Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-10 Thread has
Hey, > > I notice the MacPython wiki page on python.org > > is showing outdated information - > > might be an idea to redirect it to the new download page or copy over some > > of the new content. > > >> has > >The nifty thing about Wikis is that anyone c

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-10 Thread Bill Janssen
> Hey, > > I notice the MacPython wiki page on python.org > is showing outdated information - > might be an idea to redirect it to the new download page or copy over some of > the new content. > > has The nifty thing about Wikis is that anyone can edit

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-09 Thread has
Hey, I notice the MacPython wiki page on python.org is showing outdated information - might be an idea to redirect it to the new download page or copy over some of the new content. has -- http://freespace.virgin.net/hamish.sanderson/ ___

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-06 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 6-mrt-2006, at 17:39, Brendan Simons wrote: > > --- Ronald Oussoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Monday, March 06, 2006, at 05:07PM, Brendan >> Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> I did some more digging in /system and /developer, >> and >>> found this icon: >> >> http://twototango.blo

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-06 Thread Brendan Simons
--- Ronald Oussoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday, March 06, 2006, at 05:07PM, Brendan > Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I did some more digging in /system and /developer, > and > >found this icon: > >http://twototango.blogs.com/Developer_Applications_JavaTools_AppletLauncher.png >

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-06 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On Monday, March 06, 2006, at 05:07PM, Brendan Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >--- Ronald Oussoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Fine by me, if someone actually creates the icons! >> Brendan Simons has created some icons that look good >> enough, although the launcher icon could be better.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-06 Thread Brendan Simons
--- Ronald Oussoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fine by me, if someone actually creates the icons! > Brendan Simons has created some icons that look good > enough, although the launcher icon could be better. I did some more digging in /system and /developer, and found this icon: http://twotota

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-06 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On Monday, March 06, 2006, at 01:17PM, has <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Donovan Preston wrote: > >>Stop with the 16 ton weight/snakes/apples debate. Just use the new, >>official, python logo > >Absolutely agree, this is a solved problem already. It's not my most favourite >logo design ever eithe

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-06 Thread has
Donovan Preston wrote: >Stop with the 16 ton weight/snakes/apples debate. Just use the new, >official, python logo Absolutely agree, this is a solved problem already. It's not my most favourite logo design ever either (though still better than any others I've seen), but that's irrelevant. Build

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-03 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 3-mrt-2006, at 0:27, Kevin Ollivier wrote: > > Of course, if you do so and say the issue is settled, I'm going to > be more than a little upset because I was asked to look into > generating an icon, I have done so and even found someone who has > already done some initial work on it, and

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-03 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On Friday, March 03, 2006, at 01:11AM, Bill Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Of course, if you do so and say the issue is settled, I'm going to be >> more than a little upset because I was asked to look into generating >> an icon, I have done so and even found someone who has already do

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-02 Thread Bill Janssen
> Of course, if you do so and say the issue is settled, I'm going to be > more than a little upset because I was asked to look into generating > an icon, I have done so and even found someone who has already done > some initial work on it, and I'm going to have to tell this person to > scra

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-02 Thread Kevin Ollivier
Hi Bill, On Mar 2, 2006, at 2:28 PM, Bill Janssen wrote: >> That's just one icon, we need several icons. At least we now have a >> consistent set of icons. An historical looking set of icons, but a >> *set* >> of icons. > > Yes, I comprehend, several different icons for the various > applicatio

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-02 Thread Bill Janssen
> That's just one icon, we need several icons. At least we now have a > consistent set of icons. An historical looking set of icons, but a *set* > of icons. Yes, I comprehend, several different icons for the various applications are needed. The base logo is just a starting place. > > Surely bett

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-02 Thread skip
>> Surely better to act up front! More snakes on the web page! Ronald> But Python isn't named after snakes ;-) ;-) True enough, but I think even Guido has abandoned that argument. Had it been named "Monty Python", "Cleese" or "Cheeseshop" you might have a leg to stand on, but it's just

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-02 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 2-mrt-2006, at 18:55, Bill Janssen wrote: > Ron Oussoren writes: >> The 16 ton icon stays until someone brings a better alternative. > > W. R. Wing writes: >> I LIKE the python squeezing the apple. The 16 ton icon is not only >> amateurish, it is so indirect an "in" joke as to be inscrutable

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-02 Thread Christopher Barker
Donovan Preston wrote: > Stop with the 16 ton weight/snakes/apples debate. Just use the new, > official, python logo, +1 -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer NOAA/OR&R/HAZMAT (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (20

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-02 Thread Kevin Ollivier
Hi Donovan, On Mar 2, 2006, at 10:08 AM, Donovan Preston wrote: > > On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Bill Janssen wrote: > >> Ron Oussoren writes: >>> The 16 ton icon stays until someone brings a better alternative. > > Stop with the 16 ton weight/snakes/apples debate. Just use the new, > official, py

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-02 Thread Paul Berkowitz
On 3/2/06 9:55 AM, "Bill Janssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ron Oussoren writes: >> The 16 ton icon stays until someone brings a better alternative. > > W. R. Wing writes: >> I LIKE the python squeezing the apple. The 16 ton icon is not only >> amateurish, it is so indirect an "in" joke as to

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-02 Thread Donovan Preston
On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Bill Janssen wrote: > Ron Oussoren writes: >> The 16 ton icon stays until someone brings a better alternative. Stop with the 16 ton weight/snakes/apples debate. Just use the new, official, python logo, which is a stylized icon that isn't going to offend anybody, i

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-02 Thread Bill Janssen
Ron Oussoren writes: > The 16 ton icon stays until someone brings a better alternative. W. R. Wing writes: > I LIKE the python squeezing the apple. The 16 ton icon is not only > amateurish, it is so indirect an "in" joke as to be inscrutable to > anyone coming new to the party. I agree with Wi

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-02 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On Thursday, March 02, 2006, at 01:40PM, W. R. Wing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 5:56 PM -0600 3/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Ronald> The page looks fine, but it might be better to remove the icon >> Ronald> or replace it by the current MacPython icon (the 16 ton >> Ronald> we

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-02 Thread W. R. Wing
At 5:56 PM -0600 3/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ronald> The page looks fine, but it might be better to remove the icon > Ronald> or replace it by the current MacPython icon (the 16 ton > Ronald> weight). It's not that I don't like the snake, but some people > Ronald> claim a lif

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-01 Thread skip
Ronald> The page looks fine, but it might be better to remove the icon Ronald> or replace it by the current MacPython icon (the 16 ton Ronald> weight). It's not that I don't like the snake, but some people Ronald> claim a lifelike snake will scare some (potential) users and Ron

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-01 Thread Russell E Owen
At 12:33 PM -0600 2006-02-28, Bob Ippolito wrote: >On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:13 PM, Russell E. Owen wrote: > >>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> Ronald Oussoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>...you will have to make sure that /Library/Frameworks/ >>Python.framework/Versions/2.4/bin >>is at the sta

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-28 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 28-feb-2006, at 20:44, Bob Ippolito wrote: > > On Feb 28, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Russell E Owen wrote: > >> At 12:33 PM -0600 2006-02-28, Bob Ippolito wrote: >>> On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:13 PM, Russell E. Owen wrote: >>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ronald Oussoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-28 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 28, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Russell E Owen wrote: > At 12:33 PM -0600 2006-02-28, Bob Ippolito wrote: >> On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:13 PM, Russell E. Owen wrote: >> >>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >>> Ronald Oussoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> ...you will have to make sure that /Library

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-28 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:13 PM, Russell E. Owen wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ronald Oussoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 28-feb-2006, at 0:04, Keith Ray wrote: > ... >>> Do you need to set up any environment variables to specify that the >>> newer python is to be used instead

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-28 Thread Russell E. Owen
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ronald Oussoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 28-feb-2006, at 0:04, Keith Ray wrote: ... > > Do you need to set up any environment variables to specify that the > > newer python is to be used instead of the old one? (if so, how do you > > set that up?) > > Yes,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-27 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 28-feb-2006, at 0:04, Keith Ray wrote: > Once you install 2.4.1, does everything python-related just > automatically start working with it, or do you need to re-install > packages like appscript, PyFIT, and so on that have installed > themselves off of > /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.frame

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-27 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 27-feb-2006, at 22:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> Guido has just announced (at his PyCon keynote) that the new web >>> site >>> (see beta.python.org) is going live a week from tomorrow (or Sunday, >>> March 5), and has requested help migrating the content. > > Bill> I see that the co

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-27 Thread Keith Ray
Once you install 2.4.1, does everything python-related just automatically start working with it, or do you need to re-install packages like appscript, PyFIT, and so on that have installed themselves off of /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packges/... ? (W

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-27 Thread Bill Janssen
I meant the "main" downloads page, which still pointed to Jack Jansen's installer for 2.3 (under the section for 2.4.2). I just removed that pointer. Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/py

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-27 Thread skip
>> Guido has just announced (at his PyCon keynote) that the new web site >> (see beta.python.org) is going live a week from tomorrow (or Sunday, >> March 5), and has requested help migrating the content. Bill> I see that the content on the "downloads" page is different on the

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-27 Thread Bill Janssen
> Guido has just announced (at his PyCon keynote) that the new web site > (see beta.python.org) is going live a week from tomorrow (or Sunday, > March 5), and has requested help migrating the content. I see that the content on the "downloads" page is different on the beta site, and wrong w.r.t. Ma

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-26 Thread Bob Ippolito
The content on the site is definitely correct. The same disk image is linked to for both Mac OS X 10.3 and Mac OS X 10.4, but 10.3 users need Tk and 10.4 users need a patch, so they have separate sets of instructions. -bob On Feb 25, 2006, at 10:19 PM, Keith Ray wrote: > the readme that c

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-25 Thread Keith Ray
the readme that comes with the downloaded disk image from this URL: http://python.org/ftp/python/2.4.1/MacPython-OSX-2.4.1-1.dmg says "This package will install MacPython 2.4.1 for Mac OS X 10.3." but the link is supposed to be the installer for 10.4 according to ... "On Mac OS X 10.4 (Tig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-25 Thread Bill Janssen
> Hopefully someone can handle this before the new site goes live. (If > I can help, let me know...) Sounds like Skip has a plan to do it. I'll keep an eye on it, too, and make sure it happens. Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-25 Thread skip
Russell> I just checked and of course the "old" Macintosh content is Russell> present on the beta site (as well as an unfortunate item on the Russell> main download page indicating that only 2.3 is available for Russell> download on Mac OS X). Yeah, I plan to take care of that as

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-25 Thread Russell Finn
On 2/22/06, Bill Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, the new downloads page is now in place on python.org, at > http://www.python.org/download/download_mac.html. > > Thanks to Skip for moving the bits! Congratulations all around... Guido has just announced (at his PyCon keynote) that the new

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-23 Thread Bill Janssen
> One suggestion: have users install Tcl/Tk 8.4.12 or at least 8.4.11 > rather than 8.4.10. 8.4.11 is, in my opinion, the first really solid > version of Aqua Tcl/Tk -- it fixed two bugs that were driving me nuts -- > and 8.4.12 has been working fine for me. > > Here's a link to 8.4.12: >

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-23 Thread Russell E. Owen
In article <06Feb22.195357pst."58633"@synergy1.parc.xerox.com>, Bill Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, the new downloads page is now in place on python.org, at > http://www.python.org/download/download_mac.html. > > Thanks to Skip for moving the bits! Thanks for doing this. One suggesti

[Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-22 Thread Bill Janssen
OK, the new downloads page is now in place on python.org, at http://www.python.org/download/download_mac.html. Thanks to Skip for moving the bits! Bill > > I was wondering if following the instructions on this page > > http://bill.janssen.org/mac/new-macpython-page.html > > Clearly past time to