Re: case do problem

2010-03-03 Thread Andre Engels
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Tracubik wrote: > and, generally > speaking, the try..except block slow down the execution of the program or > not? Try...except tends to be slow when the exception does occur, fast when it does not. Apart from that, if these fraction-of-a-fraction-of-a-second ga

Re: cpan for python?

2010-03-03 Thread TomF
On 2010-03-02 19:59:01 -0800, Lie Ryan said: On 03/03/2010 09:47 AM, TomF wrote: On 2010-03-02 13:14:50 -0800, R Fritz said: On 2010-02-28 06:31:56 -0800, sstein...@gmail.com said: On Feb 28, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Someone Something wrote: Is there something like cpan for python? I like pyth

process mp3 file

2010-03-03 Thread asit
Somebody suggest me a python library for processing mp3 file. Here I don't want to play the file. Thank you -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: case do problem

2010-03-03 Thread Peter Otten
Tracubik wrote: > hi, i've to convert from Pascal this code: program loop; function generic_condition: boolean; begin generic_condition := random > 0.7 end; procedure loop; var iterations, count, m: integer; begin iterations := 0; count := 0; m := 0; repeat iterations :=

Re: nonunique string replacements

2010-03-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:06:13 -0800, Ben Racine wrote: > All, > > Say I have a string "l" ... > > l = 'PBUSH 201005 K 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. > 1.' > > And I want to replace the first " 1." with a "500.2" and the second " > 1." with " 5.2" ... > > What pythonic

Re: python 2.6: how to modify a PIL image from C without copying forth and back

2010-03-03 Thread News123
Hi Tim, Tim Roberts wrote: > News123 wrote: >> I created a grayscale image with PIL. >> >> Now I would like to write a C function, which reads a;most all pixels >> and will modify a few of them. >> >> My current approach is: >> - transform the image to a string() >> - create a byte array huge eno

Re: nonunique string replacements

2010-03-03 Thread Peter Otten
Ben Racine wrote: > Say I have a string "l" ... > > l = 'PBUSH 201005 K 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. > 1.' > > And I want to replace the first " 1." with a "500.2" and the second " > 1." with " 5.2" ... > > What pythonic means would you all recommend? With regular

Re: Image.frombuffer and warning

2010-03-03 Thread Peter Otten
News123 wrote: > I am using the PIL function from_buffer in python 2.6.4 > > I am having the line > im2 = Image.frombuffer('L',(wx,wy),buf) > > > I receive the warning: >> ./pytest.py:63: RuntimeWarning: the frombuffer defaults may change in > a future release; for portability, change the call

Re: python 2.6: how to modify a PIL image from C without copying forth and back

2010-03-03 Thread Stefan Behnel
News123, 03.03.2010 01:38: I created a grayscale image with PIL. Now I would like to write a C function, which reads a;most all pixels and will modify a few of them. My current approach is: - transform the image to a string() - create a byte array huge enough to contain the resulting image - ca

Re: conditional import into global namespace

2010-03-03 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Am 02.03.10 21:41, schrieb mk: Jerry Hill wrote: Just import subprocess at the top of your module. If subprocess hasn't been imported yet, it will be imported when your module is loaded. If it's already been imported, your module will use the cached version that's already been imported. In othe

Interest check in some delicious syntactic sugar for "except:pass"

2010-03-03 Thread Oren Elrad
Howdy all, longtime appreciative user, first time mailer-inner. I'm wondering if there is any support (tepid better than none) for the following syntactic sugar: silence: block -> try: block except: pass The logic here is that there are a ton of

Re: python 2.6: how to modify a PIL image from C without copying forth and back

2010-03-03 Thread News123
Hi Stefan, Stefan Behnel wrote: > News123, 03.03.2010 01:38: >> I created a grayscale image with PIL. >> >> Now I would like to write a C function, which reads a;most all pixels >> and will modify a few of them. >> >> My current approach is: >> - transform the image to a string() >> - create a byt

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

2010-03-03 Thread BlueBird
On Feb 24, 9:23 pm, Andreas Waldenburger wrote: > Hi all, > > a company that works with my company writes a lot of of their code in > Python (lucky jerks). I've seen their code and it basically looks like > this: > > """Function that does stuff""" > def doStuff(): >     while not wise(up): >      

Re: Image.frombuffer and warning

2010-03-03 Thread News123
Hi Peter, Peter Otten wrote: > News123 wrote: > I cannot reproduce the problem: > > $ cat frombuffer.py > import sys > import Image > wx = 3 > wy = 2 > buf = "a"*wx*wy > if "--fixed" in sys.argv: > Image.frombuffer("L", (wx, wy), buf, "raw", "L", 0, 1) > else: > Image.frombuffer("L", (wx,

exp_internal in pexpect

2010-03-03 Thread Pankaj
how to enable expect log in pexpect ? (similar as exp_internal in expect) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python 2.6: how to modify a PIL image from C without copying forth and back

2010-03-03 Thread Stefan Behnel
News123, 03.03.2010 10:37: Stefan Behnel wrote: Take a look at Cython instead, it will allow you to access PIL's image buffer directly, instead of copying the data. It will also simplify and speed up your C wrapper code. I don't know Cython. Having looked at the web site I'm not entirely sure,

PYTHONPATH and eggs

2010-03-03 Thread geoffbache
Hi all, I have a very simple problem that seems to have no simple solution. I have a module which is installed centrally and lives in a Python egg. I have experimented with some minor changes to it and would like to set my PYTHONPATH to pick up my local copy of it, but don't want to have to figur

Re: Interest check in some delicious syntactic sugar for "except:pass"

2010-03-03 Thread Chris Rebert
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Oren Elrad wrote: > Howdy all, longtime appreciative user, first time mailer-inner. > > I'm wondering if there is any support (tepid better than none) for the > following syntactic sugar: > > silence: > block > > -> > > try: > ..

Re: process mp3 file

2010-03-03 Thread Chris Rebert
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:33 AM, asit wrote: > Somebody suggest me a python library for processing mp3 file.  Here I > don't want to play the file. Define "processing". Cheers, Chris -- http://blog.rebertia.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Interest check in some delicious syntactic sugar for "except:pass"

2010-03-03 Thread Dave Angel
Oren Elrad wrote: Howdy all, longtime appreciative user, first time mailer-inner. I'm wondering if there is any support (tepid better than none) for the following syntactic sugar: silence: block -> try: block except: pass The logic here is tha

Re: process mp3 file

2010-03-03 Thread asit
> Define "processing". getting the title, song name, etc of the file and updating in a database -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Method / Functions - What are the differences?

2010-03-03 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Eike Welk a écrit : John Posner wrote: I've updated the text at this location: > http://cl1p.net/bruno_0301.rst/ I think this is a very useful writeup! It would be perfect with a little bit of introduction that says: 1. - What it is: "The rough details of method look-up"; 2. - which con

Re: Interest check in some delicious syntactic sugar for "except:pass"

2010-03-03 Thread Andre Engels
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Oren Elrad wrote: > Howdy all, longtime appreciative user, first time mailer-inner. > > I'm wondering if there is any support (tepid better than none) for the > following syntactic sugar: > > silence: > block > > -> > > try: > .

Re: process mp3 file

2010-03-03 Thread Chris Rebert
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:43 AM, asit wrote: >> Define "processing". > > getting the title, song name, etc of the file and updating in a > database You'd want an ID3 tag library then. Here's one: http://eyed3.nicfit.net/ Cheers, Chris -- http://blog.rebertia.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailma

easy install failed

2010-03-03 Thread durumd...@gmail.com
Hi! Windows, Py2.6. I read about Pyda and Spider. I used Pyscripter, Geany, ULIPAD, and COntext, and Netbeans with Python; but I want to try these products. But easy_install failed on get them: C:\Python26\Scripts>easy_install.exe pida Searching for pida Reading http://pypi.python.o

Re Interest check in some delicious syntactic sugar for "except:pass"

2010-03-03 Thread Oren Elrad
To all that responded, thanks for the prompt response folks, your criticisms are well taken. Coming from Cland, one is inculcated with the notion that if the programmer wants to shoot himself in the foot the language ought not to prevent that (or even should return him a loaded magnum with the safe

monkey patching with @classmethod

2010-03-03 Thread gentlestone
Hi, is there some well-known problems with class method monkey patching? I've got this error message: unbound method get_pocet_neocislovanych() must be called with Pozemok instance as first argument (got Subjekt instance instead) The method is declared as: @classmethod @monkeypatch(Dokument) def

Re: monkey patching with @classmethod

2010-03-03 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
gentlestone a écrit : Hi, is there some well-known problems with class method monkey patching? I've got this error message: unbound method get_pocet_neocislovanych() must be called with Pozemok instance as first argument (got Subjekt instance instead) The method is declared as: @classmethod

Re: monkey patching with @classmethod

2010-03-03 Thread gentlestone
On 3. Mar., 12:57 h., gentlestone wrote: > Hi, is there some well-known problems with class method monkey > patching? > > I've got this error message: > > unbound method get_pocet_neocislovanych() must be called with Pozemok > instance as first argument (got Subjekt instance instead) > > The metho

Re: Which mock library do you prefer?

2010-03-03 Thread Albert van der Horst
In article , Lacrima wrote: >On Feb 16, 10:30=A0pm, Ben Finney wrote: >> Lacrima writes: >> > And I have already refused to write totally isolated tests, because it >> > looks like a great waste of time. >> >> It only looks like that until you chase your tail in a long, fruitless >> debugging s

Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread Olof Bjarnason
Hi everybody! The "Where is CPAN for Python?" question keeps popping up, with answers ranging from "There is no CPAN for Python" and "We already have CPAN for Python" (confusing). I'm wondering - is there any work being done identifying .. (1) what is so good with CPAN? (2) how can it be brought

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread Stefan Behnel
Olof Bjarnason, 03.03.2010 13:45: The "Where is CPAN for Python?" question keeps popping up, with answers ranging from "There is no CPAN for Python" and "We already have CPAN for Python" (confusing). It confuses me that you call this "confusing". I'm wondering - is there any work being done

Re: Interest check in some delicious syntactic sugar for "except:pass"

2010-03-03 Thread Tim Chase
Oren Elrad wrote: I'm wondering if there is any support (tepid better than none) for the following syntactic sugar: silence: block -> try: block except: pass The general response to "except: pass" from the Old Ones on the python list (and tho

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread Olof Bjarnason
2010/3/3 Stefan Behnel : > Olof Bjarnason, 03.03.2010 13:45: >> >> The "Where is CPAN for Python?" question keeps popping up, with >> answers ranging from "There is no CPAN for Python" and "We already >> have CPAN for Python" (confusing). > > It confuses me that you call this "confusing". How come

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread Stefan Behnel
Stefan Behnel, 03.03.2010 13:52: Olof Bjarnason, 03.03.2010 13:45: The "Where is CPAN for Python?" question keeps popping up, with answers ranging from "There is no CPAN for Python" and "We already have CPAN for Python" (confusing). It confuses me that you call this "confusing". I'm wonderi

Re: Which mock library do you prefer?

2010-03-03 Thread Ben Finney
Albert van der Horst writes: > Unit testing is a concept that goes well with functions without side > effects. If you have classes, that doesn't work so well. How so? Unit tests are ideal for testing classes, in my experience; they can be inspected and tested as a distinct unit of code. > For c

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

2010-03-03 Thread Lie Ryan
On 03/03/2010 04:48 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Or one can simply use *reason*: what justification is there for putting > comments in strings at the top of the function? The only one I can see is > if you are writing for an embedded device, you may want to remove doc > strings to save memory --

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread Ben Finney
Olof Bjarnason writes: > Hi everybody! > > The "Where is CPAN for Python?" question keeps popping up, with > answers ranging from "There is no CPAN for Python" and "We already > have CPAN for Python" (confusing). Caused in no small measure by the fact that Perl people mean at least two distinct

Re: There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it (was "Interest check in some delicious syntactic sugar for "except:pass"")

2010-03-03 Thread Lie Ryan
On 03/03/2010 08:27 PM, Oren Elrad wrote: > Howdy all, longtime appreciative user, first time mailer-inner. > > I'm wondering if there is any support (tepid better than none) for the > following syntactic sugar: > > silence: > . block > > -> > > try: > .b

Re: Re Interest check in some delicious syntactic sugar for "except:pass"

2010-03-03 Thread Benjamin Kaplan
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:47 AM, Oren Elrad wrote: > To all that responded, thanks for the prompt response folks, your > criticisms are well taken. Coming from Cland, one is inculcated with > the notion that if the programmer wants to shoot himself in the foot > the language ought not to prevent t

RICHARD MOORE wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn

2010-03-03 Thread RICHARD MOORE
LinkedIn I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - RICHARD MOORE Confirm that you know RICHARD MOORE https://www.linkedin.com/e/isd/1117171902/jlHq1JKw/EML-invg_56/ -- (c) 2010, LinkedIn Corporation-- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-lis

Re: monkey patching with @classmethod

2010-03-03 Thread gentlestone
On 3. Mar., 13:09 h., Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > gentlestone a écrit : > > > > > Hi, is there some well-known problems with class method monkey > > patching? > > > I've got this error message: > > > unbound method get_pocet_neocislovanych() must be called with Pozemok > > instance as first argum

RICHARD MOORE wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn

2010-03-03 Thread RICHARD MOORE
LinkedIn I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - RICHARD MOORE Confirm that you know RICHARD MOORE https://www.linkedin.com/e/isd/1117171902/jlHq1JKw/EML-invg_56/ -- (c) 2010, LinkedIn Corporation-- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-lis

Re: Re Interest check in some delicious syntactic sugar for "except:pass"

2010-03-03 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
> By way of motivation, I wrote that email after copying/pasting the > following a few times around a project until I wrote it into def > SilentlyDelete() and its cousin SilentlyRmdir() > > """ code involving somefile """ > try: > os.remove(somefile) > except: > ...pass # The bloody

Few early questions on Class

2010-03-03 Thread joy99
Dear Group, I was practising some early example of class if you can kindly let me know where I was going wrong. I am pasting directly from IDLE. There may be slight indentation problem. I am using Python 2.6.4 on Windows XP Service Pack 3. The Code and the output: >>> class Student: def

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

2010-03-03 Thread MRAB
Gregory Ewing wrote: MRAB wrote: BTW, the first programming I did was in hexadecimal (C4xx was "LDI xx"). Hey, a SC/MP! That was my first programming language, too. What sort of machine was it in? Mk14 from Science of Cambridge, a kit with hex keypad and 7-segment display, which I had to so

save CRL to a file (M2Crypto.X509.CRL object)

2010-03-03 Thread pranav
I do not see an option to save M2Crypto.X509.CRL object to a file. Am I overlooking something? Thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Few early questions on Class

2010-03-03 Thread John Gabriele
Hi Subhabrata, s/_init_/__init__/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: case do problem

2010-03-03 Thread MRAB
Gregory Ewing wrote: Alf P. Steinbach wrote: * Tracubik: > iterations=0; count=0; REPEAT; iterations = iterations+1; ... IF (genericCondition) THEN count=count+1; ... CASE count OF: 1: m = 1 2: m = 10 3: m = 100 Uhm, is this syntactically valid Pascal? As I rec

Re: Re Interest check in some delicious syntactic sugar for "except:pass"

2010-03-03 Thread Tim Chase
Oren Elrad wrote: """ code involving somefile """ try: os.remove(somefile) except: ...pass # The bloody search indexer has got the file and I can't delete it. Nothing to be done. I admit there are times I've done something similar, usually with what I call my "int0" and "float

pyao makes the right sound but why?

2010-03-03 Thread '2+
with my soy.py tofu = soy.Bean() x = tofu.pattern(44100 * 3) creates x which is an array('h') and len(x) = 44100 * 6 this x is a stereo groove pattern that lasts 3 sec if samplerate is set to 44100 and since wave.py could save it to a_file.wav i was wondering if dev = ao.AudioDevice('alsa') dev.

Re: Method / Functions - What are the differences?

2010-03-03 Thread John Posner
On 3/3/2010 5:56 AM, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: Eike Welk a écrit : John Posner wrote: I've updated the text at this location: > http://cl1p.net/bruno_0301.rst/ I think this is a very useful writeup! It would be perfect with a little bit of introduction that says: 1. - What it is: "The rough

Re: Queue peek?

2010-03-03 Thread Veloz
On Mar 3, 1:14 am, Gregory Ewing wrote: > MRAB wrote: > > I suppose it depends on the complexity of the data structure. A dict's > > methods are threadsafe, for example, but if you have a data structure > > where access leads to multiple method calls then collectively they need > > a lock. > > It

Re: Re Interest check in some delicious syntactic sugar for "except:pass"

2010-03-03 Thread Michael Rudolf
Am 03.03.2010 12:47, schrieb Oren Elrad: """ code involving somefile """ try: os.remove(somefile) except: ...pass # The bloody search indexer has got the file and I can't delete it. Nothing to be done. You don't know that what you stated in your comment is true. All you know is

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread John Gabriele
On Mar 3, 7:45 am, Olof Bjarnason wrote: > Hi everybody! > > The "Where is CPAN for Python?" question keeps popping up, with > answers ranging from "There is no CPAN for Python" and "We already > have CPAN for Python" (confusing). > > I'm wondering - is there any work being done identifying .. > >

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

2010-03-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-03-03, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Just a mediocre copy of the CP/M filesystem, which was in turn >> copied from DEC's RSTS or RSX. > > It was actually an improvement over CP/M's file > system. CP/M didn't have hierarchical directories Neither did the original MS-DOS

Re: cpan for python?

2010-03-03 Thread John Gabriele
On Mar 2, 11:58 pm, John Bokma wrote: > Lie Ryan writes: > > On 03/03/2010 09:47 AM, TomF wrote: > > [..] > > >> There > >> is also a program called cpan, distributed with Perl.  It is used for > >> searching, downloading, installing and testing modules from the CPAN > >> repository.  It's far mo

A "scopeguard" for Python

2010-03-03 Thread Alf P. Steinbach
For C++ Petru Marginean once invented the "scope guard" technique (elaborated on by Andrei Alexandrescu, they published an article about it in DDJ) where all you need to do to ensure some desired cleanup at the end of a scope, even when the scope is exited via an exception, is to declare a Scope

PAGINE DI UNA ITALIA MERAVIGLIOSA

2010-03-03 Thread ItaliaWeekend
Title: ITALIA WEEKEND Pregiatissima Azienda, Sottoponiamo alla Vost

Re: Interest check in some delicious syntactic sugar for "except:pass"

2010-03-03 Thread MRAB
Oren Elrad wrote: Howdy all, longtime appreciative user, first time mailer-inner. I'm wondering if there is any support (tepid better than none) for the following syntactic sugar: silence: block -> try: block except: pass The logic here is tha

Re: Is this secure?

2010-03-03 Thread Michael Rudolf
Am 03.03.2010 04:51, schrieb Lie Ryan: import itertools def gen(): valid_chars = 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz' for char in itertools.repeat(valid_chars): yield char gen = gen() def gen_rand_string(length): chars = (next(gen) for i in range(length)) return ''.join(char

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

2010-03-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-03-03, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2010-03-03, Gregory Ewing wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >> >>> Just a mediocre copy of the CP/M filesystem, which was in turn >>> copied from DEC's RSTS or RSX. >> >> It was actually an improvement over CP/M's file system. CP/M >> didn't have hierarchical

Re: A "scopeguard" for Python

2010-03-03 Thread Mike Kent
What's the compelling use case for this vs. a simple try/finally? original_dir = os.getcwd() try: os.chdir(somewhere) # Do other stuff finally: os.chdir(original_dir) # Do other cleanup -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Queue peek?

2010-03-03 Thread Steve Holden
Veloz wrote: > On Mar 3, 1:14 am, Gregory Ewing wrote: >> MRAB wrote: >>> I suppose it depends on the complexity of the data structure. A dict's >>> methods are threadsafe, for example, but if you have a data structure >>> where access leads to multiple method calls then collectively they need >>>

Smalltalk-like categories for methods ?

2010-03-03 Thread efruttero
Hello, Is there an IDE that supports methods categories/classification, either through some comment convention, annotation, or any other mean ? Thanks in advance, Eric Fruttero -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Re Interest check in some delicious syntactic sugar for "except:pass"

2010-03-03 Thread Mel
Tim Chase wrote: > I admit there are times I've done something similar, usually with > what I call my "int0" and "float0" utility functions which > roughly translate to "give me a stinkin' int/float and if > something goes wrong, give me 0, but the return result better > darn well be an int/float!"

Re: Draft PEP on RSON configuration file format

2010-03-03 Thread mk
Paul Rubin wrote: Patrick Maupin writes: One of my complaints. If you had read the document you would have seen others. I actually have several complaints about YAML, but I tried to write a cogent summary. Yaml sucks, but seems to have gotten some traction regardless. Therefore the Python

Re: Method / Functions - What are the differences?

2010-03-03 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
John Posner a écrit : On 3/3/2010 5:56 AM, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: Eike Welk a écrit : John Posner wrote: I've updated the text at this location: > http://cl1p.net/bruno_0301.rst/ I think this is a very useful writeup! It would be perfect with a little bit of introduction that says: 1. -

Re: A "scopeguard" for Python

2010-03-03 Thread Alf P. Steinbach
* Mike Kent: What's the compelling use case for this vs. a simple try/finally? if you thought about it you would mean a simple "try/else". "finally" is always executed. which is incorrect for cleanup by the way, that's one advantage: a "with Cleanup" is difficult to get wrong, while a "try"

Re: Queue peek?

2010-03-03 Thread mk
Veloz wrote: Unless I missed where you guys were going, I think we got off the main point. The main question at hand was this: what's the best way (heck, any way) to implement a sort of "peek" whereby a number of processes can write results to some common "object" and some other process can "pee

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

2010-03-03 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:42:00 + MRAB wrote: > Gregory Ewing wrote: > Mk14 from Science of Cambridge, a kit with hex keypad and 7-segment > display, which I had to solder together, and also make my own power > supply. I had the extra RAM and the I/O chip, so that's 256B (including > the memory u

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

2010-03-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:30:36 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > I definitely remember that old MS-DOS programs would treat Ctrl-Z as an > EOF marker when it was read from a text file and would terminate a text > file with a Ctrl-Z when writing one. I believe that Windows (at least up to Windows XP) st

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

2010-03-03 Thread Alf P. Steinbach
* Steven D'Aprano: On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:30:36 +, Grant Edwards wrote: I definitely remember that old MS-DOS programs would treat Ctrl-Z as an EOF marker when it was read from a text file and would terminate a text file with a Ctrl-Z when writing one. I believe that Windows (at least up

Sort Big File Help

2010-03-03 Thread John Filben
I am new to Python but have used many other (mostly dead) languages in the past.  I want to be able to process *.txt and *.csv files.  I can now read that and then change them as needed – mostly just take a column and do some if-then to create a new variable.  My problem is sorting these files:

Re: Re Interest check in some delicious syntactic sugar for "except:pass"

2010-03-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:47:28 -0500, Oren Elrad wrote: > With that said, let me at least offer a token defense of my position. By > way of motivation, I wrote that email after copying/pasting the > following a few times around a project until I wrote it into def > SilentlyDelete() and its cousin Si

Re: Queue peek?

2010-03-03 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
On Mar 2, 6:18 pm, Raymond Hettinger wrote: > On Mar 2, 8:29 am, Veloz wrote: > > > Hi all > > I'm looking for a queue that I can use with multiprocessing, which has > > a peek method. > > > I've seen some discussion about queue.peek but don't see anything in > > the docs about it. > > > Does pyt

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

2010-03-03 Thread David Robinow
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2010-03-03, Grant Edwards wrote: > I definitely remember that old MS-DOS programs would treat > Ctrl-Z as an EOF marker when it was read from a text file and > would terminate a text file with a Ctrl-Z when writing one. Actually cmd.exe

Re: taking python enterprise level?...

2010-03-03 Thread mk
D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: I keep seeing this statement but nothing to back it up. I have created many apps that run on Python with a PostgreSQL database with a fully normalized schema and I can assure you that database joins were never my problem unless I made a badly constructed query or left off

Re: Method / Functions - What are the differences?

2010-03-03 Thread John Posner
On 3/3/2010 9:58 AM, John Posner wrote: Film at 11, John Done -- see http://wiki.python.org/moin/FromFunctionToMethod -John -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

SOAP 1.2 Python client ?

2010-03-03 Thread BlueBird
Hi, I am looking for a SOAP 1.2 python client. To my surprise, it seems that this does not exist. Does anybody know about this ? The following clients seem to be both unmaintained and still supporting only SOAP 1.1 : - SUDS - zsi - SOAPy cheers, Philippe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/li

Re: Draft PEP on RSON configuration file format

2010-03-03 Thread Steve Howell
On Mar 3, 7:46 am, mk wrote: > Paul Rubin wrote: > > Patrick Maupin writes: > >> One of my complaints.  If you had read the document you would have > >> seen others.  I actually have several complaints about YAML, but I > >> tried to write a cogent summary. > > Yaml sucks, but seems to have gotte

When to lock data items returned by multiprocessing.Manager?

2010-03-03 Thread Veloz
So I'm using a multiprocessing.Manager instance in my main app and asking it to create a dictionary, which I am providing to instances of the application that I'm forking off with Process. The Processes and main app will be reading/writing to the dictionary. It's not clear to me what I have to "l

Eric4 vs Python3.1

2010-03-03 Thread Zhu Sha Zang
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Someone using Eric4 to program with Python3/3.1? What can i do, because he insist to use only Python2.6.4. Att -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECA

Re: Writing an assembler in Python

2010-03-03 Thread member thudfoo
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote: >> In article , >> Giorgos Tzampanakis   wrote: >> >>> I'm implementing a CPU that will run on an FPGA. I want to have a >>> (dead) simple assembler that will generate the machine code for >>> me. I want to use Python for that. Are there any li

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

2010-03-03 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:05:54 + (UTC) Grant Edwards wrote: > > It was actually an improvement over CP/M's file > > system. CP/M didn't have hierarchical directories > > Neither did the original MS-DOS filesystem. I think that it always had a hierarchical file system although I am not sure abou

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread John Nagle
Ben Finney wrote: Olof Bjarnason writes: Hi everybody! The "Where is CPAN for Python?" question keeps popping up, with answers ranging from "There is no CPAN for Python" and "We already have CPAN for Python" (confusing). Caused in no small measure by the fact that Perl people mean at least

Re: A "scopeguard" for Python

2010-03-03 Thread Robert Kern
On 2010-03-03 09:39 AM, Mike Kent wrote: What's the compelling use case for this vs. a simple try/finally? original_dir = os.getcwd() try: os.chdir(somewhere) # Do other stuff finally: os.chdir(original_dir) # Do other cleanup A custom-written contex

Re: Method / Functions - What are the differences?

2010-03-03 Thread John Posner
On 3/3/2010 10:48 AM, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: I spotted this: http://www.python.org/doc/faq/programming/#what-is-a-method http://www.python.org/doc/faq/general/#why-must-self-be-used-explicitly-in-method-definitions-and-calls Our text is probably a bit too long for a direct inclusion in t

Re: Method / Functions - What are the differences?

2010-03-03 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
John Posner a écrit : On 3/3/2010 9:58 AM, John Posner wrote: Film at 11, John Done -- see http://wiki.python.org/moin/FromFunctionToMethod Done and well done !-) Thanks again for the good job John. PS : Do you think it could be possible to add link to this page from the relevant FAQ ite

Re: A "scopeguard" for Python

2010-03-03 Thread Robert Kern
On 2010-03-03 09:56 AM, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: * Mike Kent: What's the compelling use case for this vs. a simple try/finally? if you thought about it you would mean a simple "try/else". "finally" is always executed. which is incorrect for cleanup Eh? Failed execution doesn't require cleanup

using subprocess.Popen env parameter

2010-03-03 Thread enda man
Hi, I want to use the env parameter to subprocess.Popen to pass in a path to a location the process needs to run, I do have a env variable already called MS_VC_PATH and I want to add to it, not set up more in the PATH variable. / ms_vc_path=os.environ['MS_VC_PATH'] cl_path = ms_vc_path + '\VC

Installing Scrapy on Mac OS X 10.6

2010-03-03 Thread Sky Larking
Has anyone successfully installed Scrapy ( http://scrapy.org ) on a Mac OS X machine running 10.6.x? The Documentaion says Mac OS X ships an libxml2 version too old to be used by Scrapy...But doesn't say which version of OS X.. I am wondering if the version of libxml2 is also not compatible.. --

Re: A "scopeguard" for Python

2010-03-03 Thread Alf P. Steinbach
* Robert Kern: On 2010-03-03 09:39 AM, Mike Kent wrote: What's the compelling use case for this vs. a simple try/finally? original_dir = os.getcwd() try: os.chdir(somewhere) # Do other stuff finally: os.chdir(original_dir) # Do other cleanup A custo

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

2010-03-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-03-03, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:05:54 + (UTC) > Grant Edwards wrote: >> > It was actually an improvement over CP/M's file >> > system. CP/M didn't have hierarchical directories >> >> Neither did the original MS-DOS filesystem. > > I think that it always had a h

Re: A "scopeguard" for Python

2010-03-03 Thread Alf P. Steinbach
* Robert Kern: On 2010-03-03 09:56 AM, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: * Mike Kent: What's the compelling use case for this vs. a simple try/finally? if you thought about it you would mean a simple "try/else". "finally" is always executed. which is incorrect for cleanup Eh? Failed execution doesn't

NoSQL Movement?

2010-03-03 Thread Xah Lee
recently i wrote a blog article on The NoSQL Movement at http://xahlee.org/comp/nosql.html i'd like to post it somewhere public to solicit opinions, but in the 20 min or so, i couldn't find a proper newsgroup, nor private list that my somewhat anti-NoSQL Movement article is fitting. So, i thought

Re: Multiprocessing problem

2010-03-03 Thread larudwer
Hello Matt I think the problem is here: for n in xrange(10): outqueue.put(str(n))<-- fill the queue with 10 elements try: r = inqueue.get_nowait() <-- queue is still empty because processes need some time to start r

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Re: case do problem

2010-03-03 Thread Tracubik
Il Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:39:54 +0100, Peter Otten ha scritto: > Tracubik wrote: > >> hi, i've to convert from Pascal this code: > > program loop; > > function generic_condition: boolean; > begin >generic_condition := random > 0.7 > end; > > procedure loop; > var >iterations, count, m: in

Pylint Argument number differs from overridden method

2010-03-03 Thread Wanderer
Pylint W0221 gives the warning Argument number differs from overridden method. Why is this a problem? I'm overriding the method to add additional functionality. This def GetRays(self, angle, pt, lmbda = 0.6): """ """ angle, x, y, Rays, Power = self.ARefract(angle, pt[

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