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2012-04-25 Thread Malcolm Cadman
you'll find that I'm the Ql'er with one ;) and have been for nearly 2 weeks !! Ner ner Video links coming up guys! John Alexander --- On Mon, 16/4/12, Malcolm Cadman wrote: From: Malcolm Cadman Subject: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Date: Monday,

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2012-04-25 Thread John Alexander
I think you'll find that I'm the Ql'er with one ;) and have been for nearly 2 weeks !! Ner ner Video links coming up guys! John Alexander --- On Mon, 16/4/12, Malcolm Cadman wrote: From: Malcolm Cadman Subject: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com D

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2012-04-23 Thread Tony firshman
national anniversary) >>> >>> -Original-Nachricht- >>> Von: Lee Privett >>> An: ql-us...@q-v-d.com >>> Betreff: Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts >>> Datum: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:27:02 +0200 >>> >>> Google image is very ret

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2012-04-23 Thread Malcolm Lear
n: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Betreff: Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts Datum: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:27:02 +0200 Google image is very retro today ZX Spectrum anyone ___ My Google search shows a St George logo. Bryan

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2012-04-23 Thread Bryan Horstmann
On 23/04/2012 03:15, tobias.froesc...@t-online.de wrote: more specifically: google.co.uk only (They don't seem to consider this an international anniversary) -Original-Nachricht- Von: Lee Privett An: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Betreff: Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts Datum: Mon, 2

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2012-04-23 Thread tobias.froesc...@t-online.de
more specifically: google.co.uk only (They don't seem to consider this an international anniversary) -Original-Nachricht- Von: Lee Privett An: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Betreff: Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts Datum: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:27:02 +0200 Google image is very retro tod

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2012-04-23 Thread Lee Privett
Google image is very retro today ZX Spectrum anyone ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

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2012-04-22 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <4f927160.2090...@dunbar-it.co.uk>, Norman Dunbar writes Hi Norman, Great ... :-) ... we need you to write an "easy-peasy" Guide to Python! I have been experimenting with a rather 'old version' - 2.5.2 - dated at 2008, that I never quite got around to using before the Raspberry Pi

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-22 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <77845c9e-9410-4678-a5d7-ac1476607...@firshman.co.uk>, Tony firshman writes On 18 Apr 2012, at 17:31, Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message <4f8e8d97.7070...@newlan.org>, Bryan Horstmann writes Hi Bryan, Thanks for the link. I believe that everything is covered within functions,

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-22 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <4f92c11b.8080...@dunbar-it.co.uk>, Norman Dunbar writes Hi Bryan, On 21/04/12 10:21, Bryan Horstmann wrote: The only things I know about Python are from the Cheat Sheet I mentioned earlier. But where are the equivalent of all the many other S*BASIC Keywords? Python isn't S*Basi

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2012-04-21 Thread Norman Dunbar
Hi Bryan, On 21/04/12 10:21, Bryan Horstmann wrote: The only things I know about Python are from the Cheat Sheet I mentioned earlier. But where are the equivalent of all the many other S*BASIC Keywords? Python isn't S*Basic, so most of the well known and loved S*Basic commands and keywords etc

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2012-04-21 Thread Norman Dunbar
Hi Derek, Why get the source to Python and produce a specific version for Sbasic. Because we can? I suppose we could, after all, we have C68 for QDOSMSQ why not Python? It would be a separate language though, not something to "compile" S*Basic. I suppose we could produce sPython, which woul

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-21 Thread Bob Spelten
- From: "George Gwilt" To: Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts On 20 Apr 2012, at 21:40, Dilwyn Jones wrote: I always thought it was a pity superBasic demanded line numbers. They were not actually necessary, and if GOTO di

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2012-04-21 Thread Ralf Reköndt
Yes, but always from a loaded SuperBASIC program... ;-) Turbo compiles from the tokenised SuperBASIC program. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

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2012-04-21 Thread George Gwilt
On 21 Apr 2012, at 11:42, Ralf Reköndt wrote: > I think, that wasn't the question. Don't confuse this with QLiberator's > option "Line Numbers". > > As far as I know, QLiberator does not need line numbers, but this is not > possible via the interpreter. It is in fact possible with the QD5 Thin

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-21 Thread Ralf Reköndt
21, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts On 20 Apr 2012, at 21:40, Dilwyn Jones wrote: I always thought it was a pity superBasic demanded line numbers. They were not actually necessary, and if GOTO did not exist, not even used. I think QLiberator at least can

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-21 Thread Derek Stewart
On 21/04/2012 09:35, Norman Dunbar wrote: Morning all, On 20/04/12 21:40, Dilwyn Jones wrote: This all sounds very interesting and possibly a fairly straightforward language for S*BASIC users to learn. I notice there's versions of Python for Windows as well as Linux etc. Anyone know if a Python

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-21 Thread Bryan Horstmann
On 20/04/2012 09:40, Dilwyn Jones wrote: So like all the BASICS, it is interpreted as it is run. Not quite the same. Yes- superBasic runs uncompiled but errors only show when they are encountered. Python (and perl - my preference) compiles first, syntax errors show then and it stops with err

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-21 Thread George Gwilt
On 20 Apr 2012, at 21:40, Dilwyn Jones wrote: >> >> I always thought it was a pity superBasic demanded line numbers. They were >> not actually necessary, >> and if GOTO did not exist, not even used. > I think QLiberator at least can compile without line numbers (never actually > tried that). P

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2012-04-21 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 21/04/12 09:35, Norman Dunbar wrote: Python is pretty nifty in it's ability to coerce variables Oh no! The apostrophe! How did it get there? :-( Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingd

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2012-04-21 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 20/04/12 23:07, Tony firshman wrote: One has a first line for Linux - #!/usr/bin/perl/ - which points to the compiler. It's better to use: #!/usr/bin/env perl because it's cross distro. Linux is standard, but different distro's put things in different locations. So, your file m

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-21 Thread Norman Dunbar
Morning all, On 20/04/12 21:40, Dilwyn Jones wrote: This all sounds very interesting and possibly a fairly straightforward language for S*BASIC users to learn. I notice there's versions of Python for Windows as well as Linux etc. Anyone know if a Python program written on one platform such as Wi

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-20 Thread Tony firshman
On 20 Apr 2012, at 16:40, "Dilwyn Jones" wrote: >>> So like all the BASICS, it is interpreted as it is run. >> Not quite the same. Yes- superBasic runs uncompiled but errors only show >> when they >> are encountered. >> Python (and perl - my preference) compiles first, syntax errors show the

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2012-04-20 Thread Dilwyn Jones
So like all the BASICS, it is interpreted as it is run. Not quite the same. Yes- superBasic runs uncompiled but errors only show when they are encountered. Python (and perl - my preference) compiles first, syntax errors show then and it stops with error display - often wildly confusing if thi

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-20 Thread Tony firshman
On 19 Apr 2012, at 15:10, Malcolm Cadman wrote: > In message <4f8fe256.8070...@newlan.org>, Bryan Horstmann > writes > > Hi Bryan, > > Yes, every computer language has its own way of doing things, hence the > variety. > > Python seems to be in the middle ground, where it has features like

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-20 Thread Malcolm Cadman
h a variable definition termed "SPAM" ... which is an obvious reference to one well known comedic sketch. I guess that this will open up everyone's imagination and humour, too . My RPi arrived yesterday ;) http://youtu.be/6X2P7sVL-wU --- On Tue, 17/4/12, Dilwyn Jones

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-19 Thread Tony firshman
On 18 Apr 2012, at 17:31, Malcolm Cadman wrote: > In message <4f8e8d97.7070...@newlan.org>, Bryan Horstmann > writes > > Hi Bryan, > > Thanks for the link. > > I believe that everything is covered within functions, yet I haven't > programmed enough with Python to see if that is an advanta

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-19 Thread Malcolm Cadman
.be/6X2P7sVL-wU --- On Tue, 17/4/12, Dilwyn Jones wrote: From: Dilwyn Jones Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Date: Tuesday, 17 April, 2012, 18:33 Lee Privett wrote: Someone already has atleast one emulator running on the Pi http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-c

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2012-04-19 Thread Bryan Horstmann
On 19/04/2012 12:03, Miguel Angel Rodriguez Jodar wrote: El 19/04/2012 12:00, Bryan Horstmann escribió: I've had a look at Python too, Malcolm, and found "Python Languages & Syntax Cheat Sheet". Under basic arithmetic it says "i=a%b e.g. 11%3 > 2" I cannot make sense of that. That's the modu

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-19 Thread Lee Privett
ditto On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Tony Firshman wrote: > > > On 19 Apr 2012, at 06:00, Bryan Horstmann wrote: > > > I've had a look at Python too, Malcolm, and found "Python Languages & > Syntax Cheat Sheet". Under basic arithmetic it says "i=a%b e.g. 11%3 > > 2" I cannot make sense o

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-19 Thread Tony Firshman
On 19 Apr 2012, at 06:00, Bryan Horstmann wrote: > I've had a look at Python too, Malcolm, and found "Python Languages & Syntax > Cheat Sheet". Under basic arithmetic it says "i=a%b e.g. 11%3 > 2" I > cannot make sense of that. I'll just hope that we can get an emulator and > stick to

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-19 Thread Miguel Angel Rodriguez Jodar
El 19/04/2012 12:00, Bryan Horstmann escribió: I've had a look at Python too, Malcolm, and found "Python Languages & Syntax Cheat Sheet". Under basic arithmetic it says "i=a%b e.g. 11%3 > 2" I cannot make sense of that. That's the modulus operator, as in C language. The binary operator a%b retu

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-19 Thread Bryan Horstmann
hich is an obvious reference to one well known comedic sketch. I guess that this will open up everyone's imagination and humour, too . My RPi arrived yesterday ;) http://youtu.be/6X2P7sVL-wU --- On Tue, 17/4/12, Dilwyn Jones wrote: From: Dilwyn Jones Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Ras

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-18 Thread Bryan Horstmann
wyn Jones wrote: From: Dilwyn Jones Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Date: Tuesday, 17 April, 2012, 18:33 Lee Privett wrote: Someone already has atleast one emulator running on the Pi http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/simcoupe.jpg Look

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2012-04-18 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 17/04/12 20:33, John Alexander wrote: My RPi arrived yesterday ;) I don't know you personally John, but I think I hate you already! ;-) Have fun with your Pi. Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshi

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2012-04-17 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message , Tony Firshman writes On 16 Apr 2012, at 17:19, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Hi, Reading the Raspberry Pi web site - with some interesting videos - the first production "Pi"'s have been delivered to a School in Leeds, UK. On Monday 16th April 2012. Delivery of early orders is now

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-17 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message , Lee Privett writes Hi Lee, Yes, I guess the fun is starting ... :-) Someone already has atleast one emulator running on the Pi http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/simcoupe.jpg On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Tony Firshman wrote: On 16 Apr 2012, at 1

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2012-04-17 Thread Malcolm Cadman
, too . My RPi arrived yesterday ;) http://youtu.be/6X2P7sVL-wU --- On Tue, 17/4/12, Dilwyn Jones wrote: From: Dilwyn Jones Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Date: Tuesday, 17 April, 2012, 18:33 Lee Privett wrote: Someone already has atl

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-17 Thread John Alexander
My RPi arrived yesterday ;) http://youtu.be/6X2P7sVL-wU --- On Tue, 17/4/12, Dilwyn Jones wrote: From: Dilwyn Jones Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Date: Tuesday, 17 April, 2012, 18:33 Lee Privett wrote: > Someone already has atleast one emulator runn

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2012-04-17 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Lee Privett wrote: Someone already has atleast one emulator running on the Pi http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/simcoupe.jpg Looks good, but a QL emulator would be even better! Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.de

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2012-04-17 Thread Lee Privett
Someone already has atleast one emulator running on the Pi http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/simcoupe.jpg On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Tony Firshman wrote: > > > On 16 Apr 2012, at 17:19, Malcolm Cadman wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Reading the Raspberry Pi web site - wit

Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-16 Thread Tony Firshman
On 16 Apr 2012, at 17:19, Malcolm Cadman wrote: > Hi, > > Reading the Raspberry Pi web site - with some interesting videos - the first > production "Pi"'s have been delivered to a School in Leeds, UK. On Monday > 16th April 2012. > > Delivery of early orders is now expected from Friday 20th

[Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

2012-04-16 Thread Malcolm Cadman
Hi, Reading the Raspberry Pi web site - with some interesting videos - the first production "Pi"'s have been delivered to a School in Leeds, UK. On Monday 16th April 2012. Delivery of early orders is now expected from Friday 20th April 2012. I wonder who will be the 'ql-er' to receive one ..