Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] simple help?

2006-03-07 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 8-mrt-2006, at 6:11, Samuel M. Smith wrote: >> >>> I use PYTHONPATH to add my own python development directories so >>> that >>> modules I create myself or don't want to install in the default: >>> /library/frameworks/python.framework/versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/ >>> site- >>> packages/ >> >

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] simple help?

2006-03-07 Thread Samuel M. Smith
> >> I use PYTHONPATH to add my own python development directories so that >> modules I create myself or don't want to install in the default: >> /library/frameworks/python.framework/versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site- >> packages/ > > The time machine strikes again :-). You can also install your own

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Unix-amateur question

2006-03-07 Thread Charles Hartman
Many thanks to all who have enlightened me on this! Little by little . . . Charles ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Unix-amateur question

2006-03-07 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 7, 2006, at 9:10 PM, Robert Kern wrote: > In this particular case, IPython executes > > $EDITOR temp_file > > and waits for the process to exit. open starts the application and > exits > immediately, so IPython thinks the user has finished editing the > file. As Ed > Leafe mentioned,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Unix-amateur question

2006-03-07 Thread Robert Kern
W. R. Wing wrote: > At 8:05 PM -0500 3/7/06, Charles Hartman wrote: > >>(Sorry! How simple can they get? But I don't know of a better place >>to ask -- does anyone?) >> >>How do I execute a Mac application from the Terminal command line? > > Use the open command - as in: > > $open /Applications

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pythonmac-SIG Digest, Vol 35, Issue 17

2006-03-07 Thread Daniel Lord
I agree with the main sentiments here. In addition, it depends not just on the volume being reasonable (a subjective word most of us intuitively understand), but also upon the quality of the firm and legitimacy of the offer. I personally find it interesting to see Pixar using Python and more intere

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Unix-amateur question

2006-03-07 Thread W. R. Wing
At 8:05 PM -0500 3/7/06, Charles Hartman wrote: >(Sorry! How simple can they get? But I don't know of a better place >to ask -- does anyone?) > >How do I execute a Mac application from the Terminal command line? > Use the open command - as in: $open /Applications/GoogleEarth.app

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Unix-amateur question

2006-03-07 Thread Scott Frankel
It's also possible to launch the executable directly by typing this is a terminal window: /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari For applications that want to talk back to you by printing info in the shell window, this can be very useful. To avoid having to type & retype t

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Unix-amateur question

2006-03-07 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 7, 2006, at 8:05 PM, Charles Hartman wrote: > How do I execute a Mac application from the Terminal command line? For most apps, simply type 'open ', including any necessary pathing. Keep in mind that Cocoa apps are actually bundles, which means that the file name usually has .a

[Pythonmac-SIG] Unix-amateur question

2006-03-07 Thread Charles Hartman
(Sorry! How simple can they get? But I don't know of a better place to ask -- does anyone?) How do I execute a Mac application from the Terminal command line? Specifically, I'm trying to specify BBEdit in the EDITOR environment variable which is consulted by IPython. EDITOR= what? Not / Appl

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] wx.ART_NEW, 'module' object has no attribute 'ART_NEW'

2006-03-07 Thread Rob J Goedman
Chris, Thanks. Kevin's suggestion works fine and I prefer not to edit individual files. I have noticed that changing the default app refuses to pick up the new PythonLauncher 0.1 for some reason, even if you tell it in 'Get Info' to change it for all .py and .pyw files. Weird. Rob On Ma

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Job postings - allow or not?

2006-03-07 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 7, 2006, at 4:32 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > I agree. Unless there'd be a lot of job postings I don't mind. If they were real jobs, listed by real companies, then I don't mind. What I would object to would be recruiters and HR people using the list as a resumé-gathering device

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Job postings - allow or not?

2006-03-07 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Mar 7, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > On 7-mrt-2006, at 22:23, Kent Quirk wrote: > >> I think the occasional Python-related job posting is Just Fine. >> I'd be >> bugged if there were too many of them, but I wouldn't kick them to >> another list unless and until there were so m

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Job postings - allow or not?

2006-03-07 Thread Dethe Elza
I'm OK with job postings on the list. Its interesting to watch Python and OS X taking off. --Dethe ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Job postings - allow or not?

2006-03-07 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 7-mrt-2006, at 22:23, Kent Quirk wrote: > I think the occasional Python-related job posting is Just Fine. I'd be > bugged if there were too many of them, but I wouldn't kick them to > another list unless and until there were so many that they formed a > measurable fraction of the list traffic.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Job postings - allow or not?

2006-03-07 Thread Kent Quirk
I think the occasional Python-related job posting is Just Fine. I'd be bugged if there were too many of them, but I wouldn't kick them to another list unless and until there were so many that they formed a measurable fraction of the list traffic. At which point I'd rejoice at Python's success.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Job postings - allow or not?

2006-03-07 Thread Charles Hartman
Quick reaction: As a list-member with no possible personal use for job postings here, I say, Fine. Interesting to see. If there get to be a lot, they could be broken out into a sublist perhaps. And if they look bogus, we get to get together & pelt the senders with eggs. (Courtesy of cheeses

[Pythonmac-SIG] Job postings - allow or not?

2006-03-07 Thread Jack Jansen
Folks, I've just let a job posting through to the list, after looking at it for a long time and unsure whether or not we want these. If you have a strong opinion (or a weak opinion, or anything resembling an opinion:-) on the matter: please let me know, then I'll use the collective feedback

[Pythonmac-SIG] Software Development Engineer in Test Position Available @ Pixar!

2006-03-07 Thread Elizabeth Palmore
We are seeking an experienced QA Engineer with a passion for quality to participate in the software quality assurance efforts for our proprietary in house toolset. This position requires close collaboration with the engineering staff to define, develop, execute, and automate API level test p

[Pythonmac-SIG] a bit for the FAQ on IPython

2006-03-07 Thread Charles Hartman
(I don't know where this goes. I've phrased it for Terminal beginners -- now *there's* a phrase.) IPython is a replacement for the default Python interpreter. It includes better history and tab-completion features, provides more elaborate ways of inspecting objects

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] universal binary installer, take 1

2006-03-07 Thread Ivan Vinogradov
On 7-Mar-06, at 1:54 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >>> File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4//lib/ python2.4/distutils/command/build_ext.py", line 442, in build_extension sources = self.swig_sources(sources, ext) TypeError: swig_sources() takes exac

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] universal binary installer, take 1

2006-03-07 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 7-mrt-2006, at 19:06, Ivan Vinogradov wrote: > Follow-up. (Yes, most answers were staring me in the face. I blame > the cold medicine.) > >> >>>File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4//lib/ >>> python2.4/distutils/command/build_ext.py", line 442, in >>> build_extension >>>

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] simple help?

2006-03-07 Thread Charles Hartman
It turns out there's a rather helpful page at http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~tobis/pylab.html which (since I'm not using matplotlib) I might never have found, but which is referred to in the manual for IPython. Some of this stuff could be gathered together for the wiki . . . I'll look at doing

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] universal binary installer, take 1

2006-03-07 Thread Ivan Vinogradov
Follow-up. (Yes, most answers were staring me in the face. I blame the cold medicine.) > >>File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4//lib/ >> python2.4/distutils/command/build_ext.py", line 442, in >> build_extension >> sources = self.swig_sources(sources, ext) >> TypeE

[Pythonmac-SIG] re Icon discussion

2006-03-07 Thread Daniel Lord
(deleted thread as it was getting too long) About this icon discussion, why don't we use a solution that maintains, reinforces, and capitalizes on the overall identity of cross-platform Python while distinguishing the OS X Mac-Python port by just taking the new Blue-Yellow Python logo and 'a

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] wx.ART_NEW, 'module' object has no attribute 'ART_NEW'

2006-03-07 Thread Christopher Barker
> On Mar 7, 2006, at 8:10 AM, Kevin Ollivier wrote: >> I suspect what is happening is that Python Launcher is using the >> system Python 2.3 installation instead of the Python 2.4 one you >> installed. Do a Get Info on the demo.pyw file and see if it says >> PythonLauncher (2.3.5) as the def

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] simple help?

2006-03-07 Thread Christopher Barker
Charles Hartman wrote: > I think that part of what confuses a non-Unix person like me is the > distinction PATH / (executable programs and scripts) vs. PYTHONPATH / > modules. (This comes up with IPython because embedding its interpreter > in another program requires importing a module IPShellEm

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] universal binary installer, take 1

2006-03-07 Thread Ivan Vinogradov
On 7-Mar-06, at 11:24 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > Ivan, > > First off, thanks for your feedback. Mutual well-being :) > ... > > I don't use swig myself, but I do no this is not a part of the code I > have touched yet. I seem to recall that setuptools contains a > patch to > workaround a s

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] simple help?

2006-03-07 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 7-mrt-2006, at 17:49, Samuel M. Smith wrote: > I use PYTHONPATH to add my own python development directories so that > modules I create myself or don't want to install in the default: > /library/frameworks/python.framework/versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site- > packages/ The time machine strikes

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] simple help?

2006-03-07 Thread Samuel M. Smith
I use PYTHONPATH to add my own python development directories so that modules I create myself or don't want to install in the default: /library/frameworks/python.framework/versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site- packages/ Here is I how set mine up in .bashrc PYTHONPATH=~/Data/Code/python:~/Data/Adept/C

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] wx.ART_NEW, 'module' object has no attribute 'ART_NEW'

2006-03-07 Thread Rob J Goedman
Thanks Kevin, That does the trick! Thanks again. Rob On Mar 7, 2006, at 8:10 AM, Kevin Ollivier wrote: > Hi Rob, > > On Mar 7, 2006, at 7:51 AM, Rob J Goedman wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm new to Python. For a biometrix application I am investigating >> python or java (right >> now its in VB). >>

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] universal binary installer, take 1

2006-03-07 Thread Ronald Oussoren
Ivan, First off, thanks for your feedback. On 7-mrt-2006, at 16:15, Ivan Vinogradov wrote: >> I've placed a DMG with an installer for a universal build of >> 2.4.2. This is an initial release of this installer, there are >> probably issues with it. >> ... > > Guidance requested. > > 1) Does th

[Pythonmac-SIG] universal binary installer, take 1

2006-03-07 Thread Ivan Vinogradov
> I've placed a DMG with an installer for a universal build of > 2.4.2. This is an initial release of this installer, there are > probably issues with it. > ... Guidance requested. 1) Does this installation still require TigerPython24Fix to be applied? Hmm, the TigerPython24Fix-r2.mpkg refu

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] wx.ART_NEW, 'module' object has no attribute 'ART_NEW'

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Ollivier
Hi Rob, On Mar 7, 2006, at 7:51 AM, Rob J Goedman wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to Python. For a biometrix application I am investigating > python or java (right > now its in VB). > > Earlier this morning I installed (on OS 10.4.5) the latest version of > MacPython-OSX-2.4.1, > the Mac fix (TigerPytho

[Pythonmac-SIG] wx.ART_NEW, 'module' object has no attribute 'ART_NEW'

2006-03-07 Thread Rob J Goedman
Hi, I'm new to Python. For a biometrix application I am investigating python or java (right now its in VB). Earlier this morning I installed (on OS 10.4.5) the latest version of MacPython-OSX-2.4.1, the Mac fix (TigerPython24Fix-r2) and wxPython2.6-osx-unicode-2.6.2.1- macosx10.3-py2.4. Mos

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] simple help?

2006-03-07 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 7-mrt-2006, at 15:01, Charles Hartman wrote: > > On Mar 7, 2006, at 2:39 AM, Christopher Barker wrote: > >> Charles Hartman wrote: >>> I'm getting really tired of not understanding this: Can someone >>> point me to some single place that explains the whole path / >>> PATH / PYTHONPATH arrang

[Pythonmac-SIG] 50-un_commentLines.py

2006-03-07 Thread Mike Covill
Does anyone know what happened to or have a copy of 50-un_commentLines.py ('A Python version of the Apple-provided "Un-Comment" script to be Python-aware.') referenced on: http://pythonmac.org/wiki/XcodeIntegration ? When I click on the link I just get the message: "No attachments stored for Xco

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] simple help?

2006-03-07 Thread Charles Hartman
On Mar 7, 2006, at 2:39 AM, Christopher Barker wrote: > Charles Hartman wrote: >> I'm getting really tired of not understanding this: Can someone >> point me to some single place that explains the whole path / >> PATH / PYTHONPATH arrangement for Python? I know there are two >> sorts on t

[Pythonmac-SIG] what is wxMacExecute Bad bundle?

2006-03-07 Thread Stewart Midwinter
hi I'm working on Firedrop2, a blogging client using wax and wxPython. I'm developing on OS X 10.4.4. My problem occurs while starting the app, long before a GUI is created. I import several plugins. The app was running fine earlier, now suddenly it's choking when I try to import the last of