Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server and the Grants programme

2020-06-09 Thread Luigi Pirelli
I'm not a backend guy nor a qgis server expert, but because years ago involved in finding solution to grow style incompatibility among geoserver and qgis via sld (before in Boundless end to nothing because there were any tech solution... or I'm too tech limiteated to imagine a solution) later addin

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server and the Grants programme

2020-06-09 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi Jonathan, You keep repeating yourself. You started the exact same discussion a year ago. You have a valid point, of course, I don't argue that. But if you think about small organizations that do not have a lot of personal (or financial) resources, it would be a lot of burden to invest twi

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server and the Grants programme

2020-06-09 Thread Raymond Nijssen
And imagine that Mapserver 1.0, GeoServer 1.0 and QGIS Server 1.0 had all been released at the same date. What would these deployment numbers have been like now? Regards, Raymond On 09-06-2020 01:18, Nyall Dawson wrote: On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 at 09:12, Tim Sutton wrote: Hi Nice, thoughtfu

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server and the Grants programme

2020-06-09 Thread Alessandro Pasotti
Thank you Jonathan for raising the discussion, I think this should be a good opportunity to focus on how we can gain a bigger "market share" and restart investing on the server with both time and funds. Full disclaimer: I'm a QGIS server developer. It would be probably useful to start a discussio

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server and the Grants programme

2020-06-09 Thread Jeremy Palmer
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:25 PM Richard Duivenvoorde wrote: > On 6/9/20 1:18 AM, Nyall Dawson wrote: > > Something else to consider is whether technologies like WMS are > > ultimately just "dead end" technologies now, > > Definitely not agreeing here :-) > > > and possibly we'd be > > better off f

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server and the Grants programme

2020-06-09 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi Alessandro, Good idea - I would be happy to join such a meeting. In our case (talking for my employer), it is mainly performance, reliability, scalability and maintenance where we would like to see improvements. A cache that can be shared between instances would be great to have. And perhap

[QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server and the Grants programme

2020-06-09 Thread Maaza Mekuria
which projects is of course > their own prerogative. > > > > (Disclosure: I have no horse in this race; I don't run or administer any > mapping servers, but I have done GeoServer in the past.) > > > > > > > > _

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server and the Grants programme

2020-06-09 Thread Jonathan Moules
Hi Andreas, (& All), A fair point, but I believe this is an important point and this year I do have data to back up my point; in fact the grant program is what motivated me to finally get around to doing this analysis. It seems from the replies that while there are a few differentiators, the

[QGIS-Developer] Plugin [1143] PostGIS Sampling Tool approval notification.

2020-06-09 Thread noreply
Plugin PostGIS Sampling Tool approval by zimbogisgeek. The plugin version "[1143] PostGIS Sampling Tool 1.5.1" is now approved Link: http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/postgis_sampling_tool/ ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org Lis

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server and the Grants programme

2020-06-09 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi Jonathan, Rest assured - the majority of QGIS funds is already (and has always been going) into bug fixing. Again - both Desktop and server users benefit from that bug fixing. We publish our financial reports here: https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/finance/index.html I

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server and the Grants programme

2020-06-09 Thread Régis Haubourg
Hi, I can't agree more with Andreas. Just note that we have major companies betting on QGIS server for production use and considering switching from Geoserver to QGIS server to get rid of the double administration task burden. They fund progressively what is missing and QGIS.org helps sometimes fo

[QGIS-Developer] Plugin [2084] GéoGrandEst approval notification.

2020-06-09 Thread noreply
Plugin GéoGrandEst approval by zimbogisgeek. The plugin version "[2084] GéoGrandEst 0.9.1" is now approved Link: http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/geograndest/ ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.or

[QGIS-Developer] GeoSeer ogc services data harvesting

2020-06-09 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi Jonathan, Can you share with us how you harvest your information on available public OGC services? You probably have that information published somewhere - so if you could point me towards this URL, it would help. I noticed that all of the services of our province (my employer) can't be fo

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server and the Grants programme

2020-06-09 Thread Nyall Dawson
On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 at 09:18, Nyall Dawson wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 at 09:12, Tim Sutton wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > Nice, thoughtful message below, thanks Jonathon. I wonder what it will take > > to move the needle above 1%? And whether we should try to use our funds to > > make that hap

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server and the Grants programme

2020-06-09 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi Nyall, Thanks for clarifying - I am relieved by your further statements ;-) I don't know a good replacement of ArcGIS Server portal (or whatever that product is called currently). I agree that it would be great if there would be a good replacement for that - and that would need further fund

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server and the Grants programme

2020-06-09 Thread Nyall Dawson
On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 at 20:07, Andreas Neumann wrote: > > Hi Nyall, > > Thanks for clarifying - I am relieved by your further statements ;-) > > I don't know a good replacement of ArcGIS Server portal (or whatever that > product is called currently). I agree that it would be great if there would >

Re: [QGIS-Developer] GeoSeer ogc services data harvesting

2020-06-09 Thread Jonathan Moules
Hi Andreas, Sure, happy to share. There's a little on the About page: https://www.geoseer.net/about.php and then scattered around blog posts (the ones with the "GeoSeer" tag are probably best for that: https://www.geoseer.net/blog/?t=GeoSeer ), but put simply - We scrape a lot of different sour

Re: [QGIS-Developer] GeoSeer ogc services data harvesting

2020-06-09 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi Jonathan, Thanks for sharing this information. I don't know anything better. While looking at some services that I know personally, I also found out that others services are listed twice, because a machine might have a DNS alias. That is also something to consider - perhaps sort out machine

[QGIS-Developer] webp for qgis server ?

2020-06-09 Thread Matthias Kuhn
Hi all, At OPENGIS.ch we have recently looked into different raster formats. The results can be read here: https://www.opengis.ch/2020/06/09/offline-wms-benchmarking-raster-formats-for-qfield/ Not that surprising, but one of the interesting findings was that webp is very efficient. Low files

Re: [QGIS-Developer] GeoSeer ogc services data harvesting

2020-06-09 Thread Jonathan Moules
Hi Andreas, Interesting. Behind the scenes, GeoSeer one-way hashes the GetCapabilities documents and that hash is used as the document key. Identical GetCapabilities documents therefore get the same key and thus only appear once in the final index. But one single character different in the en

Re: [QGIS-Developer] webp for qgis server ?

2020-06-09 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi Marco, I agree. WebP would be interesting. It could potentially replace both png and jpeg - if encoding and decoding is fast and if filesize can compete. The good thing of WebP compared with JPEG is that it supports transparency. According to your brief study, it seems to score well regarding

Re: [QGIS-Developer] GeoSeer ogc services data harvesting

2020-06-09 Thread Andreas Neumann
On 2020-06-09 13:46, Jonathan Moules wrote: Hi Andreas, Interesting. Behind the scenes, GeoSeer one-way hashes the GetCapabilities documents and that hash is used as the document key. Identical GetCapabilities documents therefore get the same key and thus only appear once in the final inde

Re: [QGIS-Developer] webp for qgis server ?

2020-06-09 Thread Matthias Kuhn
Hi Andreas, On 6/9/20 1:47 PM, Andreas Neumann wrote: Hi Marco, I agree. WebP would be interesting. It could potentially replace both png and jpeg - if encoding and decoding is fast and if filesize can compete. The good thing of WebP compared with JPEG is that it supports transparency. E

Re: [QGIS-Developer] webp for qgis server ?

2020-06-09 Thread Matthias Kuhn
Thanks for the excellent questions Even Lucie has done the analysis and has all the parameters. She is not in the office these days. Once she is back I hope she can share the parameters and potentially also add a couple of additional rows to the table with improved parameters. Sorry that I c

[QGIS-Developer] plugin update no approved

2020-06-09 Thread Fredrik Lindberg
Hi, I submitted an update of a plugin last friday ([1364] UMEP) but it is still not approved. I dont see any other messages from you. What has happened? best regards, Fredrik ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: h

Re: [QGIS-Developer] webp for qgis server ?

2020-06-09 Thread Even Rouault
Matthias, thanks for the analysis. There are however a few unexpected results. 1) I'd expect gpkg pyramid_JPEG and COG_JPEG to have very similar sizes, even COG_JPEG being potentially slightly smaller. And I'd also expect COG_JPEG to be slighly faster (but with less confidence that my stateme

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server and the Grants programme

2020-06-09 Thread Henrik Larsson
Hi, I believe that a better deployment process for Server on Windows might be one way for little a bigger market share. I think that there are more people than me that uses Desktop today next to the Esri platform that would gladly start to switch over to Server as a wms provider if posible. A

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server and the Grants programme

2020-06-09 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi Henrik, Good idea. Now that Windows server has a Linux subsystem and docker, the easiest thing would be to use docker, I think. That way you would have the exact same setup like on Linux. No more strange Windows problems. It might be one path to use to tackle the windows installation probl

[QGIS-Developer] Plugin [1364] UMEP approval notification.

2020-06-09 Thread noreply
Plugin UMEP approval by zimbogisgeek. The plugin version "[1364] UMEP 3.14" is now approved Link: http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/UMEP/ ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgi

[QGIS-Developer] Plugin [1815] OpenEO approval notification.

2020-06-09 Thread noreply
Plugin OpenEO approval by zimbogisgeek. The plugin version "[1815] OpenEO 0.9 Experimental" is now approved Link: http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/openeo-qgis-plugin-master/ ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https:/

[QGIS-Developer] Plugin [1943] OneAtlas approval notification.

2020-06-09 Thread noreply
Plugin OneAtlas approval by zimbogisgeek. The plugin version "[1943] OneAtlas 1.1.2" is now approved Link: http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/oneatlas-qgis-plugin-1_0_1/ ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists

[QGIS-Developer] Plugin [2086] Open reblock approval notification.

2020-06-09 Thread noreply
Plugin Open reblock approval by zimbogisgeek. The plugin version "[2086] Open reblock 0.1 Experimental" is now approved Link: http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/open_reblock/ ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://

[QGIS-Developer] Plugin [629] Networks approval notification.

2020-06-09 Thread noreply
Plugin Networks approval by zimbogisgeek. The plugin version "[629] Networks 2.4.4" is now approved Link: http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/networks/ ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server and the Grants programme

2020-06-09 Thread Jose Mercedes Venegas Acevedo
Good day I think that being able to publish a project directly through QGIS Server just by mounting the QGis project done on the desktop is just fantastic if those tiny great details of QGIS Server were fixed would definitely take off tremendously Maybe integrating the lizmap plugin into the QGis

[QGIS-Developer] Plugin [1963] Mappia Publisher approval notification.

2020-06-09 Thread noreply
Plugin Mappia Publisher approval by zimbogisgeek. The plugin version "[1963] Mappia Publisher 2.8.0" is now approved Link: http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/mappia_publisher/ ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: https:/

[QGIS-Developer] Make Distance and Angle dialogs dockable?

2020-06-09 Thread Richard Duivenvoorde
Hi, Using the Measuring tools now on a dual screen setup, the angle tool pops up very much out of sight every time. Either the position is not remembered (if I am correct the line measuring tool pops up above my screen always). But would it be an idea to make these dialogs dockable? Then a user c

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Make Distance and Angle dialogs dockable?

2020-06-09 Thread Nyall Dawson
On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 16:21, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote: > > Hi, > > Using the Measuring tools now on a dual screen setup, the angle tool > pops up very much out of sight every time. > Either the position is not remembered (if I am correct the line > measuring tool pops up above my screen always)

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server and the Grants programme

2020-06-09 Thread Alessandro Pasotti
Jonathan, I forgot to ask you: do you have any statistics/guesses about the underlying operating system ? It would also be interesting to know how much "cloud" technology is used (AWS & C.). Cheers On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 10:43 PM Jonathan Moules wrote: > > Hi List, > Some of you may have seen