Re: [Python-mode] replacing python.el

2009-02-02 Thread Beverley Eyre
ote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:03 AM, Beverley Eyre wrote: Also, if I can make a suggestion, Barry, I think it would be a good idea to ask Dave, or rms, or someone at GNU, to remove the derogatory comments about python-mode.el that are gratuitously inclu

Re: [Python-mode] replacing python.el

2009-02-02 Thread Beverley Eyre
Legally, at this point I don't know the legal status of every bit of code in python-mode.el. Technically, any 'merge' depends on how we define the term. For me, the answer is yes, since I'm looking at this project as sort of an optimization exercise in both features and algorithms. On the leve

Re: [Python-mode] replacing python.el

2009-02-01 Thread Beverley Eyre
Barry Wrote: I don't know what more we can do and it seems like python-mode.el will never be included in Emacs. Oh well. I don't really see that as a tragedy, Barry. When I'm writing a new paper (in LaTeX, of course) and I want the latest version of IEEEtran.cls I go to the IEEE. Most of

Re: [Python-mode] replacing python.el

2009-02-01 Thread Beverley Eyre
On 02/01/2009 07:37 PM, Chong Yidong wrote: Beverley Eyre writes: From my understanding, no one suggesting cutting and pasting your code. Dave's objection, if I understand it correctly, is precisely the cutting and pasting of his code: this all originated when I compl

Re: [Python-mode] FSF assignment policy

2009-02-01 Thread Beverley Eyre
On 02/01/2009 06:37 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Andreas Roehler writes: > IMO assignment policy contradicts the spirit of free software. Please, Andreas, drop this thread. You are not going to change anyone's mind. Here's why: > Copyright is an important issue now, taken very seriou

Re: [Python-mode] FSF assignment policy

2009-02-01 Thread Beverley Eyre
Andreas wrote: IMO assignment policy contradicts the spirit of free software. It shows very unpleasant damages in mind already. Copyright is an important issue now, taken very seriously. Before code was exchanged freely, as Richard told nicely the very beginnings of the movement. Meanwhile we ca

Re: [Python-mode] replacing python.el

2009-02-01 Thread Beverley Eyre
ols understood by computer compilers and/or interpreters for the purpose of causing, directing, or changing the behavior of computers). Oi vey. Bev On 02/01/2009 12:56 PM, Dave Love wrote: Beverley Eyre writes: Don't forget that there was a peck of code that Dave Love took from

Re: [Python-mode] replacing python.el

2009-01-31 Thread Beverley Eyre
On 01/31/2009 11:00 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: Richard M Stallman wrote: Since Andreas Röhler is unwilling to sign legal papers for his code in python.el, we cannot use it in Emacs. Would anyone like to implement for python-mode.el whatever nice features python.el may have? Barry, could you

Re: [Python-mode] replacing python.el

2009-01-31 Thread Beverley Eyre
On 01/31/2009 10:31 PM, Richard M Stallman wrote: Since Andreas Röhler is unwilling to sign legal papers for his code in python.el, we cannot use it in Emacs. Would anyone like to implement for python-mode.el whatever nice features python.el may have? Barry, could you make a TODO list? I

Re: [Python-mode] agenda

2009-01-20 Thread Beverley Eyre
LOL. I haven't even looked at 3.0 yet. I have no idea what would be involved, Andreas. Are there any changes that would cause massive alterations in the way a person using it would want it to look and feel in emacs? Well, after spending 15 minutes reading about the changes made in 'Py3k' I

Re: [Python-mode] merging python-mode.el and python.el

2009-01-18 Thread Beverley Eyre
t issues were standing in the way of a handful of programmers trying to get together to improve some code which they use all the time? AFAIK, Dave, that's all that's going on here, just some geeks trying to write a better tool. At the top of my own wish list for this project is your

Re: [Python-mode] merging

2009-01-12 Thread Beverley Eyre
eta28) "fuki" (+CVS-20070806) [Lucid] (i386-suse-linux, Mule) of Sun Sep 23 2007 on verdi GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i586-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.0) of 2007-11-24 on dede Andreas Röhler Beverley Eyre wrote: Hi Andreas, Well, you could be right, no doubt. But, I've st

Re: [Python-mode] merging

2009-01-07 Thread Beverley Eyre
ev Barry Warsaw wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 1, 2009, at 9:56 PM, Beverley Eyre wrote: I'm writing because I am interested in helping merge python.el with python-mode.el and your website suggested that I contact you. I'm happy that there is so

[Python-mode] merging

2009-01-06 Thread Beverley Eyre
Hi, I'm writing because I am interested in helping merge python.el with python-mode.el and your website suggested that I contact you. I'm happy that there is someone on Earth besides me who uses emacs to edit python code and wants a better mode. - Bev