Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Plastic
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Dilwyn Jones wrote: > > Sad though that, as Tobias said, it seems that Jan has no plans to do any > further work on the 'new' Qubide. > > Dilwyn Jones > If I had a schematic and code, I would be happy to (re)design anything out there. I don't have any production a

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality check and semantics

2011-02-03 Thread Peter Baily
On 03/02/2011 16:48, ql-users-requ...@lists.q-v-d.com wrote: > Peter Baily wrote, on 3/Feb/11 13:11 | Feb3: >> > > > >> > However, we should not be surprised that most >> > people use PCs; after all this exchange of views, news, etc. would not >> > exist unless we were using PCs. > By PCs I take i

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Peter Graf
Hi Geoff, > Thanks for participating in this discussion, Peter. Thank _you_ for your QUANTA work! > You have always been very loyal to Quanta after the help they gave > you over the Q60. Just for the records, the Q60 design and prototypes were all completed and financed by me, without any help.

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Roy Wood
On 03/02/2011 22:43, Dilwyn Jones wrote: - Original Message - From: "Lee Privett" To: Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check This might help though, so Qubide still an option? http://www.amazon.co.uk/IDE-SATA-Bi-Directional-Adapter/dp/B000

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Tony Firshman
On 3 Feb 2011, at 23:25, Stephen wrote: > I'm afraid I'm one of the apathetic subscribers but will put my head above > the parapet to comment > > Having been a Quanta member since close to its inception I am happy to > continue to pay my sub. It's trivial enough to be hardly worth the bothe

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Stephen
I'm afraid I'm one of the apathetic subscribers but will put my head above the parapet to comment Having been a Quanta member since close to its inception I am happy to continue to pay my sub. It's trivial enough to be hardly worth the bother of cancelling the direct debit. However, I start

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Dilwyn Jones
- Original Message - From: "Lee Privett" To: Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check This might help though, so Qubide still an option? http://www.amazon.co.uk/IDE-SATA-Bi-Directional-Adapter/dp/B000YSMBSW Lee Privett At just under £20,

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Lee Privett
This might help though, so Qubide still an option? http://www.amazon.co.uk/IDE-SATA-Bi-Directional-Adapter/dp/B000YSMBSW Lee Privett - Sent from my Laptop running XP but emulating the QL using QPC2 This would be fantastic if possibl

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Tobias Fröschle
Am 03.02.2011 21:09, schrieb Dilwyn Jones: - Original Message - From: "Dilwyn Jones" To: Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check Are the Super Gold Card schematics available along with the CPLD equation file? With this info, designing a

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Dilwyn Jones
In the context of putting my own money where my mouth is, I would be happy to help in any project to rewrite the constitution. I am not a lawyer, but I have had some legal training in the UK plus Works Council training in the Netherlands and have had a lot of experience of constitutions. I onc

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Mark Martin
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Dilwyn Jones wrote: > Oops, failed to spot that some schematics at least are already on his > website (haven't looked at them in detail). > > Also, I didn't stop to think that not many IDE hard disks are > available nowadays, they all seem to be e-SATA etc. So a new

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Geoff Wicks
In the context of putting my own money where my mouth is, I would be happy to help in any project to rewrite the constitution. I am not a lawyer, but I have had some legal training in the UK plus Works Council training in the Netherlands and have had a lot of experience of constitutions. I onc

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Dilwyn Jones
- Original Message - From: "Dilwyn Jones" To: Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check Are the Super Gold Card schematics available along with the CPLD equation file? With this info, designing a replacement using up to date components (ap

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Are the Super Gold Card schematics available along with the CPLD equation file? With this info, designing a replacement using up to date components (apart from the CPU) would be fairly easy and I'd be happy to do it and make it open source. Cheers Malcolm This would be fantastic if possible

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Mark Martin
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Malcolm Lear wrote: > > >> I hate to disappoint some people but the idea of Quanta sponsoring a new >> Gold Card is a non-starter. As I understand it the components of the old >> Gold Cards are no longer available and the development of a new one would be >> a compl

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Robert Heaton
On 3 February 2011 19:29, Malcolm Lear wrote: > > PS, I'd be able to put on an SPI interface as well. This would allow the > Microdrive units to be replaced by SD FLASH slots. > > Malcolm > > That would be awesome!! Rob. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http:

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Malcolm Lear
PS, I'd be able to put on an SPI interface as well. This would allow the Microdrive units to be replaced by SD FLASH slots. Malcolm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Malcolm Lear
I hate to disappoint some people but the idea of Quanta sponsoring a new Gold Card is a non-starter. As I understand it the components of the old Gold Cards are no longer available and the development of a new one would be a complicated and risky matter. Halfway through the last decade some

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: "Rich Mellor" Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:21 AM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check Many thanks for the email and raising these points for discussion. Perhaps you would be so kind as to repeat the original email on the QL

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: "Peter Graf" Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:18 PM To: Subject: [Ql-Users] Reality Check I guess QUANTA members benefit more if my time goes into QL hardware and drivers, than into the other work you mentioned :-) It's absolut

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Geoff Wicks
Many thanks to all the people who have replied although we still need a lot more replies. I particularly like the positive content of many of the replies. Why can't we recreate this sort of enthusiasm right throughout Quanta? After all I did not say I wanted Quanta to close, I said the time

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Dilwyn Jones
who have missed the whole move through Gold Card/Super Gold Card/Q40/Q60 phase and are unable to do anything with with their 128K QLs either. So my question is are there enough QL users out there to warrant additional hardware projects? and if not, what else can the QL be used for in its curren

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Lee Privett
Any new hardware for th QL is always welcome especially if it enables people who have never upgraded to upgrade to something that extends the life of the QL or brings it up to date with current technology in some small way. For those of us that emulate through a variety of OS's, hardware upgrade

Re: [Ql-Users] Extremely rare example of a Sinclair QL with Dongle

2011-02-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On 03/02/2011 17:16, Dilwyn Jones wrote: I'd always understood the order to be FB, PM, AH, JM, JS, MGx; I think I read that in an early edition of QL User. PM was supposedly never released. FB allegedly stood for "Full of Bugs", AH for "Angela's Holiday". Not sure about the others... JM appare

Re: [Ql-Users] Extremely rare example of a Sinclair QL with Dongle

2011-02-03 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I'd always understood the order to be FB, PM, AH, JM, JS, MGx; I think I read that in an early edition of QL User. PM was supposedly never released. FB allegedly stood for "Full of Bugs", AH for "Angela's Holiday". Not sure about the others... JM apparently stood for John Mathieson, one of the

Re: [Ql-Users] Extremely rare example of a Sinclair QL with Dongle

2011-02-03 Thread Billy
On 03/02/2011 16:34, Neil Riley wrote: *died not dids ! "Neil Riley" 03 February 2011 16:32>>> My first QL arrived after many months of waiting... as no doubt did everyone. No dongle as i recall but it dids within a few minutes of switching on, so was promptly retuned. A replacement arrived

Re: [Ql-Users] Extremely rare example of a Sinclair QL with Dongle

2011-02-03 Thread Neil Riley
*died not dids ! >>> "Neil Riley" 03 February 2011 16:32 >>> My first QL arrived after many months of waiting... as no doubt did everyone. No dongle as i recall but it dids within a few minutes of switching on, so was promptly retuned. A replacement arrived a week or two later with AH Roms, It

Re: [Ql-Users] Extremely rare example of a Sinclair QL with Dongle

2011-02-03 Thread Neil Riley
My first QL arrived after many months of waiting... as no doubt did everyone. No dongle as i recall but it dids within a few minutes of switching on, so was promptly retuned. A replacement arrived a week or two later with AH Roms, It at least was reliable for the time I owned it. Seeing as I or

Re: [Ql-Users] Extremely rare example of a Sinclair QL with Dongle

2011-02-03 Thread gdgqler
On 3 Feb 2011, at 15:05, Ade Vickers wrote: > > I'd always understood the order to be FB, PM, AH, JM, JS, MGx; I think I > read that in an early edition of QL User. PM was supposedly never released. > FB allegedly stood for "Full of Bugs", AH for "Angela's Holiday". Not sure > about the others..

Re: [Ql-Users] Extremely rare example of a Sinclair QL with Dongle

2011-02-03 Thread gdgqler
On 3 Feb 2011, at 13:08, Rich Mellor wrote: > Turbo and Q-liberator would have fun compiling the AT command if it was > written on the FB ROM ! Since anything is possible Turbo could be adapted to cover this . . . BUT only if there is sufficient real demand. George ___

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality check

2011-02-03 Thread gdgqler
On 3 Feb 2011, at 14:24, Tony Firshman wrote: > Norman Dunbar wrote, on 3/Feb/11 14:19 | Feb3: >>> By PCs I take it you mean machines running Windows. >>> I access this group but don't use a PC. >> Likewise, given the definition above. But not the same as you. >> >>> Guess how. Forbidden fruit

Re: [Ql-Users] Extremely rare example of a Sinclair QL with Dongle

2011-02-03 Thread Ade Vickers
Rich Mellor wrote: > > On 03/02/2011 12:49, Dilwyn Jones wrote: > >> It was followed by FB which may never have left the > factory - we know > >> that Psion had to alter their boot programs to cope with the > >> difference in the AT command in the FB ROM compared to > later QL ROMs > >> (th

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality check

2011-02-03 Thread Tony Firshman
Norman Dunbar wrote, on 3/Feb/11 14:19 | Feb3: By PCs I take it you mean machines running Windows. I access this group but don't use a PC. Likewise, given the definition above. But not the same as you. Guess how. Forbidden fruit is a clue (8-)# Um, is a "pineapple"? :-) Not a 'pine'

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality check

2011-02-03 Thread Norman Dunbar
> By PCs I take it you mean machines running Windows. > I access this group but don't use a PC. Likewise, given the definition above. But not the same as you. > Guess how. Forbidden fruit is a clue (8-)# Um, is a "pineapple"? :-) Cheers, Norman. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Lt

Re: [Ql-Users] Extremely rare example of a Sinclair QL with Dongle

2011-02-03 Thread Malcolm Lear
It was followed by FB which may never have left the factory - we know that Psion had to alter their boot programs to cope with the difference in the AT command in the FB ROM compared to later QL ROMs (they didn't bother checking for the earlier PM ROM). No-one else had to make this change

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality check

2011-02-03 Thread Tony Firshman
Peter Baily wrote, on 3/Feb/11 13:11 | Feb3: However, we should not be surprised that most people use PCs; after all this exchange of views, news, etc. would not exist unless we were using PCs. By PCs I take it you mean machines running Windows. I access this group but don't use a PC. Guess

Re: [Ql-Users] Extremely rare example of a Sinclair QL with Dongle

2011-02-03 Thread Tony Firshman
Rich Mellor wrote, on 3/Feb/11 12:21 | Feb3: We have now managed to resurrect an early example of the Sinclair QL home computer as it was first unveiled to the expectant media, complete with the slow v1 Psion software and the infamous Dongle (or Kludge) which contained one third of the QL's opera

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality check

2011-02-03 Thread Peter Baily
> Geoff wicks wrote: > Last weekend several people castigated me for suggesting that Quanta should > be wound up. > > Now it's time to see if you are prepared to put your money where your mouths > are. > > I am not asking you to to do anything drastic like joining the committee, but > somethin

Re: [Ql-Users] Extremely rare example of a Sinclair QL with Dongle

2011-02-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On 03/02/2011 12:49, Dilwyn Jones wrote: It was followed by FB which may never have left the factory - we know that Psion had to alter their boot programs to cope with the difference in the AT command in the FB ROM compared to later QL ROMs (they didn't bother checking for the earlier PM ROM).

Re: [Ql-Users] Extremely rare example of a Sinclair QL with Dongle

2011-02-03 Thread Dilwyn Jones
It was followed by FB which may never have left the factory - we know that Psion had to alter their boot programs to cope with the difference in the AT command in the FB ROM compared to later QL ROMs (they didn't bother checking for the earlier PM ROM). No-one else had to make this change or e

[Ql-Users] Extremely rare example of a Sinclair QL with Dongle

2011-02-03 Thread Rich Mellor
We have now managed to resurrect an early example of the Sinclair QL home computer as it was first unveiled to the expectant media, complete with the slow v1 Psion software and the infamous Dongle (or Kludge) which contained one third of the QL's operating system. In 26 years of being involved

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Now that we finally seem close to new QL hardware, I wonder if it's the right time to ask for another decline in QUANTA activities. I rarely attend an AGM, but I consider to come this year. If I find the time, I would demonstate some of the QL projects I had started but abandoned due to the op

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Peter
Rich Mellor wrote: > However, this year, as I am no longer able to subsidise my business > through full time employment, I am seriously having to look at the > cost of staying overnight in Manchester and with current attendance > levels, wonder whether a 2 day show is justifiable, or whether Quant

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On 03/02/2011 10:33, Dilwyn Jones wrote: The Quanta website should not be too difficult, as it is built around a content management system, so updating the content should be a matter of just editing the text. -- Rich Mellor If only it were that simple! I've used CMS'es in work over the years

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Dilwyn Jones
The Quanta website should not be too difficult, as it is built around a content management system, so updating the content should be a matter of just editing the text. -- Rich Mellor If only it were that simple! I've used CMS'es in work over the years and they generally are, when they work.

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On 02/02/2011 22:25, Lee Privett wrote: Taking what has been said at face value and as a returning member of Quanta and living in the south east I am both excited and saddened by the current state of affairs, my response to each point is as follows: 1: QUANTA MAGAZINE - I would volanteer for e

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On 02/02/2011 23:18, Peter Graf wrote: Hi Geoff, Last weekend several people castigated me for suggesting that Quanta should be wound up. Now it's time to see if you are prepared to put your money where your mouths are. I guess QUANTA members benefit more if my time goes into QL hardware and

Re: [Ql-Users] Reality Check

2011-02-03 Thread peet vanpeebles
--- On Wed, 2/2/11, Geoff Wicks wrote: > From: Geoff Wicks > Subject: [Ql-Users] Reality Check > To: "ql-users" > Date: Wednesday, 2 February, 2011, 20:39 > Last weekend several people > castigated me for suggesting that Quanta should be wound > up. > > > 8: KEYBOARD MEMBRANES > > Not real