writes: "Michele Simionato's little > script lets you search for a name in Python scripts, avoiding false > positives that a standard tool like grep would yield." Can someone > exp

genexp reduce syntax in 2.5a1

2006-04-18 Thread Boris Borcic
On the python3000 mailing list there was some discussion of a "comprehension syntax" for reduce. This inspired me the following proof-of-concept in pure python 2.5a1, although I don't know if it relies on an intended feature or a(n unintended) bug. Cheers, BB -- def ireduce(gen) : """

Re: freakin out over C++ module in python

2006-04-18 Thread Jay Parlar
On Apr 18, 2006, at 4:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ok, well enough, looked at struct and it does seem to be what i am > after. for that anyway. > thanks, guess i will just have to take the time and pull it apart. > I recommend you also take a look at http://pyconstruct.sourceforge.net/ I

Re: Ironpython book?

2006-04-18 Thread BartlebyScrivener
>> If you are interested in a pure managed-code >> implementation of the Python language, >> you should check out the IronPython project There's the rub. I don't know what "pure managed-code" means. But I'll definitely look into CPython. Thanks rd -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/py

Re: Shell like syntax for subprocess.Popen # overloading >, <, |

2006-04-18 Thread jelle
Hi Christos, Thanks for your pointers there, impressive to see -that a 12 year old thread still can make an interesting read -you being able to remember & trace it... impressive... Thanks for your pointers. I think the input > process > output Syntax is more powerful , since it would let you buil

Re: [OT] Any Python lullabies?

2006-04-18 Thread Tim Chase
> Since there have been python limmericks, are there any > Python lullabies that I can sing to my newborn son > (actually, born yesterday)? I tried to murmur some > select parts from the tutorial, but he somehow wasn't > very interested :) Well, you might start with "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Ast

Re: semi-[OT]: adding a reply-to line to these mails?

2006-04-18 Thread Robert Kern
Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: > I've noticed that I replied to individual posters' private addresses > several times now ... > So a quick note to the admin(s): see topic ;) (Ab)using Reply-To like that is undeservedly controversial. See the section "The Great Reply-To Debate" in Karl Fogel's book

Re: freakin out over C++ module in python

2006-04-18 Thread Michael Ekstrand
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i would go thru it line by line, but i just dont know enough about C++, > how it pulls off a socket connection, etc.. and some of the things i > dont know how to do in python. like how to make an unsigned long init. The networking code in C++ should be at least vaguely s

Re: Any Python lullabies?

2006-04-18 Thread Dustan
Tim Chase wrote: > > Since there have been python limmericks, are there any > > Python lullabies that I can sing to my newborn son > > (actually, born yesterday)? I tried to murmur some > > select parts from the tutorial, but he somehow wasn't > > very interested :) > > Well, you might start with

Simple DAV server?

2006-04-18 Thread robert
For testing purposes I'm looking for a simple DAV server - best a python thing serving a folder tree. Don't want to install/change/setup the complex apache dav .. Found PyDav http://www.econetwork.net/~jdavis/Software/PyDAV/readme.html, but the package is old and (crucial) webdav.ini.template i

Re: Ironpython book?

2006-04-18 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
> I suspected. I've played with Linux distros, but never a Mac. That > takes more $$ than M$, and Apple is even more proprietary than MS, if > you ask me. Depends. Sure, if you dive into Cocoa programming and stuff. But you have to keep in mind that under the hood it's BSD - and even runs a X-Ser

Re: Ironpython book?

2006-04-18 Thread BartlebyScrivener
>> I can't comment on this in general, but on the CCC (Chaos Communication >> Congress, a Hacker-con) last year the notebook-distribution was like this: Now THAT sounds like a fun event for a journalist to cover! I'll have to look into that one. Thanks rick -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/li

Re: [OT] Any Python lullabies?

2006-04-18 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 07:07:27 -0500, Tim Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> [horse for horse in horses if horse.pretty] I'm familiar with this one as: all(pony for pony in ponies if pony.pretty). Never knew there was a version with "horse", not "pony". Jane Siberry does a nice rendit

Re: [OT] Any Python lullabies?

2006-04-18 Thread Robin Becker
Not a lullaby, but appropriate near easter(s) while 1: life.side.bright.look() -- Robin Becker -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Simple DAV server?

2006-04-18 Thread Larry Bates
Zope presents objects/folders via WebDAV. It isn't "simple", but it works and is a Python "thing". On Windows you can get a demo of GroupDrive here: http://www.webdrive.com/products/groupdrive/index.html -Larry Bates robert wrote: > For testing purposes I'm looking for a simple DAV server - b

Re: Any Python lullabies?

2006-04-18 Thread Fredrik Lundh
"Dustan" wrote: > Howsabout this? > > >>> import this > The Zen of Python, by Tim Peters > > Beautiful is better than ugly. > Explicit is better than implicit. > Simple is better than complex. > Complex is better than complicated. > Flat is better than nested. > Sparse is better than dense. > Read

Re: Ironpython book?

2006-04-18 Thread Alex Martelli
Diez B. Roggisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I suspected. I've played with Linux distros, but never a Mac. That > > takes more $$ than M$, Find me a 2-kg, 5+ battery hours, well-heeled laptop (with wifi, 801b, etc etc) below the $999 of the iBook G4... it's hard today, it was just imposible b

Re: Ironpython book?

2006-04-18 Thread Alex Martelli
BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> If you are interested in a pure managed-code > >> implementation of the Python language, > >> you should check out the IronPython project > > There's the rub. I don't know what "pure managed-code" means. But I'll You can find much material about

Re: Any Python lullabies?

2006-04-18 Thread Alex Martelli
Dustan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Howsabout this? > > > >>> import this > The Zen of Python, by Tim Peters > > Beautiful is better than ugly. ... Anna and I used it as one of our wedding's readings back in 2004 (together with other texts from Dickinson, Petrarca, Lucretius...) and I

Re: How do you guys print out a binary tree?

2006-04-18 Thread Anthony Liu
--- bayerj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > 1 2 3 4 5 > > 0 7 8 9 10 > > 0 0 13 14 15 > > 0 0 0 19 20 > > 0 0 0 0 25 > > Look at the triangle represented by the non-zero > > integers. This triangle is a binary tree if we > take 5 > > as the root and w

pywin32 : scheduled weakup from standby/hiberate ?

2006-04-18 Thread robert
On Windows the task scheduler tool can program (the BIOS?) to weak up the machine from standby/hibernate at certain pre-configured times. Can this be done directly through the (py)win32 API? robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Ironpython book?

2006-04-18 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
> ...which is hardly "more proprietary than MS", anyway, since OpenStep > does live, btw;-). But certainly not PyObjc bindings for that :) > For me, just like for most people I've discussed it with, the reasoning > is similar. For example, Chip Turner (once of RedHat, and a major > contributor

Re: Missing interfaces in Python...

2006-04-18 Thread gmilas
I am currently working in C# after I spent about 3 years almost only in python, The way I see thinks is that for me we need interfaces in C# to allow for flexibility in using OOP because we must only pass defined and known types at all times so for us to have the flexibility of passing either a Car

Re: Why new Python 2.5 feature "class C()" return old-style class ?

2006-04-18 Thread Ant
(OT) I don't have the same issue with Syntax highlighting, and I use jEdit as my main Python editor (Though some of the dedicated Python IDE's have some nice refactoring/code completion stuff, none has the raw editing power of jEdit). I'm using jEdit 4.3 pre3 - though I don't recall any problems w

Speed abilities

2006-04-18 Thread Coyoteboy
Ive read a few comments, the usual about it being slower,sometimes vastly slower than a C++ written item but I was wondering if its 'slow' incomparison with what I need. I'm looking at taking two arrays of 12 bytes over an ethernet connection, comparing them, recieving correction data (single b

Re: A 'Box' Function

2006-04-18 Thread Kent Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey guys. > > I should warn you, first off, that I'm relatively new to Python. > Basically, what I'm trying to do is create a word-wrapping function > with the added complication that it add a character at the beginning > and end of each line, so that it encloses the tex

Re: Threading problem

2006-04-18 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
> Here the error message: Exception in thread Thread-1: > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "C:\Program Files\Python\lib\threading.py", line 442, in > __bootstrap > self.run() > File "G:\Robot teleskop\VRT\test\test2.py", line 25, in run > Document.OpenFile('F:/Images/VRT

How to stop winpdb programatically

2006-04-18 Thread Uwe Grauer
How can i stop winpdb at a special point in a file? I know that there is set_trace() in pdb which stops execution in the debugger, but how to do this in winpdb? Thanks for hints, Uwe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Plug-Ins In A Python Application

2006-04-18 Thread redefined . horizons
Its the Java developer again... I'm working on an application framework that I would like to implement in Python. Part of the application framework is a plug-in model that is similar to the one used in Eclipse. Is it possible to load and use "modules" containing plug-in code written by third part

2.5 excitement (was Re: Java Developer Exploring Python)

2006-04-18 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: >> >> Consider for example that one of the additions to Python 2.5 (currently >> in alpha stage) is the inclusion in the Python standard library of >>

Re: Plug-Ins In A Python Application

2006-04-18 Thread Gary Herron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Its the Java developer again... > >I'm working on an application framework that I would like to implement >in Python. Part of the application framework is a plug-in model that is >similar to the one used in Eclipse. > >Is it possible to load and use "modules" containing p

Updated PEP 359: The make statement

2006-04-18 Thread Steven Bethard
I've updated PEP 359 with a bunch of the recent suggestions. The patch is available at: http://bugs.python.org/1472459 and I've pasted the full text below. I've tried to be more explicit about the goals -- the make statement is mostly syntactic sugar for:: class : __metaclass__

Re: 2.5 excitement (was Re: Java Developer Exploring Python)

2006-04-18 Thread Jorge Godoy
Aahz wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Roy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Indeed, I think the inclusion of ctypes is far and away the most exciting >>thing in 2.5. > > Really? More than pysqlite? To me much more. After all, why would I need pysqlite if I use PostgreSQL? ;-) /me

Re: Missing interfaces in Python...

2006-04-18 Thread olsongt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm coming from a Java background, so please don't stone me... > > I see that Python is missing "interfaces". The concept of an interface > is a key to good programming design in Java, but I've read that they > aren't really necessary in Python. I am wondering what techni

Re: 2.5 excitement (was Re: Java Developer Exploring Python)

2006-04-18 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jorge Godoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Aahz wrote: >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> Roy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>Indeed, I think the inclusion of ctypes is far and away the most exciting >>>thing in 2.5. >> >> Really? More than pysqlite? > >T

Re: 2.5 excitement (was Re: Java Developer Exploring Python)

2006-04-18 Thread Jorge Godoy
Aahz wrote: > Heh. Since we're just finally turning in our 100% first draft of Python > for Dummies, I tend to think more in terms of what a Python newbie will > find useful. On that front, I think that pysqlite is much more > important because it finally gets rid of the excuse for using Berkele

Re: Plug-Ins In A Python Application

2006-04-18 Thread Jay Parlar
On Apr 18, 2006, at 9:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Its the Java developer again... > > I'm working on an application framework that I would like to implement > in Python. Part of the application framework is a plug-in model that is > similar to the one used in Eclipse. > > Is it possible to

Re: [OT] Any Python lullabies?

2006-04-18 Thread Ralf Muschall
Christos Georgiou wrote: > Since there have been python limmericks, are there any Python lullabies that > I can sing to my newborn son (actually, born yesterday)? I tried to murmur > some select parts from the tutorial, but he somehow wasn't very interested > :) There is something near the end of

RE: Slicing matrix

2006-04-18 Thread Shi, Jue
In Chinese, we say "cutting Tofu". Cheese is really much harder to cut than Tofu. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony Liu Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 8:44 PM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Slicing matrix Hi, James, I just

Re: Plug-Ins In A Python Application

2006-04-18 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is it possible to load and use "modules" containing plug-in code > written by third party developers into a running instance of the > framework? How would I do this? Do I need to "dynamically load" the > module at runtime? (I will scan a folder in the application direcot

Re: Missing interfaces in Python...

2006-04-18 Thread Rene Pijlman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: >If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then for all practical >purposes it supports the 'duck' interface. The problem with that of course, is that there's much more to being a duck than being called 'duck'. public interface JarFile { void explode(); } public inte

Re: PEP 359: The "make" Statement

2006-04-18 Thread skip
Carl> class some_attribute: Carl> __metaclass__ = PropertyMaker Carl> def get(self): Carl> whatever Carl> def set(self,value): Carl> whatever Carl> But the thing is, if I did that, I'd be lying bastard With Carl> the make statement,

indirect import of standard module

2006-04-18 Thread BartlebyScrivener
I know this must have been answered a hundred times, but I must be searching on the wrong terminology. Let's say I have a module foo.py that imports os. I make another script called bar.py that imports foo.py and now I want to use, say, os.walk in bar.py. Which is faster or more correct or whate

Re: 2.5 excitement (was Re: Java Developer Exploring Python)

2006-04-18 Thread Jon Ribbens
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aahz wrote: > On that front, I think that pysqlite is much more important because > it finally gets rid of the excuse for using Berkeley for simple > database purposes. Apologies if I'm being obtuse, but how does including the pysqlite wrapper module change anything

Re: 2.5 excitement (was Re: Java Developer Exploring Python)

2006-04-18 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Jon Ribbens wrote: > Apologies if I'm being obtuse, but how does including the pysqlite > wrapper module change anything? You still need to download and install > SQLite I'm pretty sure the distributors will do this for you, just as they've included zlib, dbm, tcl/tk, openssl, and many other stan

Re: Missing interfaces in Python...

2006-04-18 Thread Mark True
This is quite possibly one of the funniest examples of how Duck Typing can break down that I have ever seen!On 4/18/06, Rene Pijlman < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:>If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then for all practical>purposes it supports the 'duck' interface.The p

datetime question

2006-04-18 Thread Philippe Martin
Hi, I need to get the date and time under Windows and Linux but need the information visible to the user (cannot find my words) not the sytem information (ex: a PC setup on greenwich but the date/time displayed are relative to some other place. Regards, Philippe -- http://mail.python.org/mailm

difference between class and static methods?

2006-04-18 Thread John Salerno
I've been reading up on them, but I don't quite understand how they differ in practice. I know how each is implemented, and from C# I already know what a static method is. But I won't assume that it's the same in Python. And on top of that, both the class and static methods of Python seem to do

Re: Missing interfaces in Python...

2006-04-18 Thread Peter Maas
Fredrik Lundh schrieb: > Jonathan Daugherty wrote_ > >> # In Python, you would simply call the functions you need. No need to >> # make things that rigidly defined. >> >> Except when you need to handle exceptions when those methods don't >> exist. I think interfaces can definitely be useful. > >

2.5a1 import of .dlls

2006-04-18 Thread sven . nystrom
I've re-built an extension module (as a .dll) using the 2.5a1 release. Unexpectedly, I'm not able to simply import it (not the way I can when building it for 2.3). Using imp.load_dynamic() the import succeeds. >>> import minx # Implemented in a .dll - fails Traceback (most recent call last):

Re: Missing interfaces in Python...

2006-04-18 Thread Peter Maas
Roy Smith schrieb: > Python is a very dynamic language. Java is a very static language. What is the difference between "static" and "very static"? Is Java more static than Fortran I? ;) Peter Maas, Aachen -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: datetime question

2006-04-18 Thread Jorge Godoy
Philippe Martin wrote: > Hi, > > I need to get the date and time under Windows and Linux but need the > information visible to the user (cannot find my words) not the sytem > information (ex: a PC setup on greenwich but the date/time displayed are > relative to some other place. Something like t

Re: Missing interfaces in Python...

2006-04-18 Thread olsongt
Rene Pijlman wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then for all practical > >purposes it supports the 'duck' interface. > > The problem with that of course, is that there's much more to being a duck > than being called 'duck'. > > public interface JarFile

Re: 2.5a1 import of .dlls

2006-04-18 Thread Thomas Heller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've re-built an extension module (as a .dll) using the 2.5a1 release. > Unexpectedly, I'm not able to simply import it (not the way I can when > building it for 2.3). Using imp.load_dynamic() the import succeeds. > import minx # Implemented in a .dll - fails >

Re: [OT] Any Python lullabies?

2006-04-18 Thread Jarek Zgoda
Christos Georgiou napisał(a): > Since there have been python limmericks, are there any Python lullabies that > I can sing to my newborn son (actually, born yesterday)? I tried to murmur > some select parts from the tutorial, but he somehow wasn't very interested > :) Your son is too small to und

Re: Queue can result in nested monitor deadlock

2006-04-18 Thread Jonathan Amsterdam
No redesign necessary. I simply make M be the Queue's mutex, via the LQueue class I posted. I am making the modest suggestion that this feature be documented and exposed in the Queue class. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Writing backwards compatible code - when?

2006-04-18 Thread Bob Greschke
Is there a list of all of the Python commands and modules that tell when (what version) they were added to Python? I was hoping the new Essential Reference would have it, but it doesn't. Thanks! Bob -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Missing interfaces in Python...

2006-04-18 Thread Roy Smith
Peter Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He probably means that with interfaces one could test compliance > with the interface as a whole instead of testing each member and > each signature as a single piece. All interfaces (as implemented by Java) prove is that your class has a bunch of methods w

Re: Java Developer Exploring Python

2006-04-18 Thread Jarek Zgoda
[EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a): > Is Python actively developed and supported on Linux? Would it be a > viable option for cross-platform application development? Yeas and yeas. Yeas. (That's how we pronounce "yes" here, in Poland, East Europe). > Can anyone recommend an open source IDE for Python t

Mouse control in OS X

2006-04-18 Thread Mateo
Hi, I'd like to be able to use python to control the mouse cursor in OS X. ( i.e. programmatically move it around, click things, etc...) Anyone know the best way to do it on a Mac? Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Java Developer Exploring Python

2006-04-18 Thread Carl J. Van Arsdall
Jarek Zgoda wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a): > > >> Is Python actively developed and supported on Linux? Would it be a >> viable option for cross-platform application development? >> > > Yeas and yeas. Yeas. (That's how we pronounce "yes" here, in Poland, > East Europe). > > >> Can

Re: 2.5 excitement (was Re: Java Developer Exploring Python)

2006-04-18 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jon Ribbens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aahz wrote: >> >> On that front, I think that pysqlite is much more important because >> it finally gets rid of the excuse for using Berkeley for simple >> database purposes. > >Apologies if I'm

Re: Speed abilities

2006-04-18 Thread Harry George
"Coyoteboy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ive read a few comments, the usual about it being slower,sometimes vastly > slower than a C++ written item but I was wondering if its 'slow' > incomparison with what I need. I'm looking at taking two arrays of 12 bytes > over an ethernet connection, com

urllib2.ProxyHandler

2006-04-18 Thread rx
I'm trying to hide my IP with the following code: import urllib2 proxy=[urllib2.ProxyHandler({'http':'24.232.167.22:80'})] opener=urllib2.build_opener(proxy) f=opener.open('http://www.whatismyipaddress.com') print f.read() But that didn't work - my real IP showed up. Then I made the following re

Better way to sift parts of URL . . .

2006-04-18 Thread Ben Wilson
I am working on a script that splits a URL into a page and a url. The examples below are the conditions I expect a user to pass to the script. In all cases, "http://www.example.org/test/"; is the URL, and the page comprises parts that have upper case letters (note, 5 & 6 are the same as earlier exa

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