Re: elementtree

Hi, elsa wrote: > I know how to turn HTML into an ElementTree object I don't. ;) ElementTree doesn't have an HTML parser, so what do you use for parsing? > but I don't know > how to then view the structure of this object. Is there a method or > module that you can give an ElementTree object to

Re: [ANN] pyxser-1.2r --- Python-Object to XML serialization module

Daniel Molina Wegener wrote: > * Added encoded serialization of Unicode strings by using > the user defined encoding as is passed to the serialization > functions as enc parameter > > As you see, now Unicode strings are serialized as encoded byte string > by using the encod

Python and JMS

Hi all, I would like to make a JMS client connection from Python to Progress Sonic ESB (JMS message provider similar to WebSphere MQ or Active MQ). What would be the best way to implement that within Python 2.6 ? Any ideas ? Thanks Oscar -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: sgmllib.py

elsa wrote: > I'm new to both this forum and Python, and I've got a bit stuck trying > to learn how to parse HTML... If what you want to do is *parse* the HTML instead of trying to *learn* how to parse it, you might want to give the existing (external) HTML parser libraries a try. There's lxml.htm

elementtree

I have a question about elementtree: I know how to turn HTML into an ElementTree object, but I don't know how to then view the structure of this object. Is there a method or module that you can give an ElementTree object to, and it returns some kind of graphical or printed representation of the tr

Simple IRC library

Hi all, I am new to Python language. I want to capture(either in database or a file) the conversation in IRC. Please suggest me some simple IRC library or code snippet for this. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Need cleanup advice for multiline string

Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I'm amused and somewhat perplexed that somebody with the non-English > name of Stefan, writing from a .de email address, seems to be assuming > that (1) everybody is on the Internet, and (2) everybody on the Internet > speaks English. Oh, I totally don't. But most peopl

Re: Need cleanup advice for multiline string

Mensanator wrote: > On Aug 23, 2:25�pm, Stefan Behnel wrote: >> Mensanator wrote: >>> asking how many Jews you can fit into a Volswagen. >> None, because it's already full. > > A spelling error does not make it any less offensive. As it stands, I find the joke above perfectly acceptable. Using th

Re: Numeric literals in other than base 10 - was Annoying octal notation

> Scott David Daniels (SDD) wrote: >SDD> James Harris wrote:... >>> Another option: >>> >>> 0.(2:1011), 0.(8:7621), 0.(16:c26b) >>> >>> where the three characters "0.(" begin the sequence. >>> >>> Comments? Improvements? >SDD> I did a little interpreter where non-base 10 numbers >SDD> (up

Re: Numeric literals in other than base 10 - was Annoying octal notation

MRAB wrote: James Harris wrote: On 23 Aug, 00:16, Mel wrote: James Harris wrote: I have no idea why Ada which uses the # also apparently uses it to end a number 2#1011#, 8#7621#, 16#c26b# Interesting. They do it because of this example from

Re: Numeric literals in other than base 10 - was Annoying octal notation

J. Cliff Dyer wrote: I had an objection to using spaces in numeric literals last time around and it still stands, and it still stands in the new one. What happens if you use a literal like 0x10f 304? Is 304 treated as decimal or hexadecimal? It's not clear how you would begin to combine it.

Re: Numeric literals in other than base 10 - was Annoying octal notation

On 24 Aug, 02:19, Max Erickson wrote: ... > > It can be assumed however that .9. isn't in binary? > > > That's a neat idea. But an even simpler scheme might be: > > > .octal.100 > > .decimal.100 > > .hex.100 > > .binary.100 > > .trinary.100 > > > until it gets to this anyway: > > > .thiryseximal

Re: Literal concatenation, strings vs. numbers

Ben Finney wrote: Yet, as was pointed out, that behaviour would be inconsistent with the concatenation of string literals:: >>> "abc" r'def' u"ghi" 'jkl' u'abcdefghijkl' So, different representations of literals are parsed as separate literals, then concatenated. To have the behaviour y

Re: Python/Fortran interoperability

In article <5134d9f1-0e23-4e05-a817-bf0cc9e85...@w6g2000yqw.googlegroups.com>, sturlamolden wrote: >On 24 Aug, 02:26, nos...@see.signature (Richard Maine) wrote: > >> You missed the word "OOP", which seemed like the whole point. Not that >> the particular word is used in the Fortran standard, but

Re: Numeric literals in other than base 10 - was Annoying octal notation

On Monday 24 August 2009 01:04:37 bartc wrote: > That's a neat idea. But an even simpler scheme might be: > > .octal.100 > .decimal.100 > .hex.100 > .binary.100 > .trinary.100 > > until it gets to this anyway: > > .thiryseximal.100 Yeah right. So now I first have to type a string, which probably

Re: Numeric literals in other than base 10 - was Annoying octal notation

On 24 Aug, 09:05, Erik Max Francis wrote: ... > >> Here's another suggested number literal format. First, keep the > >> familar 0x and 0b of C and others and to add 0t for octal. (T is the > >> third letter of octal as X is the third letter of hex.) The numbers > >> above would be > > >>   0b101

Re: Numeric literals in other than base 10 - was Annoying octal notation

James Harris wrote: On 24 Aug, 09:05, Erik Max Francis wrote: Here's another suggested number literal format. First, keep the familar 0x and 0b of C and others and to add 0t for octal. (T is the third letter of octal as X is the third letter of hex.) The numbers above would be 0b1011, 0t7621,

Re: Numeric literals in other than base 10 - was Annoying octal notation

James Harris wrote: On 24 Aug, 02:19, Max Erickson wrote: It can be assumed however that .9. isn't in binary? That's a neat idea. But an even simpler scheme might be: .octal.100 .decimal.100 .hex.100 .binary.100 .trinary.100 until it gets to this anyway: .thiryseximal.100 At some point, abando

Re: Protecting against callbacks queuing up?

On Monday 24 August 2009 02:14:24 Esben von Buchwald wrote: > Hello > > I'm using Python for S60 1.9.7 on my Nokia phone. > > I've made a program that gets input from an accelerometer sensor, and > then calculates some stuff and displays the result. > > The sensor framework API does a callback to a

Re: Numeric literals in other than base 10 - was Annoying octal notation

Hendrik van Rooyen wrote: I also tried to include an example of a literal with a base of a Googol but I ran out of both ink and symbols. :-) ... or particles in the observable Universe, for that matter. -- Erik Max Francis && m...@alcyone.com && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA

Re: basic thread question

> Dennis Lee Bieber (DLB) wrote: >DLB> On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:14:17 -0700, John Nagle >DLB> declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: >>> Multiple Python processes can run concurrently, but each process >>> has a copy of the entire Python system, so the memory and cache footprin

Re: Items inheriting attributes from its container?

Kreso a écrit : I would like to create a list-like container class so that, additionally to usual list methods, I could attach attributes to the container instances. However, I would like it so that the items contained in the particular instance of container somehow 'inherit' those attributes i.e

Re: Numeric literals in other than base 10 - was Annoying octal notation

On 24 Aug, 09:30, Erik Max Francis wrote: > James Harris wrote: > > On 24 Aug, 09:05, Erik Max Francis wrote: > Here's another suggested number literal format. First, keep the > familar 0x and 0b of C and others and to add 0t for octal. (T is the > third letter of octal as X is the

Re: Newbie: list comprehension troubles..

mm a écrit : Hi, I'm trying to replace this... # this works but there must be a more pythonic way, right? tlist = [] for obj in self.objs: t = obj.intersect(ray) if (t != None): hint 1 : this is Python, you don't need parens around conditionals.

Re: sgmllib.py

elsa wrote: Hi all, I'm new to both this forum and Python, and I've got a bit stuck trying to learn how to parse HTML here is my problem I'm using a textbook that uses sgmllib.py for all its examples. I'm aware that sgmllib is not in the current release, however I want to get it to work, as

Re: Python and JMS

osky wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to make a JMS client connection from Python to Progress > Sonic ESB (JMS message provider similar to WebSphere MQ or Active > MQ). > > What would be the best way to implement that within Python 2.6 ? > Any ideas ? I just recently learned about JCC - a Java

Re: sgmllib.py

Dave Angel schrieb: > elsa wrote: >> python sgmllib.py "path/to/my/file.html" example (1) > > The path in the error message simply refers to the full path string to > your Python interpreter, and reflects %0 in your shell. So I'd assume > you've got a script called 'python' on your path, whi

Re: basic thread question

Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:14:17 -0700, John Nagle declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: Multiple Python processes can run concurrently, but each process has a copy of the entire Python system, so the memory and cache footprints are far larger than

Re: elementtree

Stefan Behnel wrote: Hi, elsa wrote: I know how to turn HTML into an ElementTree object I don't. ;) ElementTree doesn't have an HTML parser, so what do you use for parsing? but I don't know how to then view the structure of this object. Is there a method or module that you can

Re: elementtree

Dave Angel wrote: > Stefan Behnel wrote: >> elsa wrote: >>> I know how to turn HTML into an ElementTree object >> >> I don't. ;) >> >> ElementTree doesn't have an HTML parser, so what do you use for parsing? >> > Perhaps the OP was referring to XHTML, which should be eligible for > ElementTree.

Re: Python and JMS

osky wrote: > I would like to make a JMS client connection from Python to Progress > Sonic ESB (JMS message provider similar to WebSphere MQ or Active > MQ). Never needed this, but Google gives me this as first hit http://hjb.python-hosting.com/ and this c.l.py thread reference a little further

Re: Literal concatenation, strings vs. numbers (was: Numeric literals in other than base 10 - was Annoying octal notation)

On Aug 23, 7:45 pm, Ben Finney wrote: > greg writes: > > J. Cliff Dyer wrote: > > > > What happens if you use a literal like 0x10f 304? > > > To me the obvious thing to do is concatenate them textually and then > > treat the whole thing as a single numeric literal. Anything else > > wouldn't be s

Re: can python make web applications?

Deep_Feelings wrote: can python make powerfull database web applications that can replace desktop database applications? e.g: entrprise accounting programs,enterprise human resource management programs ...etc As the other replies already mentioned that these already exists, I would like to add t

Re: basic thread question

> Dave Angel (DA) wrote: >DA> Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:14:17 -0700, John Nagle >>> declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: >>> >>> Multiple Python processes can run concurrently, but each process has a copy of the entire Python system, so

Re: elementtree

On Aug 24, 12:13 am, Stefan Behnel wrote: > Hi, > > elsa wrote: > > I know how to turn HTML into an ElementTree object > > I don't. ;) > > ElementTree doesn't have an HTML parser, so what do you use for parsing? The OP could be feeding the HTML through tidy, or it could be XHTML. > > but I don'

Re: your favorite debugging tool?

Esmail wrote: Hi all, What is your favorite tool to help you debug your code? I've been getting along with 'print' statements but that is getting old and somewhat cumbersome. I'm primarily interested in utilities for Linux (but if you have recommendations for Windows, I'll take them too :) I u

Re: Newbie: list comprehension troubles..

On 24 Ago, 01:27, mm wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to replace this... > >         # this works but there must be a more pythonic way, right? >         tlist = [] >         for obj in self.objs: >             t = obj.intersect(ray) >             if (t != None): >                 tlist.append((obj,t)) > >

Re: Is Python what I need?

Peter Otten wrote: newbie wrote: I'm interested in developing computer based, interactive programs for students in a special school who have an aversion to pen and paper. I've searched the net to find ready made software that will meet my needs but it is either written to a level much higher

Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

Hello I was wondering if some people in this ng use Python and some GUI toolkit (PyWin32, wxWidgets, QT, etc.) to build professional applications, and if yes, what it's like, the pros and cons, etc. I'm especially concerned about the lack of controls, the lack of updates (lots of controls

Re: Numeric literals in other than base 10 - was Annoying octal notation

On Aug 23, 9:42 pm, James Harris wrote: > The numbers above would be > > 0b1011, 0t7621, 0xc26b Algol68 has the type BITS, that is converted to INT with the ABS operator. The numbers above would be: > 2r1011, 8r7621, 16rc26b "r" is for radix: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radix The standard

Re: [ANN] pyxser-1.2r --- Python-Object to XML serialization module

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Stefan Behnel on Monday 24 August 2009 03:16 wrote in comp.lang.python: > Daniel Molina Wegener wrote: >> * Added encoded serialization of Unicode strings by using >> the user defined encoding as is passed to the serialization >>

Temat:,Re: IOError: [Errno 22] invalid mode ('wb') or filename: in windows xp while making tarfile

John Machin wrote: Erik Max Francis alcyone.com> writes: I also suspect the "pipe" symbol. I don't know if it's an invalid character to Windows, but it's certainly a bad idea. The '|' character means something special to the shell. The "pipe" character is not a vali

Re: [ANN] pyxser-1.2r --- Python-Object to XML serialization module

Daniel Molina Wegener wrote: > unicode objects are encoded into the > encoding that the XML document encoding has, and as you say, the whole > XML document has one encoding. There is no mixing of byte encoded strings > with different encodings in the outout document. Ok, that's what I hoped anyway

Re: Numeric literals in other than base 10 - was Annoying octal notation

James Harris wrote: > On 24 Aug, 02:19, Max Erickson wrote: [ ... ] >> >>> int('100', 3) >> 9 >> >>> int('100', 36) >> 1296 > > This is fine typed into the language directly but couldn't be entered > by the user or read-in from or written to a file. That's rather beside the point. Literals don

Re: conditional for-statement

seb a écrit : Hi, i was wondering if there is a syntax alike: for i in range(10) if i > 5: print i equivalent to for i in (for i in range(10) if i>5): print i what about : for i in range(6, 10): print i More seriously: for i in range(10): if i > 5: print i -- h

P3 weird sys.stdout.write()

I've stumbled upon the following in Python 3: Python 3.0.1+ (r301:69556, Apr 15 2009, 15:59:22) [GCC 4.3.3] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import sys >>> sys.stdout.write("") 0 >>> sys.stdout.write("something") something9 >>> write() is append

Re: P3 weird sys.stdout.write()

Jerzy Jalocha N wrote: > I've stumbled upon the following in Python 3: > > Python 3.0.1+ (r301:69556, Apr 15 2009, 15:59:22) > [GCC 4.3.3] on linux2 > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. import sys sys.stdout.write("") > 0 sys.stdout.write("someth

Re: P3 weird sys.stdout.write()

On Aug 24, 10:13 am, Jerzy Jalocha N wrote: > I've stumbled upon the following in Python 3: > > Python 3.0.1+ (r301:69556, Apr 15 2009, 15:59:22) > [GCC 4.3.3] on linux2 > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. > > >>> import sys > >>> sys.stdout.write("") > 0 > >>>

Re: Is Python what I need?

Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: >> >From the distance it looks like these children need a good teacher >> >rather than a bad (or just starting) programmer. > Wow, that is rude. Let's keep this list friendly, won't we ? I may have been too blunt, and if my message has come across as an insult I apo

Re: Annoying octal notation

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 06:13:31AM +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:19:01 -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 02:55:51AM +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> And the great thing is that now you get to teach yourself to stop > >> writing octal numbers implicitl

Re: P3 weird sys.stdout.write()

>>> import sys >>> n = sys.stdout.write('something') something>>> n 9 >>> Yes, that works as expected, now, similar to 2.6. Thank you both, Diez and André! -Jerzy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python/Fortran interoperability

On 24 Aug, 10:24, n...@cam.ac.uk wrote: > In article <5134d9f1-0e23-4e05-a817-bf0cc9e85...@w6g2000yqw.googlegroups.com>, > > sturlamolden   wrote: > >On 24 Aug, 02:26, nos...@see.signature (Richard Maine) wrote: > > >> You missed the word "OOP", which seemed like the whole point. Not that > >> the

Re: Python/Fortran interoperability

sturlamolden wrote: > On 24 Aug, 02:57, nos...@see.signature (Richard Maine) wrote: > > Does anyone use OOP in Fortran anyway? I do - currently for learning (and eventually training) purposes so I don't distribute any of the code. But, the fact that... > Fortran 2003 compilers are not ubiquitou

Re: Annoying octal notation

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 01:13:32PM +, Matthew Woodcraft wrote: > Dennis Lee Bieber writes: > > About the only place one commonly sees leading zeros on decimal > > numbers, in my experience, is zero-filled COBOL data decks (and since > > classic COBOL stores in BCD anyway... binary (usage i

Re: Object Reference question

josef a écrit : (snip) > I think that something like a = MyClass0(name = 'a', ...) is a bit redundant. Are definitions treated the same way? How would one print or pass function names? In Python, classes and functions are objects too. The class and def statements are mostly syntactic sugar th

IOError: [Errno 22] invalid mode ('wb') or filename: in windows xp while making tarfile

>> John Machin wrote: >>> Erik Max Francis alcyone.com> writes: >> I also suspect the "pipe" symbol. I don't know if it's an invalid >> character to Windows, but it's certainly a bad idea. The '|' character >> means something special to the shell. > The "pipe" character is not a valid charact

Re: Annoying octal notation

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 08:56:48AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 01:13:32PM +, Matthew Woodcraft wrote: > > A more common case is dates. > > I suppose this is true, but [...] > I tend to also discount this example, because when we write dates > with leading zeros, usuall

Re: Trying To Catch Invalid User Input

That's nice. Thanks! V On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:04:57 -0500, Victor Subervi > declaimed the following in > gmane.comp.python.general: > > > Hi; > > I have the following: > > > > style = raw_input('What style is this? (1 = short, 2 = long)

Re: basic thread question

On 18 Aug, 22:10, Derek Martin wrote: > I have some simple threaded code...  If I run this > with an arg of 1 (start one thread), it pegs one cpu, as I would > expect.  If I run it with an arg of 2 (start 2 threads), it uses both > CPUs, but utilization of both is less than 50%.  Can anyone expla

Re: Is Python what I need?

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Peter Otten<__pete...@web.de> wrote: > If you are trying to teach children that are unwilling to use pen and paper > putting them in front of a computer doesn't help you and them one bit. As a > starting programmer you'll have to spend a lot of time in front of your

Re: basic thread question

On 24 Aug, 13:21, Piet van Oostrum wrote: > But os.fork() is not available on Windows. And I guess refcounts et al. > will soon destroy the sharing. Well, there is os.fork in Cygwin and SUA (SUA is the Unix subsytem in Windows Vista Professional). Cygwin's fork is a bit sluggish. Multiprocessin

Reading binary files

I need to read a binary file. When I open it up in a text editor it is just junk. Does Python have a class to help with this? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Temat:,Re: IOError: [Errno 22] invalid mode ('wb') or filename: in windows xp while making tarfile

Ryniek90 wrote: John Machin wrote: Erik Max Francis alcyone.com> writes: I also suspect the "pipe" symbol. I don't know if it's an invalid character to Windows, but it's certainly a bad idea. The '|' character means something special to the shell. The "pipe" character

Re: Numeric literals in other than base 10 - was Annoying octal?notation

J. Cliff Dyer wrote: > I had an objection to using spaces in numeric literals last time around > and it still stands, and it still stands in the new one. > Or, we can use U+00A0 NO-BREAK SPACE, once we already have unicode variable names :-) (probably some people would find it difficult to type,

Re: Reading binary files

The built-in file type deals with this just fine. You can simply specify when opening the file that it is to be opened as binary: http://docs.python.org/library/functions.html#open On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:35:09 -0700, Ronn Ross wrote: I need to read a binary file. When I open it up in a text

Re: Reading binary files

On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 10:35 -0400, Ronn Ross wrote: > I need to read a binary file. When I open it up in a text editor it is > just junk. Does Python have a class to help with this? Yes, the "file" class. >>> myfile = open('/path/to/binary/file', 'rb') -a -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/li

Re: Temat:,Re: IOError: [Errno 22] invalid mode ('wb') or filename: in windows xp while making tarfile

Dave Angel wrote: You still haven't gotten rid of those illegal colons in the filename. They're not legal in Windows, as has been pointed out a couple of times in this thread. Ummm.. Colons are of course legal in Windows filenames as designating the Alternate Data Streams: with open ("c:/t

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

On 24 Aug, 14:08, Gilles Ganault wrote: > I'm especially concerned about the lack of controls, the lack of > updates (lots of controls in wxWidgets are 1.0 deadware), and problems > linked to how to update users' PC remotely when I build a new version > using eg. Py2exe. There is pywin32 if you

Re: P3 weird sys.stdout.write()

Jerzy Jalocha N wrote: I've stumbled upon the following in Python 3: Python 3.0.1+ (r301:69556, Apr 15 2009, 15:59:22) [GCC 4.3.3] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. import sys sys.stdout.write("") 0 sys.stdout.write("something")

Re: Temat:, Re: IOError: [Errno 22] invalid mode ('wb') or filename: in windows xp while making tarfile

On Aug 25, 12:46 am, Tim Golden wrote: > Dave Angel wrote: > > You still haven't gotten rid of those illegal colons in the filename.   > > They're not legal in Windows, as has been pointed out a couple of times > > in this thread. > > Ummm.. Colons are of course legal in Windows filenames as desig

Re: Python/Fortran interoperability

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Stefan Behnel wrote: > n...@cam.ac.uk wrote: >> I am interested in surveying people who want to interoperate between >> Fortran and Python to find out what they would like to be able to do >> more conveniently, especially with regard to types not supported for C >>

problem to write a THREAD enabled python extension

Hi, the following scenario: 1. using GIL 2. a pthread is created in a library and have to be "announced" to python 3. the thread is created in a "PyObject_CallObject" function call from extension c code using a other extension c-code function called from python code python

Re: IOError: [Errno 22] invalid mode ('wb') or filename: in windows xp while making tarfile

> > The proper path is "C:\\Users\\Ryniek's > WinSe7en\\MyNewGGBackup(2009-08-23 14:59:02).tar.bz2" > and that string literal is "\U", without any pipes :) > > The truth is that script works on linux (ubuntu) but not on windows > (neither Win7 nor WinXP). > Maybe it's good idea to use raw string f

Fedex + SOAP

Fedex has recently started the process to transition from their XML- based Web Services to the new SOAP-based equivalent. I've been trying unsuccessfully to get an example SOAP transaction working with their new service, but am running into validation problems. I was wondering if anyone has alread

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

On 24 Aug, 14:08, Gilles Ganault wrote: > and problems > linked to how to update users' PC remotely when I build a new version > using eg. Py2exe. Remote update is a problem regardless of language. It typically involves the following steps: 1. Download the update from a server using a backgroun

Re: problem to write a THREAD enabled python extension

Andreas Otto wrote: > Hi, > > the following scenario: > > 1. using GIL > 2. a pthread is created in a library and have to be "announced" to python > 3. the thread is created in a "PyObject_CallObject" function call from > extension c code using a other extension c-code function call

Re: P3 weird sys.stdout.write()

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Dave Angel wrote: > The write() function changed in 3.0, but not in the way you're describing. >  It now (usually) has a return value, the count of the number of characters > written. [...] > But because you're running from the interpreter, you're seeing the return

Re: your favorite debugging tool?

Hello, thank you all for your suggestions/comments. While I do believe in a minimalist approach (part of the reason I find Python so appealing), using print statements sometimes only goes so far (for me). I probably should look into using iPython in the context of debugging (I already use this

print() and unicode strings (python 3.1)

==python 2.6 == import sys print sys.getdefaultencoding() s = u"\u20ac" print s.encode("utf-8") $ python2.6 1test.py ascii € =python 3.1 === import sys print(sys.getdefaultencoding()) s = "€" print(s.encode("utf-8")) print(s) $ python3.1 1test.py utf-8 b'\xe2\x82\xac' Tra

Re: Annoying octal notation

On Aug 24, 6:56 am, Derek Martin wrote: > I think > hard-coding dates is more uncommon than using octal. ;-)  [It > unquestionably is, for me personally.] You just don't get it, do you? Do you really think this is a contest over what's more common and the winner gets to choose the syntax? You r

Re: Protecting against callbacks queuing up?

Hendrik van Rooyen wrote: see if there is an "after" method somewhere. What you have to do is to "break the link" between the callback and the processing. Your code above is all in the callback "thread", despite the fact that you call another function to do the processing. So if you replace

Re: Literal concatenation, strings vs. numbers (was: Numeric literals in other than base 10 - was Annoying octal notation)

On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:45:25 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > greg writes: > >> J. Cliff Dyer wrote: >> >> > What happens if you use a literal like 0x10f 304? >> >> To me the obvious thing to do is concatenate them textually and then >> treat the whole thing as a single numeric literal. Anything else

Re: Need cleanup advice for multiline string

On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:40:03 +0200, Stefan Behnel wrote: >> Or you could enter the 21 century and understand that "guys" has become >> a generic term for people of any sex. > > Is that true for everyone who understands and/or writes English? In that > case, I'm fine with your above statement. Oth

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

> >I was wondering if some people in this ng use Python and some GUI > toolkit (PyWin32, wxWidgets, QT, etc.) to build professional > applications, and if yes, what it's like, the pros and cons, etc. My company does. A few years ago we decided to re-write our entire aging product line in

Re: Annoying octal notation

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 05:22:39PM +0200, Hendrik van Rooyen wrote: > > Assuming I'm right about that, then the use of a leading 0 to > > represent octal actually predates the prevalence of using 0 in dates > > by almost two decades. > > Not quite - at the time I started, punch cards and data ent

Re: print() and unicode strings (python 3.1)

> I don't understand why I'm getting an encode error in python 3.1. The default encoding is not relevant here at all. Look at sys.stdout.encoding. Regards, Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.6 still not giving memory back to the OS...

Martin v. Löwis wrote: Today, there are two cases when malloc returns memory on a typical Unix system (in particular, in Linux malloc): a) if the malloc block block is small (below page size), it is allocated from the brk heap, where it can only be returned if the last page of that heap is

Re: Numeric literals in other than base 10 - was Annoying octal notation

Piet van Oostrum wrote: Scott David Daniels (SDD) wrote: SDD> James Harris wrote:... Another option: 0.(2:1011), 0.(8:7621), 0.(16:c26b) where the three characters "0.(" begin the sequence. Comments? Improvements? SDD> I did a little interpreter where non-base 10 numbers SDD> (up to ba

Re: Barcodes

Ronn Ross wrote: I found this library, but no documentation(https://cybernetics.hudora.biz/projects/wiki/huBarcode). Has anyone used this or know of a similar library with better documentation? Yup, reportlab has really good barcode generation stuff. I use it to generate labels with barcode

Re: Need cleanup advice for multiline string

Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:40:03 +0200, Stefan Behnel wrote: > >>> Or you could enter the 21 century and understand that "guys" has become >>> a generic term for people of any sex. >> Is that true for everyone who understands and/or writes English? In that >> case, I'm fine wi

Re: Annoying octal notation

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 08:31:13AM -0700, Carl Banks wrote: > On Aug 24, 6:56 am, Derek Martin wrote: > > I think hard-coding dates is more uncommon than using octal. ;-) > > [It unquestionably is, for me personally.] > > You just don't get it, do you? I think I get it just fine, thanks. > Do

Re: Annoying octal notation

On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:14:25 -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > Assuming I'm right about that, then the use of a leading 0 to represent > octal actually predates the prevalence of using 0 in dates by almost two > decades. And while using leading zeros in other contexts is "familiar" > to me, I would ce

Re: Reading binary files

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Ronn Ross wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Albert Hopkins > wrote: > >> On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 10:35 -0400, Ronn Ross wrote: >> > I need to read a binary file. When I open it up in a text editor it is >> > just junk. Does Python have a class to help

Re: print() and unicode strings (python 3.1)

On Aug 24, 9:56 am, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > > I don't understand why I'm getting an encode error in python 3.1. > > The default encoding is not relevant here at all. Look at > sys.stdout.encoding. > > Regards, > Martin Hi, Thanks for the response. I get US-ASCII for both 2.6 and 3.1: ===pyt

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

On 08/24/2009 06:08 AM, Gilles Ganault wrote: > I was wondering if some people in this ng use Python and some GUI > toolkit (PyWin32, wxWidgets, QT, etc.) to build professional > applications, and if yes, what it's like, the pros and cons, etc. > > I'm especially concerned about the lack of c

Re: Annoying octal notation

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 04:47:43PM +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Except of course to anyone familiar with mathematics in the last, oh, > five hundred years or so. Mathematics has used a positional system for > numbers for centuries now: leading zeroes have been insignificant, just > like trail

Re: Annoying octal notation

On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:21:46 -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > since the old > syntax is prevalent both within and without the Python community, making > the change is, was, and always will be a bad idea. Octal syntax isn't prevalent *at all*, except in a small number of niche areas. You've said tha

Re: Is Python what I need?

On 2009-08-24 08:32 AM, Peter Otten wrote: Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: > From the distance it looks like these children need a good teacher rather than a bad (or just starting) programmer. Wow, that is rude. Let's keep this list friendly, won't we ? I may have been too blunt, and if my m

Re: Annoying octal notation

On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 Derek Martin wrote: >Those participating in this thread have pretty much all seem to agree >that the only places where decimal numbers with leading zeros really >are common are either in rather specialized applications, such as >computer-oriented data or serial numbers (which ty

Re: Python/Fortran interoperability

On 24 Aug, 18:20, n...@cam.ac.uk wrote: >This obviosuly proves you wrong: > > Er, no, it doesn't.  I suggest that you read what I said more > carefully - and the Fortran standard.  As I said, you can kludge > them up, and that is precisely one such kludge - You said we have to kludge them up as ar

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