Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: This project needs a stable branch

2007-03-22 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Julian Seward wrote: > On Thursday 22 March 2007 23:27, Paul Brook wrote: > > > Do you mean you're asking me to break up Paul Brook's QOPS tree at > > > https://nowt.dyndns.org and submit it to mainline? I can do this thing, > > > if you really think it would help. > > >

Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: This project needs a stable branch

2007-03-22 Thread Paul Brook
On Thursday 22 March 2007 23:57, Julian Seward wrote: > On Thursday 22 March 2007 23:27, Paul Brook wrote: > > > Do you mean you're asking me to break up Paul Brook's QOPS tree at > > > https://nowt.dyndns.org and submit it to mainline? I can do this > > > thing, if you really think it would help.

Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: This project needs a stable branch

2007-03-22 Thread Julian Seward
On Thursday 22 March 2007 23:27, Paul Brook wrote: > > Do you mean you're asking me to break up Paul Brook's QOPS tree at > > https://nowt.dyndns.org and submit it to mainline? I can do this thing, > > if you really think it would help. > > If you implement all the missing bits in the process it'l

Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: This project needs a stable branch

2007-03-22 Thread Rob Landley
On Thursday 22 March 2007 7:29 pm, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > > Do you mean you're asking me to break up Paul Brook's QOPS tree at > > https://nowt.dyndns.org and submit it to mainline? I can do this thing, if > > you really think it would help. Seems a bit roundabout to submit Paul > > Brook's w

Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: This project needs a stable branch

2007-03-22 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Rob Landley wrote: > On Thursday 22 March 2007 7:00 pm, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Rob Landley wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday 20 March 2007 6:19 pm, Julian Seward wrote: > > > > Limited effort is always a problem, granted. > > > > > > > > So here's a broader que

Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: This project needs a stable branch

2007-03-22 Thread Paul Brook
> Do you mean you're asking me to break up Paul Brook's QOPS tree at > https://nowt.dyndns.org and submit it to mainline? I can do this thing, if > you really think it would help. If you implement all the missing bits in the process it'll help ;-) Paul _

Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: This project needs a stable branch

2007-03-22 Thread Rob Landley
On Thursday 22 March 2007 7:00 pm, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Rob Landley wrote: > > > On Tuesday 20 March 2007 6:19 pm, Julian Seward wrote: > > > Limited effort is always a problem, granted. > > > > > > So here's a broader question, which I'm surprised nobody has

Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: This project needs a stable branch

2007-03-22 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Rob Landley wrote: > On Tuesday 20 March 2007 6:19 pm, Julian Seward wrote: > > Limited effort is always a problem, granted. > > > > So here's a broader question, which I'm surprised nobody has asked > > before (afaik). Think forward to a hypothetical QEMU 1.0 release.

Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: This project needs a stable branch

2007-03-22 Thread Rob Landley
On Tuesday 20 March 2007 6:19 pm, Julian Seward wrote: > Limited effort is always a problem, granted. > > So here's a broader question, which I'm surprised nobody has asked > before (afaik). Think forward to a hypothetical QEMU 1.0 release. > What criteria are required for such a release? *cough

Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: This project needs a stable branch

2007-03-20 Thread Julian Seward
On Thursday 15 March 2007 14:53, Paul Brook wrote: > > Subsequent releases of the branch would contain no functionality > > enhancements, but just bug fixes, with the eventual aim of achieving > > 'it just works' status for any x86/x86_64 guest I try to install/run. > > I know that's a tall order,

Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: This project needs a stable branch

2007-03-15 Thread Avi Kivity
Paul Brook wrote: Whereas I think the single easiest way to increase the user base would be to merge the kvm patches. This is good to hear. I should really have submitted patches to qemu-devel long ago, but have run out of cycles. In addition, I am a little concerned about the kvm user

Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: This project needs a stable branch

2007-03-15 Thread Paul Brook
> Subsequent releases of the branch would contain no functionality > enhancements, but just bug fixes, with the eventual aim of achieving > 'it just works' status for any x86/x86_64 guest I try to install/run. > I know that's a tall order, and that 0.9.0 may not be able to supply > that for all gue

Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: This project needs a stable branch

2007-03-15 Thread Julian Seward
On Thursday 15 March 2007 13:48, Anthony Liguori wrote: > I'm not necessarily sure I agree that a stable branch is the best thing > to have (verses aiming for never introducing regressions). Aiming for no regressions is a worthy aim, but I believe unachieveable in a project of any size. For sure

Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: This project needs a stable branch

2007-03-15 Thread Anthony Liguori
I'm not necessarily sure I agree that a stable branch is the best thing to have (verses aiming for never introducing regressions). I do agree that a bug tracker would be terribly useful for tracking regressions. Bug trackers quickly get out of hand though unless someone spends a lot of time k

[Qemu-devel] RFC: This project needs a stable branch

2007-03-15 Thread Julian Seward
I am a great fan of QEMU, and have used it more or less continuously for the past 2+ years. Over that time I've installed and operated various Linux and Windows guests with varying degrees of success. The recently released 0.9.0 seems a big step forward in the stability/usability department, whi