On 18-apr-2006, at 23:48, Christopher Barker wrote:
Ronald Oussoren wrote:
On 13-apr-2006, at 18:47, Zachary Pincus wrote:
Also, a related query: Is there somewhere in the Python Framework
structure that is appropriate for placing dynamic libraries that
Python would link to?
I don't see
Ronald Oussoren wrote:
On 13-apr-2006, at 18:47, Zachary Pincus wrote:
Also, a related query: Is there somewhere in the Python Framework
structure that is appropriate for placing dynamic libraries that
Python would link to?
I don't see what this would buy us. It is possible to do this,
I could make some nasty remarks about emacs and you could then
strike back with remarks about vi, but lets not go there :-)
Thanks for reminding me of vi.
As I understand it (I'm afraid I've never seen the point of knowing
much about vi :-) the model vi uses is quite different -- lean and
I never
need Python to have readline capability.
Yeah you do, you probably just don't realize that you're using it.
No, I really don't. The only time I ever interact with the Python
REPL is in a GNU Emacs shell buffer (or, rarely, an Emacs pdb buffer),
which does the dance for me. In the
Bill Janssen wrote:
Just curious...
Is there really a need for the readline library? On Mac, I always run
Python shells in either (1) Terminal, or (2) xterm, or (3) an Emacs
shell buffer. All of them have readline capability built in. I never
need Python to have readline capability.
On Friday, April 14, 2006, at 03:42AM, Bill Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just curious...
Is there really a need for the readline library? On Mac, I always run
Python shells in either (1) Terminal, or (2) xterm, or (3) an Emacs
shell buffer. All of them have readline capability built in.
On Thursday, April 13, 2006, at 11:53PM, Zachary Pincus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
So... I have found that IPython exposes a bug in GNU readline 5.1,
sadly enough. This bug causes segfaults when the up-arrow key is
used under certain situations. Ugh. Fortunately, the extant
readline
Terminal and xterm don't have readline capability, the shell (bash)
does. But that is of no use when you're in the python interactive
shell. Then having readline support in python is very handy.
Right you are, Ronald. Thanks for the correction. I never use them
bare; I always run Emacs in
On Friday, April 14, 2006, at 12:00PM, Bill Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terminal and xterm don't have readline capability, the shell (bash)
does. But that is of no use when you're in the python interactive
shell. Then having readline support in python is very handy.
Right you are,
Just for fun, what's the point of the execve? Just to choose the
right Python executable?
Never mind, I found it on Bob's blog. It's to get around the
requirement to have an app bundle if you want to draw on the screen,
apparently.
Bill
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On 12-apr-2006, at 23:19, Zachary Pincus wrote:
This is for Bob Ippolito -
No it isn't, Bob didn't build the 2.4.3 release ;-)
What version of readline comes with the Universal MacPython 2.4.3
release? And is it statically-linked, or is there a readline dylib
somewhere in the python
On 13-apr-2006, at 8:33, Bill Janssen wrote:
Just for fun, what's the point of the execve? Just to choose the
right Python executable?
Never mind, I found it on Bob's blog. It's to get around the
requirement to have an app bundle if you want to draw on the screen,
apparently.
That's
Just wanted to report that patching readline 5.1 and recompiling
python from source did fix the original problem I had with IPython.
Cheers,
Mike
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Just for fun, what's the point of the execve? Just to choose the
right Python executable?
Never mind, I found it on Bob's blog. It's to get around the
requirement to have an app bundle if you want to draw on the screen,
apparently.
That's right.
Note that this functionality won't be
This is for Bob Ippolito -
No it isn't, Bob didn't build the 2.4.3 release ;-)
Sorry sorry! Thanks for making that build, by the way.
What version of readline comes with the Universal MacPython 2.4.3
release? And is it statically-linked, or is there a readline dylib
somewhere in the
On 13-apr-2006, at 18:47, Zachary Pincus wrote:
This is for Bob Ippolito -
No it isn't, Bob didn't build the 2.4.3 release ;-)
Sorry sorry! Thanks for making that build, by the way.
What version of readline comes with the Universal MacPython 2.4.3
release? And is it statically-linked,
On Apr 13, 2006, at 4:19 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
Which patch? Please provide a link to that patch, I won't go hunting
for it.
Current readline 5.1 patches are at:
ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/pub/bash/readline-5.1-patches
Cheers,
Mike
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So... I have found that IPython exposes a bug in GNU readline 5.1,
sadly enough. This bug causes segfaults when the up-arrow key is
used under certain situations. Ugh. Fortunately, the extant
readline 5.1 patches solve this issue nicely. Hopefully you'll get
a chance in the near
You can build the readline extension separately from Python without
much fuss. I have a setup.py for it and the extracted source
sitting in my svn:
http://svn.red-bean.com/bob/readline/trunk/
Thanks! I didn't know it was that easy.
Also, thanks everyone for your time while this issue
Just curious...
Is there really a need for the readline library? On Mac, I always run
Python shells in either (1) Terminal, or (2) xterm, or (3) an Emacs
shell buffer. All of them have readline capability built in. I never
need Python to have readline capability. What's the use case here?
On Apr 13, 2006, at 9:41 PM, Bill Janssen wrote:
Just curious...
Is there really a need for the readline library? On Mac, I always run
Python shells in either (1) Terminal, or (2) xterm, or (3) an Emacs
shell buffer. All of them have readline capability built in. I never
need Python to
I'm having an issue using IPython that may be related to readline,
which I am pursuing on the IPython mailing list.
I had my self-built version of readline 5.1 installed in /usr/local/
include, and I patched and reinstalled it, which was one theory for
fixing the problem, but no go.
I'm
This is for Bob Ippolito -
What version of readline comes with the Universal MacPython 2.4.3
release? And is it statically-linked, or is there a readline dylib
somewhere in the python framework?
I ask because Michael Broe reported some problems (see below) with
IPython that I had tracked
On Apr 12, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Zachary Pincus wrote:
This is for Bob Ippolito -
Well it's really for Ronald, I didn't build it. I have no idea.
What version of readline comes with the Universal MacPython 2.4.3
release? And is it statically-linked, or is there a readline dylib
somewhere in
This is for Bob Ippolito -
Well it's really for Ronald, I didn't build it. I have no idea.
Sorry! Hopefully Ronald will let us know what version of readline he
used.
Now, in regards to the GDB issue: can anyone with the latest
developer tools who also has the Universal Python build
On Apr 12, 2006, at 2:40 PM, Zachary Pincus wrote:
This is for Bob Ippolito -
Well it's really for Ronald, I didn't build it. I have no idea.
Sorry! Hopefully Ronald will let us know what version of readline he
used.
Now, in regards to the GDB issue: can anyone with the latest
Now, in regards to the GDB issue: can anyone with the latest
developer tools who also has the Universal Python build installed try
to run python under gdb? (I have a different install of python 2.4.3
that I don't want to nuke by installing the universal build just to
test this; otherwise I
On Apr 12, 2006, at 3:20 PM, Zachary Pincus wrote:
Now, in regards to the GDB issue: can anyone with the latest
developer tools who also has the Universal Python build installed
try
to run python under gdb? (I have a different install of python 2.4.3
that I don't want to nuke by
Well, not to keep this thread going on any more than necessary --
though we do still need to hear from Ronald about what version of
readline was used for the Universal MacPython -- but I have a comment.
I would think that most gdb users already know how to cross an
execve, but maybe I'm
All I'm saying is that it might be a good idea to put a few lines in
the README about the execve deal, and its implications for things
like debugging. Because otherwise it could get pretty frustrating for
some folk pretty fast.
I agree. This seems unnecessarily obscure.
Just for fun,
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