Re: Possibly better loop construct, also labels+goto important and on the fly compiler idea.

2013-10-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:45 PM, rusi wrote: > Yes... that page is longer and more confusing than necessary. > 1. The double-posting bit is unnecessary -- not been happening after the > 'new' GG. > 2. The missing attributions problem is new and needs to be added > 3. The main message of that pag

Re: Possibly better loop construct, also labels+goto important and on the fly compiler idea.

2013-10-26 Thread Peter Cacioppi
Rusi said : "Please do! If I were in charge I would say "Patches welcome!" Well, I don't really know what the GG best practice ought to be here. What I am doing now (manually copying whatever I need to quote to give some context) seems to be tolerable to law enforcement (I guess). But I'm mini

Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii

2013-10-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:11:55 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > >> Compared to Baudot, both ASCII and EBCDIC were probably considered >> wondrous. > > Wonderous, indeed. Why would anybody ever need more than one case of > the alphabet? It's almost as absurd a

Removing python django projects

2013-10-26 Thread Gary Roach
Hi In the process of trying to learn python, django, mysql and virtualenvwrapper, I have created two projects and a mess. How can I strip everything from a Debian, Wheezy, linux system. The files are all over the place. Much of the information in this area is for Mac or Windoz systems that do

Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii

2013-10-26 Thread Tim Chase
On 2013-10-26 21:54, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Tim Chase wrote: >> I'd be just as happy if Python provided a "sloppy string compare" >> that ignored case, diacritical marks, and the like. > > The problem with putting fuzzy matching in the core language is > that there is no general agree

Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii

2013-10-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:11:55 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: > >> In article , >> Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >> >>> Compared to Baudot, both ASCII and EBCDIC were probably considered >>> wondrous. >> >> Wonderous, indeed. Why would anybody ever ne

Function for the path of the script?

2013-10-26 Thread Peter Cacioppi
Am I the only one who finds this function super useful? def _code_file() : return os.path.abspath(inspect.getsourcefile(_code_file)) I've got one in every script. It's the only one I have to copy around. For my workflow ... so handy. I've got os.path.dirname aliased to dn, so its dn(_code_

Re: Cookie aint retrieving when visiting happens from a backlink.

2013-10-26 Thread Piet van Oostrum
Piet van Oostrum writes: > Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος writes: > >> There is no set of cookie returned back when visitor comes from a referer. >> >> Isn't this strange? >> No matter if you visit a webpage as a direct hit or via a referer the >> cookie on the visitor's browser should have been present. >>

Re: Function for the path of the script?

2013-10-26 Thread Skip Montanaro
Strange. I almost never want to know the location of the file that's executing, and when I do, I just reference the __file__ module level attribute. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Function for the path of the script?

2013-10-26 Thread Gary Herron
On 10/26/2013 07:23 PM, Peter Cacioppi wrote: Am I the only one who finds this function super useful? def _code_file() : return os.path.abspath(inspect.getsourcefile(_code_file)) I've got one in every script. It's the only one I have to copy around. For my workflow ... so handy. I've go

Re: Function for the path of the script?

2013-10-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Gary Herron wrote: > Huh? In what kind of a workflow are you running a python file without > knowing *what* file you are runnung? It's very common to want to know what directory you're in - it's a good way to find data files. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/m

Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii

2013-10-26 Thread Nobody
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 20:41:58 -0500, Tim Chase wrote: > I'd be just as happy if Python provided a "sloppy string compare" > that ignored case, diacritical marks, and the like. Simply ignoring diactrics won't get you very far. Most languages which use diactrics have standard conversions, e.g. ö ->

Using the nntplib module to count Google Groups users

2013-10-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
There's been a bit of a discussion about how prevalent Google Groups users are in this forum. This is a good opportunity to use one of Python's standard library modules to scan through the comp.lang.python newsgroup and find out. So here's some code to do so: import nntplib import sys s = nntp

Re: Function for the path of the script?

2013-10-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 19:23:43 -0700, Peter Cacioppi wrote: > Am I the only one who finds this function super useful? > > def _code_file() : > return os.path.abspath(inspect.getsourcefile(_code_file)) > > > I've got one in every script. It's the only one I have to copy around. > For my workfl

Re: Printing a drop down menu for a specific field.

2013-10-26 Thread rurpy
On 10/26/2013 06:11 PM, Nick the Gr33k wrote: > Στις 27/10/2013 2:52 πμ, ο/η Nick the Gr33k έγραψε: >> Ah foun it had to change in you code this line: >> key = host, city, useros, browser, ref >> >> to this line: >> >> key = host, city, useros, browser >> >> so 'ref' would

Re: Function for the path of the script?

2013-10-26 Thread Ben Finney
Peter Cacioppi writes: > Am I the only one who finds this function super useful? > > def _code_file() : > return os.path.abspath(inspect.getsourcefile(_code_file)) I've used ‘os.path.dirname(os.path.abspath(__file__))’ to find the directory containing the current file, in the past. But that

How to find where data files are installed for my Python program (was: Function for the path of the script?)

2013-10-26 Thread Ben Finney
Chris Angelico writes: > It's very common to want to know what directory you're in - it's a > good way to find data files. That's a naive way to do it (though it's often good enough, for a program only used on one system). For programs intending to be used across many systems, the data files of

Re: array/list of sockets

2013-10-26 Thread rurpy
On 10/26/2013 05:17 PM, theelder...@gmail.com wrote: > I apologize but I do not understand what you mean by "lack of > context." I have taken Chris' words into consideration, for my > previous post was supposed to be my last (I just had to say thank > you). This is my first google groups post, so I

Re: Don't use default Google Group client (was re:....)

2013-10-26 Thread rurpy
On 10/26/2013 11:24 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 08:05:27 -0700, rurpy wrote: >> On 10/25/2013 08:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > [...] >> However, looking now, I see you pointed out that Peter originally >> cross-posted his two messages to four groups: > > I think you are conf

Re: Using the nntplib module to count Google Groups users

2013-10-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > If anyone wants to modify the script to determine the ratio of posters, > rather than posts, using GG, be my guest. I'd be interested in the > answer, but not interested enough to actually do the work myself. And if anyone does, do please

Re: Don't use default Google Group client (was re:....)

2013-10-26 Thread rurpy
On 10/26/2013 09:38 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 26/10/2013 15:58, ru...@yahoo.com wrote: >> That's odd, because in >>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/FFAe5sJ7kQ4/GmDtHitY50QJ >> I responded to a direct question from you about problems >> with Thunderbird. If you mean instead

Re: Don't use default Google Group client (was re:....)

2013-10-26 Thread rurpy
On 10/26/2013 07:25 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 11:15 PM, rusi wrote: >> tl;dr I think Mark's scoldings in this regard will work if they come not >> just from him but from any and every one. They are likely to have a larger >> subscription if you would agree to change: "

Re: Don't use default Google Group client (was re:....)

2013-10-26 Thread rurpy
On 10/26/2013 04:15 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:05 AM, wrote: >> The large number of posts here from GG would suggest >> that the readership there is substantial, and the decline in >> "web-1.0" tools (usenet, mailing lists, etc) is additional >> evidence that the number

Re: Possibly better loop construct, also labels+goto important and on the fly compiler idea.

2013-10-26 Thread rurpy
On 10/26/2013 07:45 PM, rusi wrote: > On Sunday, October 27, 2013 2:07:53 AM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote: >> Rusi said: >> >> "Users of GG are requested to read and follow these instructions >> https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython " >> >> Seriously, it's not exactly clear what prot

Re: How to find where data files are installed for my Python program (was: Function for the path of the script?)

2013-10-26 Thread rurpy
On 10/26/2013 10:28 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: > >> It's very common to want to know what directory you're in - it's a >> good way to find data files. > > That's a naive way to do it (though it's often good enough, for a > program only used on one system). > > For programs i

Re: How to find where data files are installed for my Python program (was: Function for the path of the script?)

2013-10-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: > >> It's very common to want to know what directory you're in - it's a >> good way to find data files. > > That's a naive way to do it (though it's often good enough, for a > program only used on one system). I never sa

Re: Using the nntplib module to count Google Groups users

2013-10-26 Thread Zero Piraeus
: On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 03:35:40PM +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: > > If anyone wants to modify the script to determine the ratio of posters, > > rather than posts, using GG, be my guest. > > And if anyone does, do please post the resul

Re: Cookie aint retrieving when visiting happens from a backlink.

2013-10-26 Thread Nick the Gr33k
Στις 27/10/2013 4:24 πμ, ο/η Piet van Oostrum έγραψε: Piet van Oostrum writes: Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος writes: There is no set of cookie returned back when visitor comes from a referer. Isn't this strange? No matter if you visit a webpage as a direct hit or via a referer the cookie on the visito

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