[Pythonmac-SIG] ical.py loose in the wild

2006-02-12 Thread skip
My little iCal event/todo manipulator is loose and available from my Python Bits page: http://orca.mojam.com/~skip/python/ It allows you to add or print iCal events and todos from the command line. You can also feed appropriately formatted email messages to it and turn them into todos or even

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-12 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 12, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > The attached patch replaces the script in Mac/OSX/Dist by a python > script that builds a "batteries included" universal binary. The > attached background.jpg should be placed in Mac/OSX/Dist/resources > (and hopefully someone donates a n

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

2006-02-12 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 12, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Bill Janssen wrote: >>> It's not really a good idea, and it certainly has near zero chance >>> of happening -- ever. Asking Apple to move their Python >>> interpreter is dead in the water. >> >> I sure hope so. /usr/bin/python has its uses. > > I wish someone would e

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

2006-02-12 Thread Bill Janssen
> > It's not really a good idea, and it certainly has near zero chance > > of happening -- ever. Asking Apple to move their Python > > interpreter is dead in the water. > > I sure hope so. /usr/bin/python has its uses. I wish someone would explain to me what /usr/bin/python can do that /usr/

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] New Page, first proposal

2006-02-12 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 12-feb-2006, at 20:50, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Feb 12, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Bill Janssen wrote: I understand that there is a version of IDLE.app already in the 2.4.1 installer. Yes. The given setup.py only creates an IDLE.app for the vendor Python 2.3 that ships with OS X. It's just a

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

2006-02-12 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 12-feb-2006, at 20:38, Bill Janssen wrote: The system version is installed in /usr/bin. Or do you mean we should only support some future version where Apple doesn't place python in /usr/bin (which I hope doesn't happen)? Yes, that was the idea. /usr/libexec/python, or some other director

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

2006-02-12 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 11-feb-2006, at 23:50, Charles Hartman wrote: Not that I want to bundle Tcl/Tk, --especially given the download/install overhead, right? Mostly because my primary platform is 10.4 and I already have installed AquaTclTk on my 10.3 test system. This makes testing the bundled installat

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

2006-02-12 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 12-feb-2006, at 20:48, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Feb 12, 2006, at 11:38 AM, Bill Janssen wrote: The system version is installed in /usr/bin. Or do you mean we should only support some future version where Apple doesn't place python in /usr/bin (which I hope doesn't happen)? Yes, that was

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] New Page, first proposal

2006-02-12 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 12, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Bill Janssen wrote: > I understand that there is a version of IDLE.app already in the 2.4.1 > installer. Yes. The given setup.py only creates an IDLE.app for the vendor Python 2.3 that ships with OS X. It's just a follow-up to an earlier conversation in the th

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

2006-02-12 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 12, 2006, at 11:38 AM, Bill Janssen wrote: >> The system version is installed in /usr/bin. Or do you mean we should >> only support some future version where Apple doesn't place python in >> /usr/bin (which I hope doesn't happen)? > > Yes, that was the idea. /usr/libexec/python, or some o

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] New Page, first proposal

2006-02-12 Thread Bill Janssen
I understand that there is a version of IDLE.app already in the 2.4.1 installer. Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

2006-02-12 Thread Bill Janssen
> The system version is installed in /usr/bin. Or do you mean we should > only support some future version where Apple doesn't place python in > /usr/bin (which I hope doesn't happen)? Yes, that was the idea. /usr/libexec/python, or some other directory unlikely to be on the user's path by defaul

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to fetch iCal todo description?

2006-02-12 Thread Paul Berkowitz
On 2/12/06 11:17 AM, "has" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > iCal's .scriptTerminology file defines a 'description' property for calendar, > event and todo classes, and always has. If they're not showing up on 10.3 it > could be because the definitions themselves are suspect (there's an unfamiliar > 'S

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to fetch iCal todo description?

2006-02-12 Thread has
Paul Berkowitz wrote: >So now you're saying that - in spite of AppleScript not having 'description' >in the iCal 1.5.5 dictionary in Panther - appscript can still get it? Do you >mind explaining how that might be possible, has? I did check 1.5.5 in 10.4, but I know it's not iCal 2.0's dictionary

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] xcode as IDE?

2006-02-12 Thread Bill Janssen
Bob writes: > the custom build+run target is > for some crazy reason stored as a user setting rather than a project > setting. It's also prone to break at any Xcode update because it > needs to read the undocumented Xcode project file format in order to > get the information it needs. And

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

2006-02-12 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 12-feb-2006, at 19:28, Bill Janssen wrote: So you're saying that the pre-installed version could never be really acceptable. In that case, perhaps we only need convince Apple to move /usr/bin/python to some more system-y place that wouldn't usually be on users' paths. We then in the Ma

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] New Page, first proposal

2006-02-12 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 12-feb-2006, at 19:25, Bill Janssen wrote: So it seems that a old Unix-style Python program which reads from stdin (or a file or a tty) and writes to stdout would be difficult to explain to someone who has never used a command line. And there's essentially no way to get Idle started with

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

2006-02-12 Thread Bill Janssen
> > So you're saying that the pre-installed version could never be really > > acceptable. In that case, perhaps we only need convince Apple to move > > /usr/bin/python to some more system-y place that wouldn't usually be > > on users' paths. > > > > We then in the MacPython world take the position

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] New Page, first proposal

2006-02-12 Thread Bill Janssen
> > So it seems that a old Unix-style Python program which reads from > > stdin (or a file or a tty) and writes to stdout would be difficult to > > explain to someone who has never used a command line. And there's > > essentially no way to get Idle started without using a command line. > > If you

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] New Page, first proposal

2006-02-12 Thread Bill Janssen
> Seems like nice little project for someone that does want to push > Apple's python, > build a (tiny) download that contains 'IDLE.app'. And presto, you have > a simple IDE for someone that doesn't want to use the terminal ;-) 10.4 only, of course. Bill ___

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to fetch iCal todo description?

2006-02-12 Thread Paul Berkowitz
Whoa! So now you're saying that - in spite of AppleScript not having 'description' in the iCal 1.5.5 dictionary in Panther - appscript can still get it? Do you mind explaining how that might be possible, has? Note that there are some OS versions and script editors (e.g. Script Debugger 4 in OS 10

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to fetch iCal todo description?

2006-02-12 Thread skip
has> It's definitely there in 10.3 and 10.4, ... ... has>Properties: ... has>description Unicode -- The todo notes. * ... Note when I looked (OSX 10.3.9, iCal 1.5.5). I ran out and bought Tiger last night. It's there now... Thanks

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to fetch iCal todo description?

2006-02-12 Thread has
skip wrote: >I'm stuck trying to figure out how to get the notes for a todo. If I create >a todo via iCal and add a note to it, I don't see any property of the todo >instance that contains that note. The HTMLDictionary output doesn't list >"description" or "note" as one of the properties of a to

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] xcode as IDE?

2006-02-12 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 12-feb-2006, at 4:39, I. Vinogradov wrote: Hello All, while on the topic of IDEs, would it be possible to somehow adapt Xcode to the task? It has Python keyword highlight, and PyObjC is one of the possible types of documents. Xcode isn't a very useful python environment right now. It i